Valkyria Chronicles: The underrated PS3 game you need to buy

primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' BoopinDetroit, MI Icrontian
edited July 2009 in Gaming
Valkyria Chronicles: The underrated PS3 game you need to buy

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  • drasnordrasnor Starship Operator Hawthorne, CA Icrontian
    edited March 2009
    How was Jeanne D'Arc?

    -drasnor :fold:
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited March 2009
    Jeanne D'Arc is incredible. I loved it.
  • PreacherPreacher Potomac, MD Icrontian
    edited March 2009
    Brian,
    I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with your review. I fought Rex on our opinion of this game. I thought the demo was a blast and we are buying it. It's much better than LOTR, DUF, and Resistance.
    Jeff
  • MochanMochan Philippines
    edited March 2009
    I felt Jeanne d'Arc was horrible. Aside from the bad characters, the gameplay was really bad for an SRPG. Limited turns per battle, who came up with that idea? Each battle ended up being a puzzle for you to figure out how best to use your magical girl transformation sequence most efficiently rather than building up a party with skills to take on challenges.

    As an SRPG fan who bought a PSP with Jeanne D'Arc as a game to buy the system for, I was very disappointed with it.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited March 2009
    I completely disagree with you. You don't need to use the transforms to win the game; like any SRPG, every battle is a puzzle. While I agree that some characters were less than useful and overall there were too many characters, I still really had a great run with this game and will probably revisit it in the future.
  • MochanMochan Philippines
    edited March 2009
    Games like Final Fantasy Tactics did not have the battles as puzzles. In FFT you were free to build your party however you chose, and get past battles however you chose. There was no magical solution to solve it. Ditto with Tactics Ogre -- the old Team Quest knew how to make SRPGs.

    I completely disagree that every SRPG has battles which are puzzles. This is true for lesser tier SRPGs like Disgaea and Jeanne D'Arc but for the best SRPGs like FFT, TO, and even Front Mission 3 they were not puzzles but walls for you to overcome with all your power.
  • MochanMochan Philippines
    edited March 2009
    BTW Primesuspect, regarding VC: I was really amped to get VC and buy a PS3 just for it -- make no mistake this game is a system seller for me, I just haven't gotten around to getting a PS3 yet.

    But I read some reviews where the battle mechanics of the game felt "canned" instead of free flowing. The rock-paper-sword mechanic was relied on a little too much. For instance tank shells are designed to be anti-tank, so if they hit an infantry soldier they don't get damaged much -- which of course is ludicrous.

    How was your experience of the game's damage model in relation to that?
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited March 2009
    Mochan wrote:
    Games like Final Fantasy Tactics did not have the battles as puzzles. In FFT you were free to build your party however you chose, and get past battles however you chose. There was no magical solution to solve it. Ditto with Tactics Ogre -- the old Team Quest knew how to make SRPGs.

    I completely disagree that every SRPG has battles which are puzzles. This is true for lesser tier SRPGs like Disgaea and Jeanne D'Arc but for the best SRPGs like FFT, TO, and even Front Mission 3 they were not puzzles but walls for you to overcome with all your power.

    Perhaps we're getting into a semantic argument about what the term "puzzle" means; I believe that the battles in FFT are puzzles; there is an objective, you are given a set of tools and rules, and you have to complete the objective. There are certainly many different ways to solve the puzzle, but a puzzle it is.

    You can indeed build your party however you choose in Jeanne d'Arc, I'm not sure where you're getting that from.

    Anyways, we clearly have a difference of opinion; no point in arguing, one can't make another "like" something via words, so I'll just leave it at: I really enjoyed Jeanne D'Arc, I think it was a great game, and this thread is about Valkyria Chronicles :D
  • MochanMochan Philippines
    edited March 2009
    The customization of your party in Jeanne D'Arc is nowhere near as robust as it is in other SRPGs, not even as robust as in Disgaea. But again the real deal breaker in JDA is the turn-limited battles which severely cut your options in battle down.

