OK - so I updated the BIOS. Fiddled around a little bit. Now the PC POSTs but won't go into Windows @ stock. It won't make it all the way into Windows at 11x133 1.75 VCore either, so I think something is wrongo here... suggestions?
It's all about cooling. I have learned that the last few days. My Barton wouldn't even run stable at 2.4 and 1.95 volt in win XP on Watercooling. With this Prometeia, same chip at same voltages primes fine at over 2650 (currently priming at 2693) in the same OS.
I finally got a decent fan to put on my Primary's SLK-900A, a ~60 CFM Enermax 92MM unit. Even with 60 CFM though, this processor is only doing 2.2GHz (200x11) at 1.875 VCore and running at 48C. That's too much for me, and it hard-locks at 200x11.5 - any suggestions?
So you're saying that an SLK900A with a 64CFM fan is insufficient to run it stock?
IMO, the Thermalrights are overrated A LOT. They produce false temperatures by blowing air around the socket since approx. 40% of the effective airflow from a 92mm fan on that heatsink is going outside the heatsink. I know a lot of you guys will jump at me now but that's my opinion.
OK - so I updated the BIOS. Fiddled around a little bit. Now the PC POSTs but won't go into Windows @ stock. It won't make it all the way into Windows at 11x133 1.75 VCore either, so I think something is wrongo here... suggestions?
Ok, didn't see that (not looking enough as usual). In that case, this is all of topic then. It's down to a direct hardware fault or problem here.
Before you flashed the bios, did you have Apic enabled or disabled? It's enabled by default. Windows will go tits up if it suddenly finds out that you are using Apic when the OS is installed with Apic off.
Apic was on both before and after the BIOS flash. I'm rebuilding the PC from scratch in a new box, and clearing CMOS by jumper before trying again. I'm doing this tonight and I'll post my results, hopefully from that PC...
Yeah. Almost everyone with an NF7-S here has used FlashMenu without a problem.
I haven't used it yet.
I do not like the idea of flashing the BIOS while running windows.
There is a first for everything though.
Mackanz, why do you have to come here and say that the Thermalright is no good?
I am about to purchase one very soon.
A lot of people have had good results with it.
The Thermalright is better than a lot of other heatsinks right?
It should be better than my ancient Silent Viking though.
The Viking is holding up though, I did not think it would suffice at my current speed.
But 2.2 Ghz - 2.4 Ghz cannot be acheived with it.
It is impossible.
BTW I moderate my comment.
I belive Mack said that TR is not as good as "everyone" thinks it is.
There that should do the trick.
And of course a Prometia setup is better *sigh"
If I had the dough I might go water as well.
But air is the cheaper way.
How come that two members are having problems with their NF7-S at the same time?
That is quite odd.
NF7 have about the highest percentage of rma rate at the moment of all NF2 boards actually. I don't have any numbers, but looking at 4 different forums is enough.
I'm not comparing with a Prometeia. That's just silly. But, one of these days i will prove that the TR thing is somewhat a myth. It's good, no doubt, PERHAPS one of the best available. But not as good as the reviewers says IMO. Put a 80mm fan at X CFM on that 900. Run 100% load for a week to give the goop some time. Measure the ambient temp at the same time. Then do the same with a 92mm fan at the same CFM.
IMO, the temps should be very close. I hope i am wrong though.
I actually saw very close temps with an 80MM fan that is ~10CFM less than the 92MM fan that I use on it. In fact, I'm considering switching back from the 64CFM 92MM Enermax to the 53CFM 80MM Mechatronics, just to get more of the airflow in the fins.
Looking forward to see how you would kill that myth.
Regarding the NF7 rma situation.
Maybe Abit is putting all of their effort into the AN7 and their A64 boards?
It seems odd that the NF7 has become so bad in a matter of months.
2 months ago everyone was praising the NF7.
Looks like the tables have turned.
I am very happy that I have a NF7-S rev. 2.0 that is working flawlessly.
The problem is that SOME of the new NF7 overclocks like beasts. MANY goes to the rma also. It's more luck than ever with this board. Nforce 2 chipset is the weirdest evar though.
