Sound is about to make me cry!

GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 LifeAkron, PA Icrontian
edited March 2005 in Hardware
Ok upgraded to a DFI Lanparty NF3 and tried to install my m-audio revo 5.1 cant get it to work right. IT comes up with an ! on it in the device manager saying it cannot start. So i try diff pci slot same issue. Do another fresh install of Xp, Same problem, Install a Phillips acoustic edge, Same issue. WTF is going on? BOTH of these cards worked on my last mobo ( Abit KV8- max3 )

Ive tried New sound drivers adn even new chipset drivers and i am lost still

Oh and if i install onboard sound it only gives me REAR speakers not the front or center
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  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited February 2005
    have you dissabled onboard sound when putting in the cards?
  • imported_oldtimerimported_oldtimer Mississauga,ON
    edited February 2005
    It's one or the other.But explain this,Quote:
    Ok upgraded to a DFI Lanparty NF3 and tried to install my m-audio revo 5.1
    Is this a home or office system ? Never heard of either of these.
    What is a DFI ? Is it a PCI sound card ? m-audio,whats that ?
    Speakers are 5.1 not sound cards.I think.
    :drinkup:
  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited February 2005
    DFI is a mobo manufacturer like Asus, MSI etc.... NF3 is NForce 3 chipset on the mobo it's nvidia's mobo chipset as opposed to VIA for example. M-audio is the sound card.
  • imported_oldtimerimported_oldtimer Mississauga,ON
    edited February 2005
    kryyst wrote:
    DFI is a mobo manufacturer like Asus, MSI etc.... NF3 is NForce 3 chipset on the mobo it's nvidia's mobo chipset as opposed to VIA for example. M-audio is the sound card.
    But i was sorta expecting to hear from that other guy.
    A sound problem should not result in the drastic steps he outlines.
    reinstalling Windows. :horn:
    Is this a plug and play quality sound card ?
    M-audio usually refers to onboard sound.
    Is onboard disabled ?
    Where did you get the drivers ?
    ==============
    But i must add kryyst,
    Via is a motherboard chipset not a video card chipset.right or wrong ?
    :drinkup:
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    Sometimes it IS necessary to reinstall windows.
    M-Audio is a brand.
    He HAS disabled on-board. (I've spoken to him about this issue)
    He got the drivers from the manufacturer's website, and he's tried pretty much any driver he can get his hands on.

    VIA makes motherboard chipsets. :)
  • imported_oldtimerimported_oldtimer Mississauga,ON
    edited February 2005
    wrote:
    Of couse sometimes IS.
    But that usually is when i have to upgrade Windows not troubleshoot plug and play hardware.
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    I've had corrupt installs of Windows many times. Only a complete reinstall was able to get me going again. Also, there are a lot of times when a problem is just so bad, that the time and energy to fix it just isn't worth it, and a reinstall is in order.
  • imported_oldtimerimported_oldtimer Mississauga,ON
    edited February 2005
    Cyclonite wrote:
    I've had corrupt installs of Windows many times. Only a complete reinstall was able to get me going again. Also, there are a lot of times when a problem is just so bad, that the time and energy to fix it just isn't worth it, and a reinstall is in order.
    ===================
    Thats the point,i don'nt and would like to see if i can help you not to.
    had corrupt installs of Windows many times.
    isn't worth it, and a reinstall is in order.
    Wouldn't you trust someone to put a stop to this ?
    I have been useing a computer since 1989 with only minor problems.
    Not this crazy confussion.
    :p
  • ZuntarZuntar North Carolina Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    How about issues w/ direct X (audio portion) . I have had direct X FUdge me up several times w/ my OLD sound card (monster sound mx300).
  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited February 2005
    Maybe your mobo is screwed.
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    oldtimer wrote:
    ===================
    Thats the point,i don'nt and would like to see if i can help you not to.
    had corrupt installs of Windows many times.
    isn't worth it, and a reinstall is in order.
    Wouldn't you trust someone to put a stop to this ?
    I have been useing a computer since 1989 with only minor problems.
    Not this crazy confussion.
    :p

    I'd love for someone to put a stop to it. No offense meant in any way, but it's not going to be you I trust, as you had to ask what VIA does. Which is fine, and we're here to help people learn. I have no problem explaining that info. It's just, you don't sound like you have the experience you make yourself out to have with today's computers. :)

    Also, I've been messing with computer since I was 6, and that was in 1990, so I'm not too far behind you. ;) Most of the time I have minor issues, but when I begin to deal with new hardware, beta or alpha drivers, apply new service packs or directx updates, start to OC, etc., that can cause big problems with the OS that only a reinstall can fully repair.
  • NorthstarNorthstar
    edited February 2005
    After you did a fresh install of XP did you download any updates? I recently did a reinstall of XP SP1 and decided to download a bunch of "critical updates" and the first round went fine, but after rebooting the second round of updates it said my computer needed screwed things up so bad I had to go back to and earlier restore point. And I avoided SP2 completely *which may be where my problem lied, but I hear SP2 is crap.*

    I'm assuming you're running DX9c as well?
  • ZuntarZuntar North Carolina Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    Have 2 comps on SP2, not 1 issue. There will always be some people who will have probs with any given update/software.
  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited February 2005
    SP2 won't be the issue. Given that he's tried 2 different sound cards and different pci slots there is either a key driver issue which can only be directx 9 or a hardware issue either something wrong with the mobo or the bios.

