3d2003 won't complete

rykoryko new york
edited January 2004 in Hardware
Hello everyone,

Here it is my first post... I have been checking out short-media for a while but finally decided to sign up last week :cool: Anyway, here's the deal...

3d2003 build 340 gives me this error message:

FMOD error in FSOUND_SetVolume: An invalid parameter was passed to this function

Here's my system specs

abit ai7
p4 2.8c @ 3.2
1gb geil golden dragon ddr433 @ ddr466 (2.5-3-3-7)
ati radeon 9600pro 485/320 -- using cat 3.10
creative sb live! 5.1
2 x wd 80gb SE ide
2 x maxtor 120gb (8mb) ide->sata
win xp pro sp1

I have previously completed 3d2003 before with everything the exact same. I have the latest sb live! drivers, and i also ran windows update. I even tried unistall/reinstall to no avail. I guess i could try the new cat4.1's but i heard they are slower than the 3.10s, any truth to this? But it's gotta be with the sound card so i don't think the new CAT's will make a difference.

Any suggestions?

Comments

  • rykoryko new york
    edited January 2004
    Well gee, I am overwhelmed by the number of responses....so many different suggestions. Anyway you all probably think i am some n00b who doesn't know his arse from his elbow, but tis not true. I fixed this problem on my own by unistalling the newest creative drivers and then physically removing my sb live! to a different pci slot and reinstalling the sb drivers. Now it works like a charm. :rockon: Could anybody tell me why this happened? Could i have removed something with a spyware removal app or something?
  • BlackHawkBlackHawk Bible music connoisseur There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    IRQ conflict? Maybe you could've tried to clear the cmos. Screwed driver? Could've been any number of things. Sorry didn't respond earlier :)
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited January 2004
    try running it with the sound tests disabled, i'd be interested to see whether it completes or not (if that was in your original post, sorry)

    its possible you had a pci slot going bad, i've had that happen with nic's before
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited January 2004
    Actually, in all honesty, I didn't bother reading the thread before now because I have never heard of "3d2003"... I didn't even think about the possibility that you could be referring to 3dmark....

    Anyhow, you may as well yank the sound blaster anyhow. The onboard audio on newer intel/nVidia-based motherboards (and probably Via as well) is at least on par with, and usually better than, the old SB Live cards.
  • rykoryko new york
    edited January 2004
    Yeah, i guess my abbreviation/lazziness could have thrown some people off--i will be more clear in the future.

    I have the free version of 3dmark03, so i don't think i can disable the sound test (please correct me if i am wrong)

    I also know that the onboard sound (alc658) is better than my 'old sb live! card, but my Boston Acoustics 7500G 4.1 spkrs won't work with the onboard sound. The speakers are digital, and so is the onboard sound, but the speakers only work if i use the sb live! that came with the speakers (from an older gateway willamette 1.5ghz) As a matter of fact, these stupid BA7500s will only work with the older sb live! drivers that winXP installs automatically--which won't allow me to complete 3dmark03. SO THIS WAS THE WHOLE PROBLEM!!! Right now i am using crappy analog headphones and the newest LiveDrvpack from creative so i can benchmark my 9600pro and see how far i can o/c it. I am trying to crack the 4000 barrier and am very close with a 3933 so far. (486/324)

    Bottom line for me...
    BA7500s + new sb drvrs = no sound & no 3dmark03
    BA7500s + old sb drvrs = sound but NO 3dmark03
    crappy $20 no-name headphones + any drivers = sound AND 3dmark03

    This totally blows. I guess i am going to have to save up for the logitech z-5300 THX 5.1s
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited January 2004
    Oh well. At least you've solved the problem. Too bad the solution isn't a cheap one... :(
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Er, do you mean you are using the S/PDIF connection to connect the Bostons to your SBLive? If so, then you can't get 4.1 sound anyway (S/PDIF Digital Output only supports 2 channel PCM audio for everything other than DVD passthrough) which doesn't sound right. Can you explain some more about your Sound Setup as it doesn't seem to make much sense. Digital Speakers are exactly the same as Analogue ones, it's the connections that matter.
  • rykoryko new york
    edited January 2004
    When i say both the sb and the BA7500s are digital, what i mean is that i have to have the 'digital output only' box checked under the 'advanced controls for play control' dialogue box in order for my speakers to work. I have to uncheck this box if i want to use my analog headphones. The speakers are hooked up to my sb live! with one standard 3.5mm green audio plug. The setup is not anything fancy, the speakers and sound card just came from a diffferent pre-built system.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    I have never seen any "Digial Only" speakers before. I would get myself some analog cables and hook it up that way if I was you. That will give you 4.1 speaker gaming too.
  • rykoryko new york
    edited January 2004
    What do you mean 'get some analog cables and hook it up that way?' I am using the cables that came with the speakers---they are physically attached to the rear of each speaker. The 4 satellites plug into the subwoofer, and that plugs into my sblive. I have 4.1 in gaming/dvds when i get the BA7500s working with the older creative drvs so that isn't the problem. Obviously i lose the surround sound when i use my headphones. My main concern is why won't my speakers work after i install the newest drivers? I have to rollback to the previous driver if i want any sound out of my BA7500s. What is in the latest release that could screw up my speakers?
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    ryko wrote:
    What do you mean 'get some analog cables and hook it up that way?' I am using the cables that came with the speakers---they are physically attached to the rear of each speaker. The 4 satellites plug into the subwoofer, and that plugs into my sblive. I have 4.1 in gaming/dvds when i get the BA7500s working with the older creative drvs so that isn't the problem. Obviously i lose the surround sound when i use my headphones. My main concern is why won't my speakers work after i install the newest drivers? I have to rollback to the previous driver if i want any sound out of my BA7500s. What is in the latest release that could screw up my speakers?

