XP-M name string "unrecognized processor" - how to change?

GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
edited January 2004 in Hardware
I just bought an Athlon XP-M 2400+ on the Barton core due to the thread about it posted here. I've had great results from it, but I'd like to be able to change the name string that shows up in BIOS and in Windows - is there a way to do this? I'd assume that the NF7-S BIOS is simply unable to recognize an XP-M, for obvious reasons...

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  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Yeah, you'd probably have to find a hacked BIOS out there somewhere, which I wouldn't trust anyway.....
  • croc_croc_ New
    edited January 2004
    Hmm, with those, do you just pop them in and go? And are they unlocked?
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Yup! Unlocked - but I wouldn't do much more than 1.75VCore on it. Seems like they're usually good for around 2.4GHz with good cooling though.

    Prime - thanks for the info - I wouldn't trust a hacked BIOS either...
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    GHoosdum wrote:
    I just bought an Athlon XP-M 2400+ on the Barton core due to the thread about it posted here. I've had great results from it, but I'd like to be able to change the name string that shows up in BIOS and in Windows - is there a way to do this? I'd assume that the NF7-S BIOS is simply unable to recognize an XP-M, for obvious reasons...

    Try timing the thing manually and setting the autorecognize to user or manual, and set the voltage to about 1.55-1.60 to start. It might run stock at 1.55(I suspect it wants about .1 Vcc under normal XP, and undervoltaging will have advantage of less heat gen also). Also, see what BIOS rev you have, and if you have version 17 or under, might try version 18. Version 2.0 specific updates for BIOS link below, not notes about what flasher to use, please. Also see the notes about SoftmenuIII if you flash to version 18.

    BIOS Update Link:

    http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/bios/bios_revision1.php?categories=1&model=124

    John.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Actually, stock VCore is 1.45 on the thing - VERY cool at 'stock' clocks...

    It runs great, but just doesn't have a name. I've noticed that the NF7-S doesn't like to apply name strings even for standard clocks if you go into manual settings mode... on my A7N8X series boards, it puts in a name string based on the settings you give it. For example, my XP2100+ read as an XP2700+ at boot when I bumped the FSB up to 166 in the Asus board, but in the NF7-S, my XP2500+ showed up as "Athlon XP 2210 MHz" or something, when I set it to 11x200 manually...

    At any rate, I've got another XP-M coming in from Newegg today or tomorrow, and I'm going to put it in my Asus board and see if it applies a name string...
  • leishi85leishi85 Grand Rapids, MI Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    so how's the current athlon m's doing??
    i'm little interested in buying some.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    So far, my XP-M 2400+ is the best Barton I've had for OCing. Does 2.3GHz cooler and at lower VCore than either the XP2500+ or the XP2600+ that I had.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited January 2004
    I assume these are in the old package, so they can be SMP'd, right?
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Actually, the one I got is on the new packaging, just unlocked - which is a necessity for the M processors, I'm assuming, since they have to scale speed for battery life.
  • croc_croc_ New
    edited January 2004
    yummy........
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Can you choose multipliers higher than 12.5x? I have an NF7 but my RAM won't do much more than stock pc2700.
  • croc_croc_ New
    edited January 2004
    Yeah whats the limits of this thing, I am really close to buying one right now. Whats the highest fsb / multi can you run stable?
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    I'll push the limits tonight and see what happens...
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    u probably will never get it to list as the correct cpu in bios unless u find a hacked version of some sort
    u have to manually set them in bios cause the auto-detect will always boot with a 6x multiplier...usually 6x100 or 6x133..
    like GHoosdum said these puppies run default at 1.45v, with the 2400+ thats 1.80g and the 2500+ is 1.86g. they have a 266fsb, but do come with 512k L2 cache.
    overall these are great if u want 2.3-2.4 using only 1.7-1.85v..newegg has em $86-$96..
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Gargoyle wrote:
    Can you choose multipliers higher than 12.5x? I have an NF7 but my RAM won't do much more than stock pc2700.

    u can use whatever multiplier ur mobo supports upto...like mine hits 22x so i could run 22x100...but that wouldnt be logical
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Ok, the BIOS flash idea was based on this, in the BIOS rev 18 notes for the version 2 NF7-S...

    One of the things they fixed, was a 2500+ being sometimes misrecognized as a 3200+-- so the recognition table had at least that error in it.

    Good that you can run that low for woltages, GHoosdum, my Barton 2500+ non-M runs at 1.625 Vcc per BIOS (manual), with 3.3 Voltage slightly under at 3.24, so it is on average getting 1.59 Vcc in (I run mbm 5 and look for average over a few days, floats between 3.22 and 3.24 actual per MBM 5). Nominal range seems to be 1.60-1.65 for the Barton 2500+, so I figured at least .1 under that for the mobile. Nice they were able to get it to run lower yet, or you were. That is 91% of the voltage I need for stability, versus low end of what I use nominally. BIOS on my board set it to 1.65, a tib high for what this Barton CPU needs.

    The CPU settings on Awards have been known to be by MHz, techncially my Barton is table recognized as a 2600+ right now, and that is running at 2070 MHz on a lowly MSI KT4VL board, with a non-Award BIOS. Essentially, the BIOSs bench to read what to say, soem run tables and those which are real tweakable sometimes use the space for tweak code that other BIOSs use for a name table. Unrecognized means yours has a name table but now full match in CPU. Can't guarantee the BIOS flash will fix yours, but they have had three other flashes since that version also, for the version 2.0 board.

    And every one of them fixed a table problem, some resulting in no-boots with certain AMD processors or minor table tweaks.

    I actually, for some things, HATE Award BIOSs, though I live with them for other things they do that other BIOSs do not do-- in this case OC tuning.

    You might also, later, see if your 3.3 volt line from PSU is feeding 3.3 purely(very rare, most PSUs float some) or is low or high on average, and I would be interested to know which.

    John.
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited January 2004
    John, the problem with the nf2 boards not recognizing the proc with a proper name string has to do with the way the bridges are cut on the L5 bridges. A guy over on the overclockers.com forums was trying to run 2 of them in his K7D dual rig and it would only boot up using 1 proc. The normal L5 bridge that is usually cut on the XP procs is connected, but another 1 of the L5 bridges (don't remember exactly which one) that is normally connected is cut on the mobile XP procs. When he connected that cut L5 bridge, his K7D then was able to recognize the procs as MP's and booted up using both procs. I would have to go search over there for that thread so that I could see which of the L5 bridges needs to be connected so that the boards will properly recognize the procs as XP's.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Interesting, mud.

    I just received my second one of these processors, and I'm beginning to think my memory failed me on the first one. It seems that this second one is on the old packaging, and it's week 0323. The first is a week 0325, and on second thought I don't think they made processors with the new packaging then. But I could swear it looked like the new packaging! Something's going wrong in my head, I believe...

    I'm going to stick the second one in my secondary rig. And Geeky, since it's on the old packaging, this one's definitely SMP-capable with the L5 mod.
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