Athlon 64 3000+ released and available

TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
edited December 2003 in Hardware
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-425&DEPA=1&sumit=property&catalog=343&mfrcode=0&propertycodevalue=4954,4425&keywords=&minprice=&maxprice=

$215 but the only thing i am curious about is that some retailers have this cpu with 512kb of L2 cache but others have it with 1mb.

I have read a lot of rumours though that this cpu is being released with 512kb of L2 cache.

Another thing: It's listed as a socket 754 cpu :wtf:

Webmasters at Newegg drunk?

All we need now is a mainboard that is worth the name and that actually is working.
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  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Here's a screenie that shows it has 512kb of cache:
  • madmatmadmat
    edited December 2003
    Yeah the 64's with a perfomance rating are the 754 chips and the FX series are the 940 chips.
    I wonder how the VIA chipset works with the 754 chips.
    Considering they are single channel ram setups anyways it makes me wonder if the VIA will be as good as the N-Force 3.
  • madmatmadmat
    edited December 2003
    I went looking around and found this at overclockers.com, interesting stuff to say the least.
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    If that's true, Neweggs is a 512kb cache cpu:

    19-103-425-01.JPG
  • TexTex Dallas/Ft. Worth
    edited December 2003
    They were referring to a socket 939 ? Is that the socket 940 or is it a newer socket for single cpu boxs' or ??

    Tex
  • BudBud Chesterfield, Va
    edited December 2003
    so do you thing its a awesome cpu, is it a good upgrade for someone with a barton 2500+ or wait till they come down more?
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Don't think so Bud. From a Palomino or an early tbred, maybe. I'm holding on to socket 939 and the FX chips in the spring 2004.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Hmm.... fun for me running an old A type T-Bred 1800+....

    This was available on NewEgg the other day as I was looking when you recommended them on the other thread.
    Still, the question arrises, are they actually worth buying? The benchmarks don't look too bad, but they don't look amazing either.
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    The only problem the way i see it is that currently, Via is the best option for a mainboard to it.

    The boxed version is available at Komplett here in Norway but NOT in the uk. Give it a week and it will be available there as well.

    In your case and if i had the dough, i would go for it actually. Considering the speed you have on your rig, a new mainboard and this cpu would be great for you NS. It will be about £170 for the boxed version in the UK.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Mackanz had this to say
    The only problem the way i see it is that currently, Via is the best option for a mainboard to it.

    The boxed version is available at Komplett here in Norway but NOT in the uk. Give it a week and it will be available there as well.

    In your case and if i had the dough, i would go for it actually. Considering the speed you have on your rig, a new mainboard and this cpu would be great for you NS. It will be about £170 for the boxed version in the UK.

    Well, I was actually going to get it from the US and get someone to ship it over for me, in which case, I could get the mobo AND processor for under £200. NewEgg also have nForce 3 motherboards for 754 pin processors (as shown here - http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=property&DEPA=1 )
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    I see,

    Then the choice is even easier to make.

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-122-113&catalog=-1&depa=0

    Fantastic price considering what the board has on it.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    This is strange, the Athlon 64's are listed at 1.8ghz with 512k cache on NEgg, rather than 2ghz with 512k cache..... any idea whats going on?
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    It's probably due to the mix-up between the 1.8/1MB cache version and the 2.0/512MHz version... maybe newegg misunderstood and took the lower rating on both?
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Yes, looks like it's a listing mistake, quoting to a user review -
    This is a 2GHz processor with 512KB of L2 cache, not a 1.8GHz processor with 1MB of L2 cache as some of you may have heard. Take a look at the OPN if you don't believe me.

    So thats reassuring.
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Weird!

    Perhaps a 2800+ version as well?
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Mackanz had this to say
    Weird!

    Perhaps a 2800+ version as well?

    No, just a typo :thumbsup:
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Right, with that Leadtek board and the Athlon 64 3000+ comes to £177 shipped to the buyer, so I just need to add shipping to me, and thats the final price..... other than a cooler....

    Does anyone have any recommendations for a cooler for it? Nothing expensive though. Doesn't seem to be a huge selection on NewEgg, though remember, I wont be overclocking much as the chip seems to top out around 2.2ghz (from 2ghz) and runs default at 1.5v - http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=property&DEPA=1
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Since ThermalRight hasn't put out a cooler for Socket754 yet, I can't really make a recommendation. ;)

    But the Coolermaster Newegg carries looks decent but not much different from the stock Socket 754 HSF - for the $19 it would cost to get the Coolermaster shipped, that covers the price difference between OEM and Retail boxed A64-XP3000+ chips, so I'd say get the retail box and get the warranty too... If you can put up with a little extra noise, a 60x25MM fan can be put on the heatsink for some more CFM, until better heatsinks come out for Socket 754.
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited December 2003
    Zalman seems to make the only enthusiast socket 754 heatsink.

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?description=35-118-109

    If you're willing to dish out ~$40 this thing will do an excellent job over the stock sink. They should have them in UK stores.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    So now all I need to do is find someone who is willing to order the stuff, and then ship it to me...
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited December 2003
    Or... you could check UK retailers.
  • ketoketo Occupied. Or is it preoccupied? Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Enverex, are customs not going to hit you up for VAT and duty when it comes over the ocean? They do that to us just coming across the US-->Canada border...
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Al_Capown had this to say
    Zalman seems to make the only enthusiast socket 754 heatsink.

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?description=35-118-109

    If you're willing to dish out ~$40 this thing will do an excellent job over the stock sink. They should have them in UK stores.

    Yeah, it's for sale over here at £38 ($66) which is more than I am willing, or have, to spend on a HeatSink.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Al_Capown had this to say
    Or... you could check UK retailers.

    Firstly, there is no-where near as much choice, secondly, it will cost roughly £300 in total and third, the Athlon 64 3000+ isn't actually for sale over here.
    Enverex, are customs not going to hit you up for VAT and duty when it comes over the ocean? They do that to us just coming across the US-->Canada border...

    Sometimes. It depends firstly on luck, and secondly on how much you mark it as.
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited December 2003
    Enverex had this to say
    So now all I need to do is find someone who is willing to order the stuff, and then ship it to me...

    Thought you were talking about just the heatsink. My mistake.
  • panzerkwpanzerkw New York City
    edited December 2003
    keto had this to say
    Enverex, are customs not going to hit you up for VAT and duty when it comes over the ocean? They do that to us just coming across the US-->Canada border...

    So much for NAFTA...
  • ketoketo Occupied. Or is it preoccupied? Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    *edit* unintelligent blabber removed with apologies.

    NAFTA = not what we (we being Canadian consumers) thought it would be when it was rolled out lo those many years ago. It's all a big political game, far beyond my comprehension other than to know I still pay duty on many or most consumer goods imported from the U.S.A., regardless of their original manufacture point.

    Back to topic, find any volunteer buyers yet Enverex? Firmly decided on the 3000+ and the Leadtek?
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Buy the boxed version. The cooler is supposed to be ok on the 64.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Mackanz had this to say
    Buy the boxed version. The cooler is supposed to be ok on the 64.

    Thats what I was going to do anyway, as the decent cooler is way too expensive and the other ones on NewEgg are just crap anyway.

    Al: Ha, yeah, would be a little pointless just buying a heatsink from the US.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Someone? Anyone? Was kind of hoping to get this before, or slightly after christmas.....
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