9600GSO

jared

OK, I'm in the process of trying to track down 3 9600GSO cards so fatcat will never have a chance to catch me!

The cheapest cards I have found are on Newegg and Ebay.

My question, however, is does the difference in 192-bit or 256-bit make a large PPD difference in folding?

Both Ebay and Newegg have 9600GSOs for ~70ish but they are 192-bit cards.

Thanks

This is going to be me soon ->:smokin:

Snarkasm

I think the one with 96 shader pipes is the one you want, but I think Leo can chime in more.

mas0n

Yes, you want the one with 96 shaders and 192-bit bus. The 9600GSO with a 256-bit bus have less shaders (64 or even 48). A wider bus is generally better for folding but not as important as shader count and clock.

jared

Alright thanks, definitely didn't know that.

I noticed the 256 bit ones were more expensive so I originally thought maybe that is what I wanted.

Now I'm off to hunt down the cards

fatcat

u building 3 machines or getting a quad PCIE16x board?

yeah 96 Stream procs

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150320

jared

My dad has a C2D machine with a 7900GT in it. Over Xmas I'm going to switching out for a 9600GSO and get GPU2 on it

The other two are gonna go in a folding box I'm trying to get together.

/me is bringing out the big guns

mas0n

fatcat, what's your average PPD between all WUs on the one you picked up? I know some of the new larger WUs are dropping PPD pretty low, but am assuming the small/medium sized WUs are still 4K or higher?

jared

Even though they are pretty cheap (the 9600GSO), if it is going to make a difference in the near future in PPD I have no problem paying an extra $15-20 bucks to get 9800GTs instead.

If you think this is a smarter move and the card will have a longer (and higher) folding life span please let me know. Newegg often has 9800GTs for under 100 bucks.

cheers

fatcat

mas0n wrote:

fatcat, what's your average PPD between all WUs on the one you picked up? I know some of the new larger WUs are dropping PPD pretty low, but am assuming the small/medium sized WUs are still 4K or higher?

9600GSO
5013 - 4231ppd
5015 - 4231ppd
5750 - 2628ppd
5752 - 2692ppd
5757 - 3456ppd
5760 - 3492ppd
5764 - 3385ppd

mas0n

As Stanford moves to larger protein WUs it's looking like we'll see PPD drop on all nvidia cards with the entire 8/9 series taking a pretty big hit. The cards with fewer shaders will see it first and will take a proportionaly larger hit. If you can get a really good deal on an 88/9800GT I'd say you should probably do it, but when the dust clears it's hard to say how big a difference it will make. Also consider that the 9600GSO will eat about 20% less power than a 9800GT.

mas0n

fatcat wrote:

9600GSO
5013 - 4231ppd
5015 - 4231ppd
5750 - 2628ppd
5752 - 2692ppd
5757 - 3456ppd
5760 - 3492ppd
5764 - 3385ppd

And for reference, my 8800GT:

5013 - 4879PPD
5015 - 4879PPD
5749 - 3476PPD
5754 - 3476PPD
5757 - 4423PPD
5760 - 4423PPD
5764 - 4423PPD

Unfortunately I am continually seeing more of the ~3500PPD WUs.

mas0n

For some more info on these new WUs: http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=7131

They'll only get larger from here.

jared

mas0n wrote:

And for reference, my 8800GT:

5013 - 4879PPD
5015 - 4879PPD
5749 - 3476PPD
5754 - 3476PPD
5757 - 4423PPD
5760 - 4423PPD
5764 - 4423PPD

Unfortunately I am continually seeing more of the ~3500PPD WUs.

Not taking power into consideration, that's a nice size difference in PPD. I know Fatcat has his shaders overclocked and I am assuming you do to.

The good think about the 8800/9800GTs is that it seems to be more of a main stream card, more of them out there so I probably have a good chance of finding a few good deals.

I'll look around and see what I can find. If a 8800/9800 is steadily going to give me 400-800ppd more than a GSO, more the additional 15 bucks that might be a smarter buy.

At the minimum I'll look at getting a 8800/9800GT for my Pop's PC since I'm not paying that electric bill.

Thanks for all the info Mason.

cheers

fatcat

if you're not paying the bill you need to get him a 9800GX2.

Leonardo

I think the one with 96 shader pipes is the one you want, but I think Leo can chime in more.

Like a big dog rushing into the kitchen when someone opens the refrigerator....

Yes, with Nvidia GPUs, shader quantity and shader clock are the keys to success. More and higher, respectively. That's far more important than core clock, memory frequency, and memory quantity. But you will find that generally, GPUs with higher core clocks usually have higher shader counts and frequencies. I overclock all of my GPUs except one of them (one out of eight), but I only overclock shader clocks.

_k

I should have two of the evga 9600GSOs, 384P3N966TR, in the mail by the end of this week. Report after they come in.

_k

2 9600s in the mail next week watch out if you are above me.....the storm is coming.

_k

they arrived.....NNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEESISISIISISISIISISISIS