This game scares the hell out of me, must resist or I'm screwed. Bioware + Star Wars MMO? My life will become consumed, and I thought WoW was bad the half of a year I played it. Lynx or anyone else one here has permission to kick my but if I go near this thing.
By the way, another amazing Blur cinematic, one of my top dream jobs. Blur. They always have the best SIGGRAPH parties too, or so I've heard, they're impossible to get into to—last time they had Carmen Electra performing.
I am not an MMO player, but this may be the game to turn me....
One thing I wonder, from a point of balance in the persistent world. Who is going to want to be a Wookie, or a Droid, or a Moisture Farmer when you can be Jedi or Sith? Balance issues?
That being said, I am not sure I have ever seen a better crafted game trailer. Amazing stuff.
The game will have PvP content, but it will primarily be PvE. It is intended to play like an MMO version of KotOR. That game emphasized that all roles can excel and become a hero, and there are numerous encounters in Star Wars canon that account for that.
What seems odd to me is that in an MMO how can everyone be the hero? Guild Wars pulls it off by doing isolated player stories with a group meetup function. This is sounding like they are kinda trying to do the same think. Deliver a KoTOR experience but you can have other people in your group instead of all NPC.
While that kind of game is certainly fun to play. I'm not sure if it's $16 a month fun to play. DDO did sorta the same thing. Everyone gets to experience the Dungeons and be the hero in your small groups and the only reall MMO experience is in the larger meetup areas in the cities where you can't really do anything but interact on a benign level. Lots of people feel that DDO is basically the same game as Guild Wars and not worth the monthly for that reason. The only reall group experience is a dungeon run.
i've already sold my soul to Blizzard, i don't know what else i have to give for this game. my first born child? my left arm? i can't wait to try it out and see how much my social life will suffer!
But I never will. I can't stand MMORPGs. I just can't figure it out. I love massive RPGs, I love playing online with people, but when you mix the two, I can't get into it.
I've tried so many. I didn't find any of them to be compelling. Star Wars or not, I'm sure this one would be to different.
I want to reserve judgment so badly, but KOTOR I & II were so good, and I'm the biggest SW nerd on Icrontic, and I want a good SW game so badly, and and and and and...
But I fear like most franchise MMOs that it will have no end-game content. You will get to the end of it all and there will be nothing to do. It happened to SWG, DDO, LoTRO and any other big franchise MMO that can be named.
End-game content is critical to the success of an MMO, and that's why WoW has done so well, and why EQ did so well before that. Both MMOs are constantly pushing advancement that transcends the leveling experience. More content = dedicated subscribers.
I want to reserve judgment so badly, but KOTOR I & II were so good, and I'm the biggest SW nerd on Icrontic, and I want a good SW game so badly, and and and and and...
But I fear like most franchise MMOs that it will have no end-game content. You will get to the end of it all and there will be nothing to do. It happened to SWG, DDO, LoTRO and any other big franchise MMO that can be named.
End-game content is critical to the success of an MMO, and that's why WoW has done so well, and why EQ did so well before that. Both MMOs are constantly pushing advancement that transcends the leveling experience. More content = dedicated subscribers.
Biggest Star Wars nerd here you say.
I'll see your Salacious Crumb and raise you Joruus C'baoth
I want my tombstone to say "Awaiting Mt. Tantiss."
Creative, I like it! The only question is how many Thrax's can the world handle at once. I do believe the mountain had the capacity to create thousands.
But I fear like most franchise MMOs that it will have no end-game content. You will get to the end of it all and there will be nothing to do. It happened to SWG, DDO, LoTRO and any other big franchise MMO that can be named.
End-game content is critical to the success of an MMO, and that's why WoW has done so well, and why EQ did so well before that. Both MMOs are constantly pushing advancement that transcends the leveling experience. More content = dedicated subscribers.
You know though I almost wouldn't mind if there wasn't much of an endgame. Only because I would then be assured that rather than continually wasting a large chunk of my life on an ever-increasing endgame I would only waste a large chunk of my life until I reached the "end," after which I could slowly reintegrate myself back into society.
I can't see the trailer (curse you, work) but I'd worry about this game having the same problems that SWG ran into- copyrights stuff with George Cannotletgoofstarwars Lucas had.
