this kind of reminds me of the first via chipset i owned. it was a PIII mobo. it sucked. it would randomly reboot, or freeze, most frustratingly during CD burning sometimes ;[ , it would all around weirdness. I exchanged it for an abit SA6, which had an intel chipset and it stopped. I don't trust VIA's first time chipset efforts.
I dont know.. haven't had the time to even think about overclocking it. Won't be trying until Thursday night. Il let you know. If it clocks like a mofo, then we have a clue its board related.
I dont know.. haven't had the time to even think about overclocking it. Won't be trying until Thursday night. Il let you know. If it clocks like a mofo, then we have a clue its board related.
To be honest, the Twinmos is MUCH better RAM. It reaches 220, and it can do 200 at max timings (cept for CMD) where as this Kingston barely reaches it's rated speed and has NO leway at all. Basically it's crap.
1 stick of 512MB Twinmos with BH-5 = £50
2 sticks of 256MB Kingston Hyper-X = £85
What a waste of money. Either way, I needed new RAM for the other PC so something had to be bought.
Doesn't matter. 2 seconds after making that post, the machine froze. I'm out of ideas to be honest. I now have a rig that I just spent £310 that just doesn't work. Even if I could return the motherboard, firstly they may say nothing is wrong with it and even if they did, what's to say another motherboard is going to work? and second, I am stuck with the processor anyway, which I wouldn't be able to return as I don't have a reason which I think they would find valid.
I haven't reinstalled yet. I am just trying with this new AMD driver from.... er.... AMD.
Strange thing is, these freezes .... ARGGHH.... YOUR BASTARDS ARE MOCKING ME. TO HELL WITH YOU ALL.
I was saying "the freezes are getting more and more rare" up till the point IT FROZE WHILE I WAS WRITING THE WORD "FREEZE"! AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH.
Reinstalling....
(Shorty: Does yours still freeze up? If so try running knoppix for as long as you can stand and see if it still does it)
The ABIT forum isn't being useful at all.
Hmm..... it may be worth seeing if I can return the motherboard and get a different one as people seem to be having issues running it any higher than 200Mhz FSB (even though it defaults to 204).
If you aren't the only one with this problem with the ABIT board... perhaps it is worth returning it. As much as you may hate them, Im finding the MSI now as stable as a rock... but I haven't had time to try overclocking it.. so dont quote me on it's ability to do so
Problem is, most places over here give you a replacement board, not your money back, so what am I going to do? I'll just end up with a board that wont even run at stock.
Ok, do a test. Contact Komplett (was it Komplett you got it from?) and RMA it. Il loan you my spare Socket 754 board. Try it for a few days and let me know?
Nope, not stable at stock, it still just locks up randomly at some point or another.
Already requested a refund on the motherboard stating that a replacement would be useless as it seems to be an issue with that specific board (obviously in a lot more words).
(Please keep the subject when replying to this mail. This is NOT an RMA no. Das ist
keine RMA-Nr. Sollten Sie diese Mail beantworten, behalten Sie bitte den Inhalt
bei.)
Dear Sir,
Let me know the order number and I'll see if I can arrange this.
Best regards
Komplett
Quite fast. Lets just hope they accept it.... though, what am I going to wrap the parts back up in? (as the old bags have to be torn open).
Any idea when the new sets of Motherboards are coming out?
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Straight_ManGeeky, in my own wayNaples, FLIcrontian
edited January 2004
Not to intrude, but I do this with a defective RMA:
1. Inner wrap is any antistat bag I can properly fit the motherboard in-- then shipping tape seals your antistat envelope.
2. Layer on that is 2 thick of small bubbles bubblewrap or one of large bubbles bubblewrap. If no bubblewrap, twice the thickness of styrofoam or closed cell foam peanuts. Foam sheets top and bottom, can be used to make motherboard not settle down to bottom of package also, and antistat wrap will protect from static if taped well. Tape tear or cut (I slice open antistat envelopes and save them, if cannot tear through the labels they come with) with packaging tape if no other antistat bag, and tape so edges overlap 4-5 mm minimum if can.
3. Whole thing then gets a layer of peanuts all around at least 12 mm thick, preferably 25 mm.
4. I have been known to cut boxes that are too tall down in height, make flaps bigger or bend to square and then cut flaps to size.
5. Forget to mention this is a defective, insure for full value plus shipping cost to and from-- full net invoice plus shipping once again (once more,for any US lurkers) over. Signature delivery required. If they lose it you get full recompense for your (easily) provable costs.
Possible bad batch, possible bad power circuits. MSI actually does decent QC, not the best OCers but is overall typically decent.
I have created and approved your RMA request for you.