    But anyway yes let's agree to disagree on this one. Going back to Valkyrie of the Battlefield, I had a question on the damage model...
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited March 2009
    okay, hit me :D
  • MochanMochan Philippines
    edited March 2009
    It's in my previous post...
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited March 2009
    Mochan wrote:
    BTW Primesuspect, regarding VC: I was really amped to get VC and buy a PS3 just for it -- make no mistake this game is a system seller for me, I just haven't gotten around to getting a PS3 yet.

    But I read some reviews where the battle mechanics of the game felt "canned" instead of free flowing. The rock-paper-sword mechanic was relied on a little too much. For instance tank shells are designed to be anti-tank, so if they hit an infantry soldier they don't get damaged much -- which of course is ludicrous.

    How was your experience of the game's damage model in relation to that?

    Ah, missed this post. Sorry.

    That part is true; you have to be careful to choose your weapons appropriately for whatever you're facing; a lancer (anti-tank foot soldier) is next to useless against infantry. You can damage a foot soldier with an RPG but it's usually not a one-hit kill. It is slightly ludicrous. The tank shells are the same. Your tank has different kinds of shells, anti-tank and anti-personnel, as well as large-caliber machine gun. The machine gun would be used for picking off individuals (like high level commander personnel), the anti-personnel area grenade would be good for a cluster of lower-level foot soldiers, and the anti-tank would be used against other vehicles, armored gun placements, structures, etc.

    It's a minor problem in my opinion. It didn't bother me that much. I certainly wouldn't consider it a dealbreaker, but you seem to be pretty strict on your SRPG requirements ;);D
  • BuddyJBuddyJ Dept. of Propaganda OKC Icrontian
    edited March 2009
    How does this compare to the Front Mission games?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited March 2009
    OMG FM3 is my favorite game ever. <i>Ever</i>.
  • xero
    edited July 2009
    i never had a problem killing infintry with an rpg shell in this game i only had that problem against lancers and thats because there designed to fight tanks. but a couple of times i did hit a shock trooper dead on and i survived but barely.
  • GooDGooD Quebec (CAN) Member
    edited July 2009
    Just bought VC last week and i must say this is the best game i've played since a long time. No its not perfect, but for a STR lover who like to "get closer" to the caracters in a game, its a very great game ! Story is nice. The graphic style is also awesome, very cartoon without looking "unreal". But what i like the most is the you get to like some caracter more than other, like the trooper Hannes, everytime i get to control him i was smiling, he's a "i have no fear" and "die at everycost" kind of guy, loved it :) Each of the personnel available have its own personality, its a great addition to a great game.

    For me too there's no question, if you like japanease style, good caracters and storytelling, and are a STR fan (if you're not you might find this game too difficult), this game is a MUST.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    Eurogamer agrees with me in their retrospective. This game is amazing.
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    Still enjoy the series. I wish Sega would translate the third one.
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian

    Valkyria Chronicles arrives on PC November 11 with all DLC included. $19.99.

    ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney

    primesuspectGargBuddyJ
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    edited October 2014

    Preorder is $17.99 on Steam

  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited November 2014

    Pre-purchased with no hesitation (hopefully it's a good port). Thanks @mertesn!

    I never did get a PS3, but the only games I really wanted to play were this and 3D Dot Game Heroes. Between this PC port and Voxatron, maybe I don't need a PS3 after all.

  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian

    I also purchased it immediately. I can't wait!

  • DeathJesterDeathJester Lone Wolf Oklahoma Icrontian

    I bought my PS3 just to play Valkyria Chronicles.

    BuddyJ
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian

    Preloaded last night (WTF 16+GB). Played it today. Am not disappoint.

  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian

    Forgot it came out. Crap. I had things to do this weekend.

  • IlriyasIlriyas The Syrupy Canadian Toronto, Ontario Icrontian

    Looks like an anime WW2 kinda interested though I'm hesitant as it's a port.

  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian

    It's a good port.

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