    Now see, that is where the problem lies.
    "You cannot get more than 2 channel gaming over a digital connection".
    Which means, if you are in fact getting more than 2 channels in games (and you aren't using something like Dolby Pro Logic to upmix from 2 to 4.1) you have to already be using analog. So from this, something you have said along the lines has to be incorrect.
  • rykoryko new york
    edited January 2004
    Um, i don't know why you think you can only get 2ch sound from a digital connection. That seems just plain crazy to me. Aren't all the new speaker packages from logitech, klipsch, etc.. digital 5.1 setups? So you think that you will only get 2ch's out of these setups? I think we are getting confused. I am not using any digital patch cables like a TOSLINK or digital coaxial, but that doesn't mean that my speakers aren't digital. I get 4.1 if the original source (dvd/gaming) supports the rear ch's. Otherwise i have to upmix when the original source is only stereo like from my tv tuner card. Anyway, 2ch or 4ch--it doesn't matter--i am not having a problem with my rear speakers. I am having problems with the newest creative drivers not working with my speakers at all. As far as my connections, the 3.5mm jack from my BA7500s that plugs into my sblive! looks like a standard 3.5mm analog jack, but it is not analog. If i try my BA7500s on one my other systems with onboard analog ac'97 audio, they won't work. The plug fits, but there isn't any option for 'digital output only' under the sound properties. This is also the reason why my BA7500s won't work with my alc658 6ch onboard sound from my ai7--no option to force 'digital output only.' Someone told me to get a patch cable that has a 3.5mm audio jack to s/pdif digital, but then i think i would lose my 2 rear ch's so i haven't tried this. I think this is what you were talking about. I really think it is these strange speakers, b/c i have tried using them with a different newer sblive!, but they only work witht the sblive! that they came with from the original system. Oh well, it is a nice excuse to go speaker shopping :mullet:
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    ryko wrote:
    Um, i don't know why you think you can only get 2ch sound from a digital connection. That seems just plain crazy to me. Aren't all the new speaker packages from logitech, klipsch, etc.. digital 5.1 setups? So you think that you will only get 2ch's out of these setups? I think we are getting confused. I am not using any digital patch cables like a TOSLINK or digital coaxial, but that doesn't mean that my speakers aren't digital. I get 4.1 if the original source (dvd/gaming) supports the rear ch's. Otherwise i have to upmix when the original source is only stereo like from my tv tuner card. Anyway, 2ch or 4ch--it doesn't matter--i am not having a problem with my rear speakers. I am having problems with the newest creative drivers not working with my speakers at all. As far as my connections, the 3.5mm jack from my BA7500s that plugs into my sblive! looks like a standard 3.5mm analog jack, but it is not analog. If i try my BA7500s on one my other systems with onboard analog ac'97 audio, they won't work. The plug fits, but there isn't any option for 'digital output only' under the sound properties. This is also the reason why my BA7500s won't work with my alc658 6ch onboard sound from my ai7--no option to force 'digital output only.' Someone told me to get a patch cable that has a 3.5mm audio jack to s/pdif digital, but then i think i would lose my 2 rear ch's so i haven't tried this. I think this is what you were talking about. I really think it is these strange speakers, b/c i have tried using them with a different newer sblive!, but they only work witht the sblive! that they came with from the original system. Oh well, it is a nice excuse to go speaker shopping :mullet:

    Yes, all the new systems are 5.1 or 7.1 but ONLY over analogue connections. The only thing that you can get more than 2 channel over with are DVD's (over a digital connection).

    You can't get anything to "convert a connection to S/PDIF" as it isn't a connection type, it is the actual digital transmitions. Digital can be over a phono plug, optical (called TOSLINK), 3.5mm jack, whatever.

    Check on the back of your Sub to see if it has any other inputs for analog input rather than Digital Input.

    It doesn't work when you plug it into your onboard sound as the Onboard sound is sending out an analogue signal and the reciever is expecting a digital signal.

    As I said before, unless your speakers are upmixing, it IS NOT POSSIBLE to get more than 2 channel gaming. End Of Ans as you confirmed that you are infact using Digital, your speakers are upmixing. You need to look for analogue inputs on your Reciever.
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