Embassy

tttooommm10

we still don't know who will lead the alliance and who will keep the embassy. i will happily take the embassy but only 2 - 3 days into the round. as for leading i don't think im up for it and Q or muffin have volunteered.

QCH

I'm sure I can lead since I'm on just about 12 hrs a day but I originally declined and Muffin kind of stumbled into it. I don't mind doing the embassy. My feeling is that the leader should NOT be the one with the embassy. Just my opinion....

MickyG

Well it doesn't really matter who's the leader Q or Muffin, as we have generally made big decisions as an alliance.
Any ideas for everyone's next usernames?
I think im going to have two accounts (badass i know ), one gaul and one teut. One on this computer and then another running on my virtual linux PC.

Grywlf73

im going two accounts as well, Roman and Gaul on two seperate pc's!!! as far as leader, I like the idea of having a front man, but i agree that all decisions need to continue to be made as a group, unless a decision is split, then the leader becomes the decisive one.:bigggrin:

tttooommm10

ooh good idea ill have another account too roman and gaul

Grywlf73

we may hit our quota for alliance membership just with the double accounts...lol

MickyG

Make sure that we don't make it look suspicious, dont send resources between the two without messaging from both accounts as if you were two people .
Use proxies too if your paranoid.

Grywlf73

good point!!! :bigggrin:

Invisible-Muffin

double accounts are more likely to be caught if you join the same alliance.

and for space reasons, put your main account in the alliance, and once we have enough space we'll possibly add the mulit's

however, having multi's in an alliance can bring our name down if we're caught or suspected, and make sure the names have no correlation with one another. just stating the obvious because the SE wing of my s5 alliance had fanling07 as leader, the SE2 one had fanling20 as its leader...

Grywlf73

I agree, names should be completely different. but being in the same alliance shouldnt matter as long as both have own IP's, and are handled in a manner that is consistant with the rules. (other than having two accounts of course )!!

Just be adults about it and all will be well!!! :bigggrin:

Grywlf73

Invisible Muffin wrote:

and for space reasons, put your main account in the alliance, and once we have enough space we'll possibly add the mulit's

I disagree with this, but will do what majority says!!! :smiles:

Invisible-Muffin

well, it's a bit greedy and unfair if you get two spaces while others have to wait.

QCH

I'm supportive of multiple accounts to better our locations NOT to necessarily run them both throughout the game. Am I going to be bitter or think less of someone, no. I know what it's like to manage a large account and I also had a medium account. I almost totally lost the second account because of the time required to manage the other.

If you run separate accounts, named differently and with different IP address (not just separate computers), I have no problem adding you to the alliance as long as there is room. Everyone gets one account in and when that is done, move on to second accounts.

Grywlf73

Invisible Muffin wrote:

well, it's a bit greedy and unfair if you get two spaces while others have to wait.

How exactly is it greedy, and who exactly will have to wait? No one would have to wait....that doesnt make sense...as I recall we had plenty of space last round, and worst comes to worst we make an IC-2.... and how is it different from keeping dead accounts alive in order to keep up production and alliance rank like last round?

Plus having multiple accounts can help with defenses and production, and it makes less sense to have one account in an alliance and one out when you know alliance members will eventually help those villages not in the alliance....which would look a whole lot more suspicious.

But like I said, I will go with the majority on this. If everyone thinks its bad then so be it, if not, then lets rock and roll :bigggrin:

Invisible-Muffin

an IC - 2 could be a disaster.

and it takes a while to get the embassy up to the appropriate level, remember 3 members per embassy level and there's a few of us joining again, and some other folks will want to join in.
it won't be too much of a delay, but i'm just saying you can't be a space-whore in the alliance

Grywlf73

Invisible Muffin wrote:

an IC - 2 could be a disaster.

and it takes a while to get the embassy up to the appropriate level, remember 3 members per embassy level and there's a few of us joining again, and some other folks will want to join in.
it won't be too much of a delay, but i'm just saying you can't be a space-whore in the alliance

Well I see it like this, it could also be a blessing, glass half full !!! We have the same forum so two versions really wouldnt be an issue, communication will still be the same, and as far as building and structuring, well we are all joining in the beginning so it wouldnt be too bad.

But, Lets say everyone who wants a second account, and i think there are four of us so far, waits to sign up their second account for like a week. Then we will know if we have space enough for the extra accounts... that gives us a week to get everyone signed on.

Think about the ease of dealing with a larger alliance but with fewer people....that means less communication and less chance of someone missing something and more of a chance of coordinating large scale events.

There are pro's and con's to both sides!!! :bigggrin:

Harudath

I think that having multiple accounts is stupid, you're almost always going to get caught and banned, the drawbacks outweigh the benefits. You'd just end up spending twice as much time doing the same thing on a game you know that you don't really want to play enough to go through that much stress I'd just stick to one, honest account and play it well. Honour > Cheating. Plus we can uphold the Icrontic name and say we played and beat those bastards fair and square.

Grywlf73

Harudath wrote:

I think that having multiple accounts is stupid, you're almost always going to get caught and banned, the drawbacks outweigh the benefits. You'd just end up spending twice as much time doing the same thing on a game you know that you don't really want to play enough to go through that much stress I'd just stick to one, honest account and play it well. Honour > Cheating. Plus we can uphold the Icrontic name and say we played and beat those bastards fair and square.

I disagree with it being stupid, but everyone has ther opinions and I respect that. And yes there are pro's and cons, but I think that it is up to each individual on how they wish to spend their time. If one thinks a game is stress, then I would guess they miss the whole point of it being a game!!! Everyone is different, so why generalize!!!