    I'm tending to think it's something with the mobo since NF3's have full surround support and he's only getting rear sound off the onboard.

    However to completely eliminate windows as the problem take it out of the loop. Boot up using knoppix or mephis and see what kind of sound you are getting out of it. Sadly that may not be a guaranteed test since there is some chance it may not recognize your sound hardware given it's farily new and the linux kernels may not be up to date but it's definitely worth trying out since every good computer persoon should have a copy of either :)
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    Kryst i am about to go along with what u just said!

    http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6044&highlight=Major+sound+issues

    DFI forums
  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited February 2005
    What can I say I am Gospel :)
  • imported_oldtimerimported_oldtimer Mississauga,ON
    edited February 2005
    Cyclonite wrote:
    I've had corrupt installs of Windows many times. Only a complete reinstall was able to get me going again. Also, there are a lot of times when a problem is just so bad, that the time and energy to fix it just isn't worth it, and a reinstall is in order.
    You might be causing these problems i don't let happen.
    And i didn't ask about Via,I had it with my last pc.
    ==========
    This is asking YOU what i already knew. lol
    Via is a motherboard chipset not a video card chipset.right or wrong ?
    =============
    PC.You need the update via sometimes to fix things.
    So lets get back to sound,DXdiag is a test.
    My old mx300 works fine still.
    Do you want the upgrade patch ? I might still have it.
    :drinkup:
    In 1990 you just got off the milk bottle,I was drinking booze.
    :drinkup:
  • ZuntarZuntar North Carolina Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    Hey oldtimer, please read EVERY post and link BEFORE you respond.
  • AnimalAnimal
    edited February 2005
    oldtimer wrote:
    You might be causing these problems i don't let happen.
    And i didn't ask about Via,I had it with my last pc.
    ==========
    This is asking YOU what i already knew. lol
    Via is a motherboard chipset not a video card chipset.right or wrong ?
    =============
    PC.You need the update via sometimes to fix things.
    So lets get back to sound,DXdiag is a test.
    My old mx300 works fine still.
    Do you want the upgrade patch ? I might still have it.
    :drinkup:
    In 1990 you just got off the milk bottle,I was drinking booze.
    :drinkup:

    were you drunk at the time of writing the post? I find it hard to understand what you mean. Have you had anymore luck gnome???
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    I spoke with him last night. He was praising me, as I had helped someone else out on the DFI forums. It was with jumper settings on the onboard sound. Gnome messed with his, and he now has full 5.1 with his onboard. Unfortunately, his cards still don't work.
  • ZuntarZuntar North Carolina Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    I should have thought of that cuz my mobo is the same way. There are two jumper on the board L & R, you either have sound out the back or sound out the front, not both.
    Me feels stupid now.
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    Yeah. DFI has pretty much the same thing going on. When i got mine, one of the jumpers was in the wrong spot, so I got no sound form my left speaker.
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    yea the onboard 5.1 is working now which makes me happy but still no luck with pci sound cards
  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited February 2005
    is there a jumper that needs to be set to dissable the onboard? Actually why bother I thought the onboard audio on the NF3 boards was full 5.1 and supposed to be very good.
  • ZuntarZuntar North Carolina Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    Mine kicks ass!!
  • imported_oldtimerimported_oldtimer Mississauga,ON
    edited February 2005
    Cyclonite wrote:
    I spoke with him last night. He was praising me, as I had helped someone else out on the DFI forums. It was with jumper settings on the onboard sound. Gnome messed with his, and he now has full 5.1 with his onboard. Unfortunately, his cards still don't work.

    How do you control 2 different sound drivers ? Internal or PCI ?
    How can you decide wich one is active ?
    Isn't that causing a conflict ?
    Isn't one good enough ?
    Too hot for me.
    :rarr:
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    Huh? He's got the on-board sound working. As he stated previously, he's been unable to get a PCI sound card to install and work correctly on the machine. He HAS disabled the on-board sound when he tries, as stated previously. That would remove the conflict. And, yes, one is good enough. But there are different quality sound cards, and he happens to have one that is of higher quality than the on-board sound. He had preferred to use that, but since he couldn't get it working, he's happy with the on-board.
  • imported_oldtimerimported_oldtimer Mississauga,ON
    edited February 2005
    Cyclonite wrote:
    Huh? He's got the on-board sound working. As he stated previously, he's been unable to get a PCI sound card to install and work correctly on the machine. He HAS disabled the on-board sound when he tries, as stated previously. That would remove the conflict. And, yes, one is good enough. But there are different quality sound cards, and he happens to have one that is of higher quality than the on-board sound. He had preferred to use that, but since he couldn't get it working, he's happy with the on-board.
    Well i have onboard and my PCI Audigy 2 works fine,this is just a matter of disableing onboard and not trying PCI till device manager is blank.
    Not trying to override the internal.Video "maybe" Audio "NO"
    But of course you need a Motherboard manual .
    That would
    :help:
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    I just told you... He's done that.
  • imported_oldtimerimported_oldtimer Mississauga,ON
    edited February 2005
    Cyclonite wrote:
    I just told you... He's done that.
    Never replied to ?'s
    This is a joke post.\ and you where sucked in,I wasn't.
    :kaka:
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