Convince me to come back to WoW.

RootWyrmRootWyrm Icrontian
edited December 2010 in Gaming
My sub to another MMO expires in September, and I won't be renewing there. Not a chance. But that leaves me with FPSes (which I suck at) and that's about it.

So, convince me to come hang in WoW with you folks. I play MMOs primarily for the social aspect, but I'm also a progression sort. I left WoW because of constant drama and moronic antics where my characters were. Got sick of things like being told to go get better gear, and having to PUG heroics because the daily heroic is "beneath them."

That said, my weapons of choice were/are primarily my 80 Enhancement Shaman, 80 Elemental Shaman, and my 80 (I forget) Death Knight. All Horde. (Okay, I have one 80 Alliance DK too. SHUSH.) I left shortly after the Tournament was introduced, and I've done Naxx 10/25, VoA 10/25 single, Obsidian 10/25, EoE 10/25, and Uld 10. I'd consider transferring one of the Shamans, but I'd prefer not to just because $#@*! $25 and my gear's probably old enough to be near useless anyway.

So, have at it. Convince me to reup.
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  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    Well, considering the Icrontic WoW guild is on break until Cataclysm....

    You could join us now, get some decent gear by the time the expansion hits, and then raid with the Icrontians

    or

    don't.

    The choice is yours
  • ardichokeardichoke Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    It's digital crack. Don't do it. Take to RTSes instead.
  • RootWyrmRootWyrm Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    fatcat wrote:
    Well, considering the Icrontic WoW guild is on break until Cataclysm....

    You could join us now, get some decent gear by the time the expansion hits, and then raid with the Icrontians

    Yeah, exceeeeeeeeept for the same problem I had before.

    How'm I gonna get geared if you all are on break and not raiding? :tim:
  • MyrmidonMyrmidon Baron von Puttenham California Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    There's not really a point getting gear before the expansion hits if we're not raiding. I think fatcat's statement is poorly worded and probably causing you some confusion - we're not here. I've been leveling a paladin for the last few weeks, and there's jack shit on the IC vent channel lately - your best bet is to wait until cataclysm.

    Having said that, if you DO come in when we start raiding again, we're pretty much the best humans on earth. I've never felt more okay with drinking in a completely empty apartment as I do when I'm on vent with these people. It's like being at a party where everyone is naked, attractive, and has the hots for you. Also, they're playing WoW. And drinking. And listening to 8-bit march tracks while explaining the boss. And not really naked, except me (THAT'S RIGHT AAAAAHAHAHA).

    I mean, have you been to an Icrontic event before? This is like a small dose of that. We INVENTED the word 'awesome.'
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    He's coming up to Shindig to break his ICherry
  • AnnesAnnes Tripped Up by Libidos and Hubris Alexandria, VA Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    I pretty much only miss vent. Let's get on vent more. everyone. kthx.
  • RootWyrmRootWyrm Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    So basically, wait on my ass till Cataclysm, because nobody's around?
  • Dark_RadeonDark_Radeon Michigan
    edited August 2010
    Buy Starcraft 2.
  • MyrmidonMyrmidon Baron von Puttenham California Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    RootWyrm wrote:
    So basically, wait on my ass till Cataclysm, because nobody's around?

    What were you going to do otherwise?
  • RootWyrmRootWyrm Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    Myrmidon wrote:
    What were you going to do otherwise?

    Honestly? Try to get as much of a head start on the gold drains of Cataclysm as possible and hang out with folks to just tool around. Like I said, I'm mostly after the social side still; don't make too much difference to me if it's SRSBZNS raiding or goofing around in Heroics. :D
  • MyrmidonMyrmidon Baron von Puttenham California Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    I wish we were around for you, then - that's exactly why I play. I've been having trouble getting my icrontic fix lately, too, seein's how I miss the League of Extraordinary Icrontians every wednesday.
  • UPSLynxUPSLynx :KAPPA: Redwood City, CA Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    .... don't do it? *hides*

    I want to get on vent!
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    RootWyrm wrote:
    Yeah, exceeeeeeeeept for the same problem I had before.

    How'm I gonna get geared if you all are on break and not raiding? :tim:

    Pugs
    Myrmidon wrote:
    There's not really a point getting gear before the expansion hits if we're not raiding. I think fatcat's statement is poorly worded and probably causing you some confusion

    I guarantee he will need better than the Tier8 gear he might have for the new Cataclysm 5-man dungeons. Hell, he probably can't do Halls of Reflection with current gear.

    No, he doesn't need i264 gear, but I would suggest at least Tier9 going into Cataclysm. I'm pretty sure Zenmode plans to start raiding again a few weeks after the release.

    Personally, I plan to work on my professions as soon as the expansion hits.

    edit: just realized, I wonder if OP even knows about Random Dungeon Queues...
  • MyrmidonMyrmidon Baron von Puttenham California Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    fatcat wrote:
    I guarantee he will need better than the Tier8 gear he might have for the new Cataclysm 5-man dungeons. Hell, he probably can't do Halls of Reflection with current gear.

    Oh, so it wasn't a poorly worded idea... just a poor one. :P

    He should get WotLK purples before moving on to Cata? I don't remember anyone telling me I should get TBC purples before moving onto WotLK. And, if I remember right, I did just fine. I was raiding within about a week of turning 80.

    I'm not saying gear from right now won't give him a slight edge, but it's not exactly "I GUARANTEE HE'S FUCKED AND CAN'T RAID WITH US IF HE DOESN'T," and it's pretty low quality to tell him that.

    If your choices are "raid now with pubs for a slight advantage when Cata comes out" or "wait to level/gear/raid with Icrontic when Cata comes out," I'd suggest picking the latter. You won't be sick of the game when Cata hits, you'll be greeted by new content, AND you'll have fun Icrontians to play with.

    ...Unless, of course, you enjoy raiding with pubs - in which case, go have fun! :)
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    All this talk of gear reminds me why I haven't been playing my druid cow.

    I want to play an MMO where things are kept interesting because of emergent, unpredictable behavior. In WoW, it seems like there are a handful of "right" ways to play. Meh.

    /troll
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    Myrmidon wrote:
    Oh, so it wasn't a poorly worded idea... just a poor one. :P

    He should get WotLK purples before moving on to Cata? I don't remember anyone telling me I should get TBC purples before moving onto WotLK. And, if I remember right, I did just fine. I was raiding within about a week of turning 80.

    I'm not saying gear from right now won't give him a slight edge, but it's not exactly "I GUARANTEE HE'S FUCKED AND CAN'T RAID WITH US IF HE DOESN'T," and it's pretty low quality to tell him that.

    If your choices are "raid now with pubs for a slight advantage when Cata comes out" or "wait to level/gear/raid with Icrontic when Cata comes out," I'd suggest picking the latter. You won't be sick of the game when Cata hits, you'll be greeted by new content, AND you'll have fun Icrontians to play with.

    ...Unless, of course, you enjoy raiding with pubs - in which case, go have fun! :)

    :rolleyes2
  • pigflipperpigflipper The Forgotten Coast Icrontian
    edited August 2010
    No.
  • TimTim Southwest PA Icrontian
    edited October 2010
    I couldn't convince you to come back to WoW. I left it months ago for Starcraft 2. I have been saying that when Cataclysm comes out I'll get it and level my 3 80s to 85, but after playing the game at Blizzcon.... I don't know if I'll even bother with that.

    Although I'm a very good player of the game, my gear is not the latest and greatest, and I can see all the trouble I'll have getting into raids because the idiot raid master looks only at the Gear Score mod and nothing else.
  • RichDRichD Essex, UK
    edited October 2010
    Tim wrote:
    I'll have getting into raids because the idiot raid master looks only at the Gear Score mod and nothing else.

    Buy new gear?
  • MAGICMAGIC Doot Doot Furniture City, Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2010
    RichD wrote:
    Buy new gear?

    Yeah, GS is a quick and easy way for raid leaders to determine how much effort a person has put into their gear. Higher the GS, the more time you have invested in your character, more time is more experience, and more experience usually means more skill. No, not always true but something is better than nothing.
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited October 2010
    Aside from that, even if you play your character perfectly, you're going to offer higher DPS, better tanking, stronger heals, etc. when you have higher level gear. Sometimes the boss you're taking down requires that everyone can provide a minimum DPS or heals. Drop below that, and you just won't be able to take the boss down.
  • TiberiusLazarusTiberiusLazarus Icrontian
    edited October 2010
    Many also require a minimum level of intelligence. In those cases many people will never qualify.
  • steadyfluxsteadyflux Maryland Member
    edited October 2010
    Jimmy, your dancing cat avatar makes me dumber. I blame you for all future poor raiding performance.
  • TiberiusLazarusTiberiusLazarus Icrontian
    edited October 2010
    How dare you look down upon the dancing cat!!!?!??!?!????
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited October 2010
    Many also require a minimum level of intelligence. In those cases many people will never qualify.

    Well, when you have 12 million subscribers, 11.5 million of them are bound to be idiots.
  • RyderRyder Kalamazoo, Mi Icrontian
    edited October 2010
    Cyclonite wrote:
    Well, when you have 12 million subscribers, 11.5 million of them are bound to be idiots.
    You are generous, I was thinking 11.99
  • TimTim Southwest PA Icrontian
    edited December 2010
    Instead of gearing up in Ulduar, then gearing up in whatever raid comes after that (see, I don't even know, that's how completely I left the game when I started the Starcraft 2 Beta in late April), then gearing up in whatever the highest raid in Cataclysm currently is, I prefer to just skip to the highest one and save myself a whole lot of time and effort.

    IF I even get Cataclysm, that is. The 10 day free trial offer just came out, and I'm thinking if I'll be able to get a useful amount of time out of the free trial when I'm not playing Starcraft 2 or doing other things.
  • MiracleManSMiracleManS Chambersburg, PA Icrontian
    edited December 2010
    Tim, you can't get past 80...it allows you to gain XP until you hit 81 - 1xp. From that point on it's a waste.

    Just giving you a warning.
  • MAGICMAGIC Doot Doot Furniture City, Michigan Icrontian
    edited December 2010
    Tim wrote:
    Instead of gearing up in Ulduar, then gearing up in whatever raid comes after that (see, I don't even know, that's how completely I left the game when I started the Starcraft 2 Beta in late April), then gearing up in whatever the highest raid in Cataclysm currently is, I prefer to just skip to the highest one and save myself a whole lot of time and effort.

    You do not have to have Lich King raid gear to start Cataclysm. You should be level 85 around the time you finish Uldum/start Twilight Hinterlands.

    Naturally, from quest reward and regular pre 85 dunegons you will replace all of your Lich King gear with level 280-316 gear. You should have around a 300-310 average item level from quests and pre 85 dungeons.

    From questing you should have several faction reps from friendly to honored. You can buy gear from the faction quartermasters to boost your average item level to around 320.

    Now, the average item level required to queue a heroic dugeon is 329. You wont be able to get that level unless you run regular level 85 dungeons for gear, grind rep for revered/exaulted gear from faction quartermasters, purchase gear with justice points, and or purchase/make crafted gear.

    Note, If you are a tank or healer the bare minimum to queue will not be enough for heroics. In all reality you should be up around 340 imo before you try to heal or tank a heroic. I personally am at 335 on my warrior. All of my gear is itemized and enchanted for the appropriate stats and it can be a struggle with a healer that is not comparable or better.

    If you are a DPS and you just hit the heroic ilvl minimum GO TO A TRAINING DUMMY. If you cannot do 7k dps dont bother queueing for a random because there are some that you will hinder the group on certain bosses.

    Everyone wants to jump into heroics and start getting gear but if you dont follow the appropiate path and you try to cheat the system by equiping high ilvl offspec items to get in heroics you are just screwing others. Most heroic groups will vote you out if you are straggler.

    /rant, all from personal experience.
  • MyrmidonMyrmidon Baron von Puttenham California Icrontian
    edited December 2010
    Yeah, it's really a dick move to screw everyone ELSE over by not pulling your own damn weight.

    Besides, Blizzard eliminated that sort of BS with the badge system - basically everything Magic said. You run heroics, amass badges, and buy gear that puts you about ready for high-raid-level content. When I started, I filled my character out with purples from Lich King heroics and tier gear and jumped into ICC - the highest raid available at the time. I didn't have to gear through raids. Just had to gear through low-level ICC to make realistic attempts at higher level ICC.
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