The request has been given RMA no: 700003739
Please mark this clearly on the inside and outside of the package. Then please
return to the address below:
Komplett.co.uk
c/o PFWW
Siskin Parkway West
Middlemarch Business Park
Coventry, CV98 9XX
Instructions.
1) Attach a copy of the RMA confirmation to the item.
2) Ensure that you pack the item securely!
3) Mark the parcel clearly with all RMA numbers. Shipments sent without RMA
numbers will be subject to a delay while they are investigated.
4) Send the parcel to the address above. Due to the nature of these goods,
we recommend the use of Royal Mail-Recorded Signed for service.
5) Please note that parcels are sent to us at your expense.
Returning the parcel back to you will be at Komplett's.
6) When we receive the parcel we test the item, repair it if possible or exchange it.
7) Computer parts are sensitive to electrostatic discharges please
place in "Antistatic" bags in order to keep the warranty valid!
Hope this helps.
Best regards
Komplett
If they give me a refund, I think I will wait for the gen 2 boards. If they return it back to me, I will end up being out of pocket and having lost time, and same goes for if they send me a new one.
I'm not having any trouble with my dual Opteron rig. The only crap it gave me was from my now-RMA'ed All in Wonder 9700 Pro. Third time I've had to send that card back to ATI, so I'm not real impressed with their QC.
Having said that, i might order from the states and have my aunt send it to me. A mainboard/3200+ A64 is like half price compared to here (at least the combo i MIGHT want) since the dollar is low compared to local money. I'm piling up on BH5 in the mean time. 10 sticks on it's way. Yay!
Comments
The 2nd Gen Chipsets and Mobos will be better (KT133A, KT266A, NForce2....)
To be honest, the Twinmos is MUCH better RAM. It reaches 220, and it can do 200 at max timings (cept for CMD) where as this Kingston barely reaches it's rated speed and has NO leway at all. Basically it's crap.
1 stick of 512MB Twinmos with BH-5 = £50
2 sticks of 256MB Kingston Hyper-X = £85
What a waste of money. Either way, I needed new RAM for the other PC so something had to be bought.
No lockups so far.
If it does perform, I swap it with you, makes no odds to me. I dont have much time on my hands to sit and overclock for 4-5 hours at a time.. heh
I'm guessing those don't work with AMD Opteron processors.
-drasnor
Strange thing is, these freezes .... ARGGHH.... YOUR BASTARDS ARE MOCKING ME. TO HELL WITH YOU ALL.
I was saying "the freezes are getting more and more rare" up till the point IT FROZE WHILE I WAS WRITING THE WORD "FREEZE"! AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH.
Reinstalling....
(Shorty: Does yours still freeze up? If so try running knoppix for as long as you can stand and see if it still does it)
The ABIT forum isn't being useful at all.
I have a drive that is poorly. I dumped all the data off it last nite and since then.. Ive not had a freeze.
Ok, do a test. Contact Komplett (was it Komplett you got it from?) and RMA it. Il loan you my spare Socket 754 board. Try it for a few days and let me know?
Already requested a refund on the motherboard stating that a replacement would be useless as it seems to be an issue with that specific board (obviously in a lot more words).
Only if it as SATA otherwise I won't be able to use it....
http://www.biostar.com.tw/products/mainboard/board.php3?name=K8NHA%20Pro
Quite fast. Lets just hope they accept it.... though, what am I going to wrap the parts back up in? (as the old bags have to be torn open).
Any idea when the new sets of Motherboards are coming out?
1. Inner wrap is any antistat bag I can properly fit the motherboard in-- then shipping tape seals your antistat envelope.
2. Layer on that is 2 thick of small bubbles bubblewrap or one of large bubbles bubblewrap. If no bubblewrap, twice the thickness of styrofoam or closed cell foam peanuts. Foam sheets top and bottom, can be used to make motherboard not settle down to bottom of package also, and antistat wrap will protect from static if taped well. Tape tear or cut (I slice open antistat envelopes and save them, if cannot tear through the labels they come with) with packaging tape if no other antistat bag, and tape so edges overlap 4-5 mm minimum if can.
3. Whole thing then gets a layer of peanuts all around at least 12 mm thick, preferably 25 mm.
4. I have been known to cut boxes that are too tall down in height, make flaps bigger or bend to square and then cut flaps to size.
5. Forget to mention this is a defective, insure for full value plus shipping cost to and from-- full net invoice plus shipping once again (once more,for any US lurkers) over. Signature delivery required. If they lose it you get full recompense for your (easily) provable costs.
Possible bad batch, possible bad power circuits. MSI actually does decent QC, not the best OCers but is overall typically decent.
John.
If they give me a refund, I think I will wait for the gen 2 boards. If they return it back to me, I will end up being out of pocket and having lost time, and same goes for if they send me a new one.
-drasnor
Guess so.
-drasnor
Does that mean you dont need mine anymore???