Incidents like this and the glowing track record of Sheriff Bud are the prime reasons I will never set foot in Maricopa County. I don't care if they're giving out free gold bars. The only thing that would make it worth it would be the option to club Sheriff Bud over the head with it when you receive it.
Here in Phoenix we also have sheriff Arpaio doing things that make you fear. His tank runs over cars parked in the street, among other things.
yeah the pink underwear guy! I heard about him. Didn't hear about the parked cars stuff. But come on if you had a tank won't you run over stuff too?:bigggrin:
As much as this doesn't shock me, the story itself IS pretty one-sided and sensationalistic. I mean, come on... "...everything necessary to continue blogging"??
Psst... smartphone... internet cafe... netbook... they're hardly making it impossible for the guy to blog.
I'd suspect, if this guy is getting a bunch of "inside info" from the department, they're probably more concerned with finding the leak than they are about shutting the guy up. Leaks like that could seriously compromise ongoing investigations, undercover operations, and officers' personal safety (not to mention that of their friends and relatives).
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LeonardoWake up and smell the glaciersEagle River, AlaskaIcrontian
edited April 2009
Here in Phoenix we also have sheriff Arpaio doing things that make you fear. His tank runs over cars parked in the street, among other things.
LeonardoWake up and smell the glaciersEagle River, AlaskaIcrontian
edited April 2009
I have a difficult time finding an article to be "news" that begins with "Sheriff Joe's goons launched an assault to make a misdemeanor arrest." Credibility takes another hit when the banner at the top, much larger than the headliner features, "Details on Karaoke" and "Get Discovered in a Bar." I will take away this from the article: something unpleasant happened to someone because of the sheriff. There was an armored vehicle involved. That's about all I would trust that piece for. I am not saying the facts reported by the web page are incorrect or that the itty bitty black and white pictures (seriously?) don't correspond to the event, but I don't usually associate the party scene with investigative accuracy. Perceptions may be wrong, but nonetheless, they are perceptions.
I agree with Leanardo. I don't find this article credible at all. It sounds like something TMZ would come up with. Do you have an article from a credible news source. One that isn't hell bent on spreading propaganda.
They have a print edition, but actually a lot of local newspapers have a grudge against Arpaio. He recently raided some newspaper's office after they wrote an unfavorable article against him.
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LeonardoWake up and smell the glaciersEagle River, AlaskaIcrontian
edited April 2009
Ray, I believe there are bad actors to be found in groups of humans of any stripe - blue collar worker, white collar worker, government employee, politician, and yes, law enforcement officers too. But I'd like to see a real news article - not a blog, and not Cool Joe Blow's groovy web page - documenting apparent illegal activity. Anyone can start a web page or blog and say whatever they wish. Maybe it's horribly slanted and merely propaganda, maybe it's objective. At least most major news outlets, whatever their faults, have been observed and subjected to scrutiny for a while.
As far as controversy and Arpaio go, that has been around since he first put criminals in tents, what, 20 years ago? Any strong law enforcement agency or prominent LE official who aggressively enforces the law will be controversial and loathed. I have no doubt that criminals consider Maricopa county a less desirable area to commit crimes than in the neighboring Arizona locales.
Arpaio did order a raid of Mesa City Hall, with a proper, legal search warrant. And the raid was fruitful, with legal arrests made. My brief Internet search though, did not turn up any established news reporting of Arpaio raiding a newspaper.
If Arpaio has abused his authority and overstepped the law, then I'm sure justice will ensue. There are just too many watchdog groups to let it pass.
But I'd like to see a real news article - not a blog, and not Cool Joe Blow's groovy web page - documenting apparent illegal activity
And what then would you consider a "real" news source? Fox News? The New York Post? The Weekly World News?
Anyone can start a web page or blog and say whatever they wish. Maybe it's horribly slanted and merely propaganda, maybe it's objective. At least most major news outlets, whatever their faults, have been observed and subjected to scrutiny for a while.
Being "published" and having a lot of money behind it does not automatically make a source credible...
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LeonardoWake up and smell the glaciersEagle River, AlaskaIcrontian
edited April 2009
Being "published" and having a lot of money behind it does not automatically make a source credible...
I couldn't agree more. But the no-names usually do not face the scrutiny of bigger outfits, that's why I wrote:
At least most major news outlets, whatever their faults, have been observed and subjected to scrutiny for a while.
Lou Dobbs on CNN has Reverend Al Sharpton and an ACORN rep on his show talking about the 4 congresspersons that got the Justice Department to investigate Sheriff Joe Arpaio for unconstitutional, rights violating programs.
I couldn't agree more. But the no-names usually do not face the scrutiny of bigger outfits, that's why I wrote:
At least most major news outlets, whatever their faults, have been observed and subjected to scrutiny for a while.
And has that scrutiny aided the accuracy - or reputation - of Fox or the Post? No, because that sort of "reporting" still has a market. For an extreme example of that, witness the National Enquirer and its ilk - sure some people read them just for the amusement factor, but there are plenty who actually believe everything they print. I don't think you'll find many publications that have had anywhere NEAR as much scrutiny, or ridicule, as your basic Supermarket Tabloid... yet they continue on their merry way as well.
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yeah the pink underwear guy! I heard about him. Didn't hear about the parked cars stuff. But come on if you had a tank won't you run over stuff too?:bigggrin:
Psst... smartphone... internet cafe... netbook... they're hardly making it impossible for the guy to blog.
I'd suspect, if this guy is getting a bunch of "inside info" from the department, they're probably more concerned with finding the leak than they are about shutting the guy up. Leaks like that could seriously compromise ongoing investigations, undercover operations, and officers' personal safety (not to mention that of their friends and relatives).
I was thinking it read more like something from theonion.com ...
As far as controversy and Arpaio go, that has been around since he first put criminals in tents, what, 20 years ago? Any strong law enforcement agency or prominent LE official who aggressively enforces the law will be controversial and loathed. I have no doubt that criminals consider Maricopa county a less desirable area to commit crimes than in the neighboring Arizona locales.
Arpaio did order a raid of Mesa City Hall, with a proper, legal search warrant. And the raid was fruitful, with legal arrests made. My brief Internet search though, did not turn up any established news reporting of Arpaio raiding a newspaper.
If Arpaio has abused his authority and overstepped the law, then I'm sure justice will ensue. There are just too many watchdog groups to let it pass.
And what then would you consider a "real" news source? Fox News? The New York Post? The Weekly World News?
Being "published" and having a lot of money behind it does not automatically make a source credible...
And has that scrutiny aided the accuracy - or reputation - of Fox or the Post? No, because that sort of "reporting" still has a market. For an extreme example of that, witness the National Enquirer and its ilk - sure some people read them just for the amusement factor, but there are plenty who actually believe everything they print. I don't think you'll find many publications that have had anywhere NEAR as much scrutiny, or ridicule, as your basic Supermarket Tabloid... yet they continue on their merry way as well.
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