Question About Windows Vista

JemyJemy
edited September 2009 in Science & Tech
Hello all out there

I am thinking to upgrade to Windows Vista Home Priem but i am not sure if it will run smoothly and without hangs and also dose almost all games released between 2007 - 2009 work on it ?

Here My PC data

Motherboard :- Gigabyte S-series GA-G31-S3L [Writes on the packet certified for vista]

CPU :- Intel Core 2 Due E4600 [2.4 GHz]

GPU :- Geforce Nvidia 9400 GT 1 GB Version

Ram :- 2 GB [Will upgrade this days to 3 or 4 ]

Thanks & Peace :rockon:


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  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Jemy wrote:
    Hello all out there

    I am thinking to upgrade to Windows Vista Home Priem but i am not sure if it will run smoothly and without hangs and also dose almost all games released between 2007 - 2009 work on it ?

    Here My PC data

    Motherboard :- Gigabyte S-series GA-G31-S3L [Writes on the packet certified for vista]

    CPU :- Intel Core 2 Due E4600 [2.4 GHz]

    GPU :- Geforce Nvidia 9400 GT 1 GB Version

    Ram :- 2 GB [Will upgrade this days to 3 or 4 ]

    Thanks & Peace :rockon:


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    Windows 7 drops in less than two months, and its soooo much better and leaner, and just all around wonderful. Don't bother with the Vista upgrade unless you really require it right now. Wait for 7, I have been running the release candidate and I have run it on a range of hardware, your specs will run 7 brilliantly.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Agreed. Do NOT waste your time or money on Vista right now. 7 is JUST around the corner, and it is way, way, way better
  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Hey... as a Vista Certified Technician....




    Wait for Windows 7 ;D
  • mtroxmtrox Minnesota
    edited September 2009
    How good is 7 guys? I've just run it on a virtual machine......not a very good test. Is it more stable than Vista (one of my major gripes)? Is it faster (another major gripe)?
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Vista was never really unstable for me (much better than XP x64, for certain), but it's at least as stable, and probably a lot better given your apparent experiences, and it feels faster along with actually being faster. Most of the benchmarks say it does things as fast or faster than even XP, with a rare exception (in which cases it's still faster than Vista).
  • AnnesAnnes Tripped Up by Libidos and Hubris Alexandria, VA Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    mtrox wrote:
    How good is 7 guys? I've just run it on a virtual machine......not a very good test. Is it more stable than Vista (one of my major gripes)? Is it faster (another major gripe)?

    Yes and yes. If you do a search for Windows 7 here at IC you'll see loads and loads of people singing its praises.
  • mtroxmtrox Minnesota
    edited September 2009
    Annes wrote:
    If you do a search for Windows 7 here at IC you'll see loads and loads of people singing its praises.

    I've seen that. But Vista leaves me very skeptical. I'm thinking of upgrading my ThinkPad from XP Pro to 7 Pro, but I really need the damn thing to work. I can't be a Microsoft test dummy.
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Come off it. Nobody here liked Vista, and everybody likes 7. You're not going to be the only one that has a problem with it.
  • HawkHawk Fla Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    I have had Win XP Home on 2 pc's and Win XP Pro on 2 pc's since it came out.
    I ran Vista RC on a 5th pc for quite awhile.
    I'm running the full version Vista Home Premium on the 5th pc since it came out.
    I also have a laptop a few mnths old with Vista Home Premium on it.
    I have been running Win 7 RC on 2 of these pcs since it became available.
    One pc on duel boot Xp/Win7 RC.
    The other is a clean install of the Win7 RC.
    I've got Win 7 64-bit ready to load on a new pc build I'm making and haven't got around to doing yet.
    I posted all this just to let you know, I'm not new to different OS's.
    I'm very pleased to say I like Win 7 over Vista or XP.
    I believe it is more stable than Vista.
    It feels much smoother than XP or Vista.
    It is much easier to install than any previous MS OS.
    I run all my office programs for the business with no problems.
    I do all my gaming on the Win 7 pc's now with no hiccups.
    There was a little learning curve with the UI at first which is to be expected with any new OS.
    It took a few days getting used to the interface to find everything.
    I'm so pleased with Win 7 that I have pre-purchased 4 copies of Win 7 Home Premium upgrade for my desktops pc's.
    And got the Win 7 Home Premium upgrade for my Laptop.
    $220 for 5 pc's. Not too bad as pricing goes.
    As a matter of fact, my laptop upgrade should be here tomorrow.
    Got an email confirmation 3-4 days ago that is was shipped.
  • mtroxmtrox Minnesota
    edited September 2009
    Are you guys running 7 in 64 bit? I assume it's more stable than XP 64?
  • HawkHawk Fla Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    At the moment I'm running the 32 bit version on all of mine.
    I've got the 64-bit RC ready for a new build, but haven't installed yet.
    So, I'll let the others who have it running in 64-bit reply to that.
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Yes, x64 7 is much more stable and supported than XP x64 in every way.
  • mtroxmtrox Minnesota
    edited September 2009
    OK. If I'm going to do it, I want to go 64. I have a client running SolidWorks on XP 64....I'd say it's been un-even.....
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    I've been running 7/64 for a couple of months now, and my computer hasn't been this stable in years. It's perfect.
  • AlexDeGruvenAlexDeGruven Wut? Meechigan Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Snarkasm wrote:
    Come off it. Nobody here liked Vista, and everybody likes 7. You're not going to be the only one that has a problem with it.

