Look how lucky I was

TheSmJTheSmJ
edited November 2003 in Hardware
After I removed the Aeroflow from my CPU, to install my new SLK947u, I realized I had installed the HSF backwards on the socket. This means the heatsink wasn't even flush with the core. Take a look for yourself!

I'm shocked that I managed to get 2 Ghz out of it at 54*C under load, let alone w/o burning it up.

Comments

  • leishi85leishi85 Grand Rapids, MI Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    yes u got lucky there, watch it next time.
  • pseudonympseudonym Michigan Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    DEAR GOD. You weren't kidding me. I'm surprised you didn't crack the die when the thing got tightened down with the clip!!
  • seversphereseversphere
    edited November 2003
    that's actually impressive
  • TheSmJTheSmJ
    edited November 2003
    The odd thing is, I recall being very carefull with positioning it.

    I guess the Aeroflow performs much better than I originally thought.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited November 2003
    1. You're lucky you didn't crack the chip.
    2. You're lucky you didn't break the socket.
    3. You're NOT particularly lucky that you didn't burn up the chip. Look at the pic you took- the HS was making contact with the entire chip since the thermal compound was thick enough. There's no reason why it would've burned up. If you hadn't used that much thermal compound though, things may have been different...
  • TheSmJTheSmJ
    edited November 2003
    In all the cases I have read about, I've never heard of a socket breaking from backwards HS installation. Just breaking/burning the core.

    Ironically, after I *correctly* installed the Areoflow to the K7S5A, the board (appears to be) dead.
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    TheSmJ had this to say
    In all the cases I have read about, I've never heard of a socket breaking from backwards HS installation. Just breaking/burning the core.

    Ironically, after I *correctly* installed the Areoflow to the K7S5A, the board (appears to be) dead.

    Doing things right is a bitch isn't it?

    No boot?

    I gotta tell ya...my heart stopped for several minutes yesterday.

    I just got AS5 in teh meail and decided to install it. Since my new wc gear was installed, i though i had some high temps and i blamed my AS3 that is almost 2 years old (never buy a big syringe). I took off the waterblock and the cpu and noticed that the AS3 wasn't touched on teh core!! No AS3 was on the block either!

    That means the block had no contact whatsoever with the cpu and my load was above 45c at default voltages which isn't bad considering that it didn't have any contact.

    Anyway, i cleaned both the core and also polished the block a little and slapped on AS5 (beware, it's thick as grandma and it's a pain to apply) and on with the block. Power on and it dies after exactly 2 seconds. Ok, i thought, maybe i pressed the button to little and tried again. Same thing! Doublebugger i thought, my psu had gone pearshaped.

    Off with the lot again, including the atx and extra connector and made REALLY sure the block was on tight. Now it worked. :confused:

    I ended up with a load of 35c with AS5 and what i believe, a good contact between block and core.....Boy, what an adventure.

    This is my current temps with bios 10 which apparently shows 10c too much.
  • ShortyShorty Manchester, UK Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    @SMJ.. My god you got VERY bloody lucky!

    @Mack.. heehehehe.. Im makin notes my man.. for my watercooling setup :D
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Shorty had this to say
    @SMJ.. My god you got VERY bloody lucky!

    @Mack.. heehehehe.. Im makin notes my man.. for my watercooling setup :D

    You better, Dan. Otherwise i'll be knocking on your door before you know it. :D
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    I am debating betwwen water cooling or a cube case right now. i figure if i get a cube case i can put a NICE wc system in it since i will have plenty of room
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Gnomewizardd had this to say
    I am debating betwwen water cooling or a cube case right now. i figure if i get a cube case i can put a NICE wc system in it since i will have plenty of room

    I agree. I want a cube as well. A good cube can hold 1 or 2 prometeia hardware and a wc rig.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    my arkua sat off center like that ...it's a designed flawed by human perfection!
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Mackanz had this to say
    it's thick as grandma ....

    :wtf: ewwww......
    :hrm:
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Be sure to check out the Instructions for applying AS-5.

    I found it interesting that they recomend rubbing some into the HS and then clean it.
    Tint the bottom of the heatsink in the area where the CPU core will contact it. Put a finger into a plastic bag and thoroughly rub the compound into the base of the heatsink using both clockwise and counter-clockwise circular motion. This will ensure optimum filling of the microscopic valleys in the metal.

    DO NOT use your bare finger to apply or smooth the compound (skin cells, and oils again)

    Note:
    Arctic Silver 5 is much thicker than our earlier silver compounds and it is very difficult to rub it into the base of the heatsink. With it's superior flow characteristics, this step can be skipped when using Arctic Silver 5.

    Re-clean the heatsink surface with a LINT FREE cloth. Do not use any solvent or fluid. You may notice that the base of the heatsink is slightly discolored even after all the compound would seem to have been removed. That is the Arctic Silver thermal compound filling the microscopic valleys.
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    mtgoat had this to say
    Be sure to check out the Instructions for applyinf AS-5.

    I found it interesting that they recomend rubbing some into the HS and then clean it.

    That's actually good. But counterproductive when it's as thick as it is. However, if you follow their instructions point by point, a syringe would only last 1 cpu......wonder why. :/
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    I didn't follow them exactly but improvised and di squirt about 3x the amount I put on my core on the HS and rubbed it in and wippped the excess off. I did yield a drop of 3 degrees C. :)
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Mackanz had this to say
    mtgoat had this to say
    Be sure to check out the Instructions for applyinf AS-5.

    I found it interesting that they recomend rubbing some into the HS and then clean it.

    That's actually good. But counterproductive when it's as thick as it is. However, if you follow their instructions point by point, a syringe would only last 1 cpu......wonder why. :/

    Really? I got some AS5 and followed their instructions and I still have a lot left, I even have the smallest syringe. I even DID rub it into the base which was a real pain in the ass, I had the instructions for some AS3 printed out so that's what I used.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    I just have to say...






































    Noob. :)
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited November 2003
    I just put a healthy coating on the CPU die and then plop the HS on it. No rubbing the base of the HS. No trying to make sure I have a paper-thin coating of thermal paste. Heck, my coatings are probably more like 10 pieces of paper thick. :D
  • seversphereseversphere
    edited November 2003
    strange to see you guys say AS5 is hard to apply. It may be thicker but with the "superior flow characteristics" it applies easily.
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    I meant compared to AS3 off course. AS3 is like oil and AS5 like peanut butter. Better? :D
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited November 2003
    TheSMJ, I've heard of one or two times (not on athlon cpus, mind you- the core generally gives first) where a heatsink was installed wrong, and it put enough tension on the socket to break one or more of the lugs off...
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