Russia feels justified in premptive nuke option

the_technocratthe_technocrat IC-MotY1Indy Icrontian
edited January 2008 in Science & Tech

<blockquote>"We are not going to attack anyone, but we believe all our partners in the international community should understand clearly and have no doubts that, in order to protect its and its allies' sovereignty and territorial integrity, Russia will use its armed forces, including nuclear weapons, and it can do it preemptively," Baluyevsky said at a scientific conference in Moscow.</blockquote>
<p>via <a href="http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/politics/28.html?id_issue=11948692">Interfax</a></p&gt;
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Comments

  • Your-Amish-DaddyYour-Amish-Daddy The heart of Texas
    edited January 2008
    Bring it on. I'm dying to see what a MOAB does to Moscow.
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    Your Amish Daddy wrote:
    Bring it on. I'm dying to see what a MOAB does to Moscow.

    I really hope you don't live close to me if that's the case. The Tsar bomb which was detonated long ago had a 30 mile diameter fire ball and it was only half the bomb they were actually testing, much less the extra damage from sheer destructive force on going so God knows how far away you'd have to be to have "survived" a bomb like that. If it hit downtown Houston I'd be vaporized and I don't even live in Houston. I'd bet your house would still be totaled if you lived in Galveston in this case. The Tsar bomb is largest bomb detonated, it was estimated to yield 57 Megatons and the bomb itself was a testbed for 100 Megatons, it could be seen 600+ miles away. I'd bet it could be seen farther if not for the curvature of the Earth.

    So take that knowledge and put it forward to today. The US nuclear program is geared more accurate targeting so not much yield is in play IIRC. But I have no idea how the Russians play this crazy game of Roulette.
  • ThelemechThelemech Victoria Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    It is just like the "good" old days. :(
  • Your-Amish-DaddyYour-Amish-Daddy The heart of Texas
    edited January 2008
    What, am I supposed to live in fear of the Russians when they're our ALLY NOW? I'm not worried about a 100MT nuke, and I bet the government isn't either. I mean sure this isn't something one just turns a blind eye to, but what, they've got maybe 10 of those 100MT's done if any? The US still has 3500+ 10-25MT nukes. If they do something stupid, NORAD is going to bomb moscow back into the stone age, and then throw it into a microwave. I'm still hearing inklings of an under-development Neutrino charge. I'm not gonna swear by that, but I'm pretty sure if it is; By now we're almost done with it.

    Scared of Russia? Not on your life, Bub. So what if they've got first strike capability with a 57MT bomb right this very minute. Let them make the stupid mistake of hitting Texas with it; as in your little scale scenario. That would be their FIRST AND LAST mistake. And before this gets too in-depth, I'm done.
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    Well back then in the "good" old days as I understand it Russia was bluffing most of their abilities. They didn't have many viable options for ICBM's, so we were in reality... "relatively safe"? Not to mention the propaganda machines on both ends wanting everyone to be afraid so you could give the governments more leeway for the things they did, covered up, etc...
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    Your Amish Daddy wrote:
    What, am I supposed to live in fear of the Russians when they're our ALLY NOW? I'm not worried about a 100MT nuke, and I bet the government isn't either. I mean sure this isn't something one just turns a blind eye to, but what, they've got maybe 10 of those 100MT's done if any? The US still has 3500+ 10-25MT nukes. If they do something stupid, NORAD is going to bomb moscow back into the stone age, and then throw it into a microwave. I'm still hearing inklings of an under-development Neutrino charge. I'm not gonna swear by that, but I'm pretty sure if it is; By now we're almost done with it.

    Scared of Russia? Not on your life, Bub. So what if they've got first strike capability with a 57MT bomb right this very minute. Let them make the stupid mistake of hitting Texas with it; as in your little scale scenario. That would be their FIRST AND LAST mistake. And before this gets too in-depth, I'm done.

    Wow arn't you the feisty one... "bub" ;D
  • JokkeJokke Bergen, Norway Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    I have only one thing to say: Russia, please don't bomb America, America, please don't bomb Russia. In fact, nobody bomb each other! It's better that way...
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    I'm pretty sure nobody is bombing anyone. People ought to watch what their fingers type from here on out.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    The long and short of it is that the US and Russia both have enough accurate, nuclear firepower that neither nation would ever launch against the other. Nothing has changed. This 'news' was simply Putin's continuing PR to his own people (and the former Soviet states) to consolidate their respect, be it admiring or fear-based.
  • drasnordrasnor Starship Operator Hawthorne, CA Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    A neutrino bomb wouldn't be so bad. I doubt I'd even notice.

    -drasnor :fold:
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    Until you got neutrinowned. O LAWLZ u c wat I did?
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    Has anybody here heard of mutually assured destruction?

    I would give it a 0.000001% chance of an industrialized country launching a nuclear weapon. The more possible scenario would be an unstable, or rogue government detonating a nuclear weapon and ringing the hells bells. That is what I am most afraid of. Because I'd almost guarantee you that if such a catastrophe happened WWIII would be started and the world would most likely destroy itself.

    Just my $0.02
  • the_technocratthe_technocrat IC-MotY1 Indy Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    I think we all know that nothing's going to happen. The substance of this story is that a country like Russia would come out and make a statement along the lines of 'btw, we're more than ready to throw the first punch. hehe, no srsly. >:| '
  • R4CK3RR4CK3R Oklahoma
    edited January 2008
    Some of you guys are throwing this out of proportion. The Russian's are only saying that they're going to keep nukes in their arsenal. No ones bombing anyone. Those over-sized firecrackers will see about as much action as they have in the past 20 years.
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    I think it is like leo said. It is just the propaganda machine working. I just find it odd why they would come out on the world stage and say this when we all knew it already.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    It's called "Posturing."
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian
    edited January 2008
    MAD peace is the only peace.
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