My friends and I have talked about this game quite a bit. We think it is the only MMO coming out soon that can potentially be a WoW killer/competitor. Star Wars has enough nerd intellectual property to pull anything off.
The fact remains that good Star Wars games are, unfortunately, the exception, rather than the rule. JKII: JO, X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter, KOTOR I, KOTOR II and some of the Rogue Squadrons are really th only ones that come to mind.
You know though I almost wouldn't mind if there wasn't much of an endgame. Only because I would then be assured that rather than continually wasting a large chunk of my life on an ever-increasing endgame I would only waste a large chunk of my life until I reached the "end," after which I could slowly reintegrate myself back into society.
I know you're largely being facetious, but as a player I can easily separate RL from the MMO. There is a reason why I continued to be active in IRC, write articles, and post on Icrontic... In fact, most people had no idea that I played WoW until my final year of play. The point is that I am good at distancing myself from a game -- any game -- and I hope the opportunity to do end-game content is there. Sucks for the people who can't figure out what that weird "x" button does in the corner of the window.
I can't see the trailer (curse you, work) but I'd worry about this game having the same problems that SWG ran into- copyrights stuff with George Cannotletgoofstarwars Lucas had.
SWG was epic in its awfulness.
I think this KOTOR era game will give the developers much more freedom to tell a unique story and ultimately be in full creative control.
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I'd like even more to see gameplay.
By the way, another amazing Blur cinematic, one of my top dream jobs. Blur. They always have the best SIGGRAPH parties too, or so I've heard, they're impossible to get into to—last time they had Carmen Electra performing.
One thing I wonder, from a point of balance in the persistent world. Who is going to want to be a Wookie, or a Droid, or a Moisture Farmer when you can be Jedi or Sith? Balance issues?
That being said, I am not sure I have ever seen a better crafted game trailer. Amazing stuff.
While that kind of game is certainly fun to play. I'm not sure if it's $16 a month fun to play. DDO did sorta the same thing. Everyone gets to experience the Dungeons and be the hero in your small groups and the only reall MMO experience is in the larger meetup areas in the cities where you can't really do anything but interact on a benign level. Lots of people feel that DDO is basically the same game as Guild Wars and not worth the monthly for that reason. The only reall group experience is a dungeon run.
I'm ok with that, its like almost every other MMO out there at this juncture.
That said, I get the impression this could be a badass game.
i've already sold my soul to Blizzard, i don't know what else i have to give for this game. my first born child? my left arm? i can't wait to try it out and see how much my social life will suffer!
But I never will. I can't stand MMORPGs. I just can't figure it out. I love massive RPGs, I love playing online with people, but when you mix the two, I can't get into it.
I've tried so many. I didn't find any of them to be compelling. Star Wars or not, I'm sure this one would be to different.
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But I fear like most franchise MMOs that it will have no end-game content. You will get to the end of it all and there will be nothing to do. It happened to SWG, DDO, LoTRO and any other big franchise MMO that can be named.
End-game content is critical to the success of an MMO, and that's why WoW has done so well, and why EQ did so well before that. Both MMOs are constantly pushing advancement that transcends the leveling experience. More content = dedicated subscribers.
Biggest Star Wars nerd here you say.
I'll see your Salacious Crumb and raise you Joruus C'baoth
Creative, I like it! The only question is how many Thrax's can the world handle at once. I do believe the mountain had the capacity to create thousands.
You know though I almost wouldn't mind if there wasn't much of an endgame. Only because I would then be assured that rather than continually wasting a large chunk of my life on an ever-increasing endgame I would only waste a large chunk of my life until I reached the "end," after which I could slowly reintegrate myself back into society.
The fact remains that good Star Wars games are, unfortunately, the exception, rather than the rule. JKII: JO, X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter, KOTOR I, KOTOR II and some of the Rogue Squadrons are really th only ones that come to mind.
I know you're largely being facetious, but as a player I can easily separate RL from the MMO. There is a reason why I continued to be active in IRC, write articles, and post on Icrontic... In fact, most people had no idea that I played WoW until my final year of play. The point is that I am good at distancing myself from a game -- any game -- and I hope the opportunity to do end-game content is there. Sucks for the people who can't figure out what that weird "x" button does in the corner of the window.
SWG was epic in its awfulness.
I think this KOTOR era game will give the developers much more freedom to tell a unique story and ultimately be in full creative control.