Im with Q on this...I support it!!!:bigggrin:

Middge

Not to bash anyone who is going to be running multiple accounts, but I feel that it may be a bit hypocritical. Look what we did to Godsend when we found out he was tag teaming his single account? Would we have responded any differently towards him if we found out he had multiple accounts and was using that advantage to take over our power base? No way. He would have been banned just the same.

As Q said I will not look down on anyone for rockin with 2 accounts, but I definitely will not be doing it. I doubt I would have the time to do it anyway, hehe. As for the embassy, I am willing to take that torch if necessary. If not I will certainly supply resources to whoever is managing the embassy.

Linc

I'm just going to throw this out there... I would've committed suicide if I'd been running a second account last round.

It's. Nuts.

Middge

Keebler wrote:

I'm just going to throw this out there... I would've committed suicide if I'd been running a second account last round.

It's. Nuts.

Yes, it may even be a safe bet that had you been running two accounts from the get-go you may have ended up getting frustrated with 2 half-assed accounts that combined weren't as productive as your single account which flourished, no?

But I suppose that is all a moot point considering Felix donated that account to you in decent standing. The point still remains though. It would probably require too much time to make 2 accounts work where 1 account can really be nice.

Linc

I'm saying I couldn't have devoted more time to the game and maintained a functional, social life.

If you had < 10 villages, you have no idea. It can take an HOUR+ just to get all your villages queued, raiding, etc EVERY time you touch the game. By the time you're done setting everything in motion, things are already done. Rinse and repeat. And repeat. And repeat.

I would've sooner quit than start another village by the time I had 17.

If you have the time and patience to maintain 2 accounts for the duration of a server, you might consider taking up a constructive hobby instead

Grywlf73

Keebler wrote:

I'm saying I couldn't have devoted more time to the game and maintained a functional, social life.

If you had < 10 villages, you have no idea. It can take an HOUR+ just to get all your villages queued, raiding, etc EVERY time you touch the game. By the time you're done setting everything in motion, things are already done. Rinse and repeat. And repeat. And repeat.

I would've sooner quit than start another village by the time I had 17.

If you have the time and patience to maintain 2 accounts for the duration of a server, you might consider taking up a constructive hobby instead

All very good points, and I didnt have more than ten villages so I may have to rethink....but better to be told as you did then to be looked down upon as "greedy" and "stupid" which I felt, but I know it was in jest so no hard feelings....so I thank you for your input, it may seriously change my mind...then again I may use one account to help build the other before I rejoin the alliance, say two weeks time from time of start....that way if I get busted, It wont reflect the alliance and by the time I join the alliance I would drop the other account. We'll see...thanx for a different perspective!!! :smiles:

QCH

I will be registering with 3 accounts and see where each is located. Best one I keep, the rest will be deleted. I HIGHLY SUGGEST that everyone follows that approach. Keebler is dead on... I spent over an hour every 4 or 5 hours with upkeep and I didn't raid much.

Discussion Done....




I will work closely with Muffin to lead this Clan. What he says goes, what I say goes. I'll cover internal stuff like membership and the embassy. He will handle external issues and the direction of the Clan. Together we will make the {IC} Clan unstoppable!!!

Grywlf73

QCH2002 wrote:

I will be registering with 3 accounts and see where each is located. Best one I keep, the rest will be deleted. I HIGHLY SUGGEST that everyone follows that approach. Keebler is dead on... I spent over an hour every 4 or 5 hours with upkeep and I didn't raid much.

Discussion Done....




I will work closely with Muffin to lead this Clan. What he says goes, what I say goes. I'll cover internal stuff like membership and the embassy. He will handle external issues and the direction of the Clan. Together we will make the {IC} Clan unstoppable!!!

We may discuss and debate, but thats what a forum is for...and some may agree and some may disagree, but at least we can all come together in the end for a common goal!!! So lets kick butt and have fun!!!

I will do the same with my accounts but will probably keep two going for just the beginning....Once I can settle another village, I will drop the other account.

Saracen

I'll add this.

If you are going to run multiple accounts, any one way pushing of resources WILL be seen and you WILL be banned.

Some will remember I (Markaroon III) was banned for 7 days, had my resources halved and a drop in population IIRC for doing just that.

The MultiHunters are there for a reason and if you do get found out all you can do is IGM, everything else is locked out. Then its upto you to plead your case with the MH's.

MickyG

I'm not going to keep a second account throughout the whole game, only till i know i can handle teutons,

Lambo

Sure you all know this.... but if you have multiple accounts.... Use different passwords!!!! MHs know!!!!

MickyG

Lambo wrote:

Sure you all know this.... but if you have multiple accounts.... Use different passwords!!!!

Thanks for the reminder .
I thought of everything else to make it not seem like i have two, different OS, using proxies, different email.
Just not password. haha!

Grywlf73

Well when I first started last round Q was sending me resources pretty much constantly and no one questioned us although we were sending messages back and forth like crazy...I think if there is communication between the two accounts and that transfering resources isnt on consistant time frames, then we should be ok...but I do believe that being cautious and using common sense is a priority in succeeding.

But I thank all of you, because of all the warnings and telling us what to do and what not to do has helped me plan better and keep a watchful eye. I am only keeping two accounts for about a week or two, then it will be dropped and I will stay Roman!!!

QCH

Push 101 - Cliff notes version

Larger can send a crap load to a little guy.

Little guy cannot send much to big guy.