    This is not really true post SP1. The issues that were resolved in SP1 fixed about 85% of the complaints people had about Vista. Couple that with the nastiness that was the 'Vista Capable' logo shite, and it's pretty easy to see where Vista's problems came for.

    Vista itself is a perfectly fine OS. It's strong, stable, and fast (provided you're running it on hardware that's ACTUALLY capable). Post SP1, it was my default OS for home and work computers.

    That being said. 7 is faster, lighter, and stronger than Vista and in some cases, even XP.

    If you really need to buy a retail OS for a computer, go ahead and get Vista, provided the retailer is giving the free upgrade coupons. That will keep you from trying to run XP, which will take you longer on Windows Update than it will for the OS to launch.

    Otherwise, wait for 7.
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Alex forgets that I was nearly the only Vista defender on these boards for 2 years. :) I still think it's fine for me - I was generalizing that it felt like nobody except me thought it was worth the DVD it was printed on. Everybody who crapped on Vista loves 7, and everybody who didn't crap on Vista loves 7. You will love 7.
  • AlexDeGruvenAlexDeGruven Wut? Meechigan Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Snarkasm wrote:
    Alex forgets that I was nearly the only Vista defender on these boards for 2 years. :) I still think it's fine for me - I was generalizing that it felt like nobody except me thought it was worth the DVD it was printed on. Everybody who crapped on Vista loves 7, and everybody who didn't crap on Vista loves 7. You will love 7.

    I get ya now. I guess I've just spent too much time defending Vista against the people who only listen to Apple marketing.
  • lordbeanlordbean Ontario, Canada
    edited September 2009
    Much as I hate endorsing Vista, I have to say that post-SP1, I agree with Snark / Alex. It's very stable, and as long as the PC has sufficient hardware to handle it, quite fast too. It has some junk services that need to be turned off, but after that, the OS does work pretty well.

    That said, I'm still upgrading to Win7 as soon as I can get my hands on a retail copy.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Some of us believe that an OS which must be qualified with "as long as the PC has sufficient hardware to handle it" makes for a shitty OS, particularly when its successor hardly suffers from the same issue.
  • lordbeanlordbean Ontario, Canada
    edited September 2009
    Thrax wrote:
    Some of us believe that an OS which must be qualified with "as long as the PC has sufficient hardware to handle it" makes for a shitty OS, particularly when its successor hardly suffers from the same issue.

    I won't disagree here, but the fact remains that given primarily a lot of RAM, Vista is a stable and very usable OS.

    I did once or twice try to revert to Windows XP on my gaming PC. The results were not pretty. Possibly due to the extra complication of having two graphics cards in the PC, I could not get the system to run games without blue-screening under windows XP. I had no such trouble with Vista.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Given that SLI and Crossfire were conceived when Vista was but a twinkle in Microsoft's eye, I suspect the OS was most likely not the culprit.
  • mtroxmtrox Minnesota
    edited September 2009
    AlexDeGruven wrote:
    I guess I've just spent too much time defending Vista against the people who only listen to Apple marketing.

    I think Apple has their own problems. Seems there's some people having issues with Snow Leopard. Word on the forums is that Apple just left out a file you need with some LCD's. There are also quite a few posts from people who just can't boot up after the upgrade. It's too early to say that Apple has met it's Vista, but after only a week or two, there seem to be a lot of posts out there.

    My brother upgraded to Snow Leopard a week ago. He's spending the day reformatting and building from scratch.
  • AlexDeGruvenAlexDeGruven Wut? Meechigan Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Thrax wrote:
    Some of us believe that an OS which must be qualified with "as long as the PC has sufficient hardware to handle it" makes for a shitty OS, particularly when its successor hardly suffers from the same issue.


