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Little hard drive rebels, says you're not my mother to big hard drive.

edited November 2003 in Science & Tech
<b>This HAS to be a joke right???</b>
[blockquote]LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Los Angeles officials have asked that manufacturers, suppliers and contractors stop using the terms "master" and "slave" on computer equipment, saying such terms are unacceptable and offensive. [/blockquote]Read more @ <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/11/26/master.term.reut/index.html&quot; target=_blank>Reuters</a>

<i>Submitted by McBain</i>

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  • ShortyShorty Manchester, UK Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Now you are takin the...
  • edited November 2003
    Assuming it's true, it is a bit too late to go changing the standard names.

    Besides, (E)IDE is being phased out, and will be gone within 5 years.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    It's not a joke :(
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited November 2003
    OMG Master & Slave aren't politically correct and might mean something else in a completely different context? OH NOES! :rolleyes2

    Honestly, don't law makers in LA have something better to do... like deal with MJ and street violence?

    **** this. There's no need to even be going down this road. When I think of a hard disk, I think spinning platters and read heads, not BDSM like these lawmakers think all of us people do. Jesus, these people need to plug the hole in their head, as they are loosing vital hot air.

    Seriously... they should just find the nearest defibrillator and voluntarily zap themselves a dozen times. I'm so sick of idiot politicians and lawmakers sticking their ****ing nose where it doesn't belong. They've been called Master & Slave drives since the beginning of time. Why change now?

    At least when SATA finally replaces IDE, lawmakers can finally protect the innocent children from the hideous "Master" and "Slave" drives that will corrupt their poor minds.

    FFS. :shakehead :shakehead :rolleyes2 :rolleyes2
  • McBainMcBain San Clemente, CA New
    edited November 2003
    Jeez...I didn't think my posting that would get you so riled up.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    I'm extremely pissed at it also..Just not so openly.
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited November 2003
    McBain had this to say
    Jeez...I didn't think my posting that would get you so riled up.

    I've had the a terribly bad day and felt like taking it out on the LA idiots that come up with this legislative bull**** :)

    No slight intended towards you McBain :)
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited November 2003
    One of my instructors told me of a former student of his that got upset with him because he referred to a hard drive as being set to either "master" or "slave." He thought it was ridiculous for her to get upset then, and he did last time I spoke with him (about a year ago) too. I also feel it's ridiculous. So what if it's called "master" and "slave." Some people just look for ways to be offended and honestly I don't see how it offends her.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    The problem is, in today's society it is worse than it was. Back when, the first drive polled's rate was used to set the channel, literally. It DID control the bus rate set. Now it no longer does.

    Kinda like a PCI bus mastering invocation, which does give a bus mastering PCI card more control over the PCI bus than non-busmastering devices. Change unlikely to be enforcable, however as most busses, even the FSB have one device that controls more than others. Computer is NOT an equal peer rights thing, and never could be so designed totally.

    Yes, ludicruous, even if NOT a joke. At a guess, First might replace master, Second slave, but the power trip in this case is built into the hardware as noted above. Changing the words will not change the hardware reality, only ENFORCE it in a sense(this is not about society, this is about political power groups legally manouevering the phraseology with legal manouvers and being totally impotent to change hardware reality).

    John.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited November 2003
    ONLY in California... :rolleyes:

    That's IT! I'm moving to Canada (so MM, Keto, Simguy, etc...MAKE ROOM)... :D
  • ketoketo Occupied. Or is it preoccupied? Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    heh from MM to me is about (hmmm 12-13 hrs drive) 750 miles, from me to Sim is another what, 1800 miles? And we have fewer people than your STATE, just bring a damn parka. And you can park your computer beside a window and get free sub freezing cooling 4-5 months a year 8-))
  • drasnordrasnor Starship Operator Hawthorne, CA Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    The California legislature does not have arbitration priveleges on my system bus, so they can just get their butts off at the next stop. Alternatively, they could all get themselves on the SCSI bus, which does everything differently (much like California) but also efficiently (not at all like California). The California legislature could stand to learn a lesson or two from SCSI, like how to efficiently manage their discussion giving priority to the most important tasks first.

    -drasnor :fold:
  • TemplarTemplar You first.
    edited November 2003
    America is fk'ed :(
  • ketoketo Occupied. Or is it preoccupied? Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    drasnor had this to say
    Alternatively, they could all get themselves on the SCSI bus, which does everything differently (much like California) but also efficiently (not at all like California). The California legislature could stand to learn a lesson or two from SCSI, like how to efficiently manage their discussion giving priority to the most important tasks first.

    -drasnor :fold:

    But then wouldn't all the trailer trash complain about the "scuzzy" reference??
    :crazy:
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    %&^$ THEM!!!!!!!!! THEY NEED TO GET A $@#^(@* LIFE!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I AM SOO PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited November 2003
    Want to e-mail the individual who came up with this bull**** and give him logical reasons to not go through with this?

    E-Mail Joe Sandoval, Division Manager of Purchasing and Contract Services.

    jsandoval@isd.co.la.ca.us

    I've "happily" (grin) passed my words of "advice" along to him.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited November 2003
    Fifteen years ago, when PC (I don't mean Personal Computers) was just beginning to stretch it's oppressive arm over our world I worked with some VAV (Variable Air Volume) AC systems. The vent boxes were all controlled remotely via computer. It was the first computer I ever used on a daily basis. Some were wired directly into the computer, while others merely opened and closed depending on what the box next to them did.

    We had one yahoo who objected to their designation as "Master" & "Slave". After that we had to call them "Main" & "Satellite".

    Thought it was stupid then. Think it's stupid now.
  • GobblesGobbles Ventura California
    edited November 2003
    being about 20 min from LA, its the gods honest truth.

    welcome to the mamby pamby state full of fruits and nuts.. I need to go back to the east coast..

    these people are nuckin futs.

    Gobbles
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited November 2003
    these people are nuckin futs.

    Gobbles, I agree.... I'm about 30 minutes from San Francisco, so...

    (if you're not familiar with CA, SF/Berkely is full of more nut cases per square meter than anywhere else in the state, probably in the country, and quite possibly the entire world)
  • ketoketo Occupied. Or is it preoccupied? Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    do they have sq meters in SF tooo???? thot that was yust us canucks and nords (hi mack) ;)
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Not nuts here in florida just OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    And 99.99999% from Michigan. ;D
  • Josh-Josh- Royal Oak, MI
    edited November 2003
    LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Los Angeles officials have asked that manufacturers, suppliers and contractors stop using the terms "master" and "slave" on computer equipment, saying such terms are unacceptable and offensive.
    P A T H E T I C.... -.-

    Why do people take things to literally? Who cares if it says master in slave?
    -.-
    They should just give up on it.
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    heh, I read that article a few days ago when it was posted on my Clan forums, I laughed, but only cuase it is lame.

    Have people gotten tired of bitching about Bush or maybe they got hurt while desicrating flags and memorials that have nothing to do with anything they complain about.

    I do my best NOW to just try to be cool, this has been going on for like, forever, and I doubt it will ever stop. Much less change anything.
  • ketoketo Occupied. Or is it preoccupied? Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Joe @ overclockers.com has an editorial up today on the subject. I found it to be a great read, had some good laughs. Didn't agree absolutely 100% with everything he said but neither did I take offense, he's almost always fun in his opinion pieces.
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