Well, I'm posting from that PC now. It works, stock for now. The temp is a little high for my liking - 40C at stock voltage and speed. I'm going to try for 2.2GHz now and see what happens.
//edit: OC'd to 2.2GHz - does it at 1.8 VCore, but no less. It's an improvement, I suppose.
While I do not have any problems running at stock voltage, I am depressed that I cannot take my 2500+ up to 3200+ stable (even with the voltage boost).
My stepping is the following
AMD Athlon 2500+ (retail box) with the following codes:
AXDA2500DKV4D KO22244L31038
AQZEA0332MPMW
I guess the big question is, "How do we narrow down the culprit once we know the RAM is OK: Motherboard, CPU, or Other"? Is the job of the Mobo in OC'ing to merely supply a constant stream of juice to the CPU, or can other components (like a faulty Northbridge) cause lousy OC'ing? Hmm...
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PS - passed memtest.
IMO, the Thermalrights are overrated A LOT. They produce false temperatures by blowing air around the socket since approx. 40% of the effective airflow from a 92mm fan on that heatsink is going outside the heatsink. I know a lot of you guys will jump at me now but that's my opinion.
Before you flashed the bios, did you have Apic enabled or disabled? It's enabled by default. Windows will go tits up if it suddenly finds out that you are using Apic when the OS is installed with Apic off.
I do not like the idea of flashing the BIOS while running windows.
There is a first for everything though.
Mackanz, why do you have to come here and say that the Thermalright is no good?
I am about to purchase one very soon.
A lot of people have had good results with it.
The Thermalright is better than a lot of other heatsinks right?
Thermalright is a lot better than most other aircooling options though.
It should be better than my ancient Silent Viking though.
The Viking is holding up though, I did not think it would suffice at my current speed.
But 2.2 Ghz - 2.4 Ghz cannot be acheived with it.
It is impossible.
BTW I moderate my comment.
I belive Mack said that TR is not as good as "everyone" thinks it is.
There that should do the trick.
And of course a Prometia setup is better *sigh"
If I had the dough I might go water as well.
But air is the cheaper way.
How come that two members are having problems with their NF7-S at the same time?
That is quite odd.
I'm not comparing with a Prometeia. That's just silly. But, one of these days i will prove that the TR thing is somewhat a myth. It's good, no doubt, PERHAPS one of the best available. But not as good as the reviewers says IMO. Put a 80mm fan at X CFM on that 900. Run 100% load for a week to give the goop some time. Measure the ambient temp at the same time. Then do the same with a 92mm fan at the same CFM.
IMO, the temps should be very close. I hope i am wrong though.
Regarding the NF7 rma situation.
Maybe Abit is putting all of their effort into the AN7 and their A64 boards?
It seems odd that the NF7 has become so bad in a matter of months.
2 months ago everyone was praising the NF7.
Looks like the tables have turned.
I am very happy that I have a NF7-S rev. 2.0 that is working flawlessly.
It is an early rev. 2.0.
Dunno how high the FSB will go yet.
I would prefer nForce2 over KT400A.
But the nForce2 sure has its quirks.
Here is a few of them.
- Best memory performance with Tras at 11.
- Performance drop when running async.
Anymore oddities?It kinda reminds me of my old KT7A-Raid it was very fussy as well.
All the settings had to be right.
//edit: OC'd to 2.2GHz - does it at 1.8 VCore, but no less. It's an improvement, I suppose.
I too am wondering if I have either a lousy Proc or Mobo? Please see my post here: http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?p=90149#post90149
While I do not have any problems running at stock voltage, I am depressed that I cannot take my 2500+ up to 3200+ stable (even with the voltage boost).
My stepping is the following
AMD Athlon 2500+ (retail box) with the following codes:
AXDA2500DKV4D KO22244L31038
AQZEA0332MPMW
I guess the big question is, "How do we narrow down the culprit once we know the RAM is OK: Motherboard, CPU, or Other"? Is the job of the Mobo in OC'ing to merely supply a constant stream of juice to the CPU, or can other components (like a faulty Northbridge) cause lousy OC'ing? Hmm...