    I place the blame for this squarely on Microsoft and PC makers' marketing teams. As I said, the 'Vista Capable' logo certification was quite simply retarded and was the source for a lot of the bad press about Vista.

    Couple that with the fact that Microsoft simply sat by and watched Apple and other detractors tear the OS to shreds on mass media and the web, and you've got for a serious PR problem that really has yet to be resolved.

    Some of the crap I've heard has made me simply :eek:
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Lemme put it another way: When I moved from Windows 98 to Windows 2000, it ran swimmingly. My experience improved. When I moved from Windows 2000 to Windows XP, it ran swimmingly. My experience improved. When I moved from Windows XP to Windows Vista, I got this nightmare.

    I know why enterprises wait until the first service pack, but that is a patience no desktop user should need. Microsoft failed in the worst way with Vista, and Windows 7's appearance a full 6-8 months ahead of schedule is a tacit acknowledgment.

    Vista didn't just suffer from perception problems. It created them with crap code.
  • ardichokeardichoke Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    It's a testament to how bad Vista is that they still haven't rolled it out at my old job. I was a student system administrator at my college for the administration department. They always had to have the latest and greatest software and usually rolled any new OS out once it hit SP1. I still talk to my old boss and to this day they still don't have Vista out, they wipe Vista from all new computers and put the good ole XP SP3 on them.
  • mtroxmtrox Minnesota
    edited September 2009
    AlexDeGruven wrote:
    I place the blame for this squarely on Microsoft and PC makers' marketing teams...you've got for a serious PR problem that really has yet to be resolved.

    The problem isn't resolved because it's not just a perception problem. Even SP1 Vista is bad. I watch that spinning wheel way too much. It's much harder to do phone support on Vista (tell a novice how to get to network connections over the phone on Vista), I could go on and on. And Microsoft's "Mohave" commercials that maintained the users were all wrong made me dislike Vista even more. Users were right: Microsoft was wrong.
  • miragemirage
    edited September 2009
    mtrox wrote:
    It's much harder to do phone support on Vista (tell a novice how to get to network connections over the phone on Vista),

    I feel your pain :eek3:
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    Mojave wasn't saying that the users were wrong. It was pointing out that most of the people that hated Vista hated it solely because somebody told them to hate it, not because of the actual content of the release.

    Vista suffered for two reasons and two reasons only: not enough time to optimize like has clearly been done in 7, and crap drivers at the infancy of its life cycle. nVidia and ATi drivers crashing systems at the outset because they couldn't be bothered to put out legitimate drivers wrecked any chance people had of being accommodating to the software.

    Once you got to SP1, they had improved the optimization aspect and given it some more quickness, and drivers had obviously adapted to the new model by that time (except for YOU, Creative, you jerks). The only problem was that by the time those all happened, every geek in the world told every. single. one. of. their. friends. and. neighbors. to get the hell off of Vista and never look back.

    A major component of it was rushed code, but the grass-roots PR war is what ultimately buried it. They'll never recover that, and they know it.
  • mtroxmtrox Minnesota
    edited September 2009
    Snark you give two good reasons Vista failed. But I think Thrax summed it up well when he said that 98 to 2000, the experience improved. 2000 to XP the experience improved. XP to Vista? Not so much. I remember the early driver problems with XP, but we could all tell this was going to get us somewhere. We didn't feel that way with Vista.

    I understand your point. There are many people loyal to a computing platform "designed in California" based on good marketing and hype...and there's no reason to believe hype isn't in play the other direction with Vista and its problems. But that doesn't mean there aren't problems and that they aren't real. I could make a list, but we've all seen that list. My bottom line, I can do things in XP in 2 clicks that take 5 or 6 clicks in Vista.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2009
    All I know is that my dad, who at 63 is just now becoming slightly computer saavy, has had vista for about a month now, and all he keeps saying is "Why doesn't this crap just work? What is this Vista? It sucks! Why did they change it from Windows?"

    What he means is: He had a fundamental and basic understanding of XP, and now with Vista he has more difficulty doing the rudimentary tasks that he is used to. Also his (much newer) computer runs slower than his old one, and it crashes doing things like selecting all photos in a folder and copying them to Flickr Uploader.

    None of these things happened in XP. I'm sure there are valid reasons for all of his issues, but they don't matter: What matters is that his impression of Vista is completely ruined.
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