The "Everything is Different" Vanilla feature and bug discussion

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  • LincLinc Bard Detroit Icrontian

    Search is back.

  • MrTRiotMrTRiot Northern Ontario Icrontian

    I've noticed the "points" I have under my profile has not changed in ages despite obtaining new badges. Is this intentional or some type of bug?

  • midgamidga "There's so much hot dog in Rome" ~digi (> ^.(> O_o)> Icrontian
    edited May 2014

    So, quotes have been only partially quoting. It's kinda weird.
    Also, I think I noticed a carriage return didn't actually drop to a new line earlier.

    --edit--
    Like the previous carriage return...

  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian

    ^^^Agreed.

  • LincLinc Bard Detroit Icrontian
    edited May 2014

    @MrTRiot I think that is an old bug related to timestamps (I won't bother explaining, it's ridic) but your points are quietly incrementing somewhere I just need to fix it.

    @Thrax said:
    I don't understand how "! [ ] ( )" is any less obtuse than <img src="">.

    A link in Markdown is [text](URL) and an image is ![text](URL).

    A link in HTML is <a href="URL">text</a> and an image is <img src="URL" alt="text" />

    You are the kind of geeks who know 'a' means 'anchor' and WTF it means to close a tag. Most of the world does not have this kind of background. Also, look at how much markup the HTML is by comparison and how hard it is to read. If you think it's easier to read HTML, OK fine, I just will never agree.

    @Thrax said:
    It's not that markdown is more difficult, or that I object to on the ground that "change is bad!" -- because I support simplification through abstraction -- it's that markdown is no easier than what it attempts to replace.

    Again, simply not my experience. I'm writing a crazy amount of documentation in Markdown right now and I'd be screaming mad if I was doing it in HTML. It's easier to type, edit, and read. And I'm a Markdown beginner and would wager $5 I'm faster at typing HTML than 95% of the folks here.

    @CB said:
    It's not wysiwyg enough for me.

    We've never had a WYSIWYG editor on Icrontic so I have no idea what that means. Vanilla has a bitchin' new WYSIWYG if you guys want me to turn it on.

    @midga said:
    So, quotes have been only partially quoting. It's kinda weird.

    Yes, and this sucks. I very much appreciate Icrontic & NewBuddhist found that bug and apologize you've had to live with it while I get around to debugging that.

    @midga said:
    Also, I think I noticed a carriage return didn't actually drop to a new line earlier.

    GitHub uses a variant of Markdown that respects carriage returns without extra spacing. We should move to that, because I agree that aspect of pure Markdown isn't great for commenting & forum culture in general. I'm probably going to patch Vanilla core in response to this.

    midga
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian

    If you think it's easier to read HTML, OK fine, I just will never agree.

    My point is that neither are especially intuitive.

  • oni_delsoni_dels Drunk French Canadian Montréal, Québec. Icrontian

    all i see is, @Linc knows markdown, so it's easier from his perspective. i started html like 12years ago if not more, and it's simplier for me. i'm obvisouly not gonna be like "make IC easy for me", but it seems no one knows markdown, but a lot of peeps knows html.

    just saying.

    might be drunk so might be irrelevant.

    giraffe.

    MrTRiot
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    Mostly my wysiwyg comment is about carriage returns. Most of the posts I make are just plain text paragraphs, and when I post on any forum or board, I expect my line breaks to be retained exactly as I enter them. If that's getting 'fixed', then that's super sweet for me.

    GHoosdumoni_dels
  • RyderRyder Kalamazoo, Mi Icrontian

    @Linc‌ said
    We've never had a WYSIWYG editor on Icrontic so I have no idea what that means. Vanilla has a bitchin' new WYSIWYG if you guys want me to turn it on.

    I would like to see that, at least. Might want it on our forum.

    Signal
  • LincLinc Bard Detroit Icrontian
    edited May 2014

    @Ryder said:
    I would like to see that, at least. Might want it on our forum.

    It'll come standard in 2.3, the next version. We haven't open sourced it yet because it requires a higher version of Vanilla than is currently designated stable (2.1). (We're skipping 2.2, it's complicated).

  • midgamidga "There's so much hot dog in Rome" ~digi (> ^.(> O_o)> Icrontian

    I agree, I would /love/ to see a wysiwyg editor. I'm perfectly capable of learning Markdown or HTML or CSS or whatever to format stuff, but really when I'm just making forum posts, I don't want to have to put effort into them. To me that's like learning how to write the bootloader and compiler for an ATMega when all you want to do is make a few lights blink in sequence.

  • LincLinc Bard Detroit Icrontian

    I actually just talked to the author of the new editor and it turns out it does more than I thought. I'm thinking I'm going to force it as the new Vanilla editor for everyone because it actually respects non-WYSIWYG settings too. It's like Button Bar + cleditor + FileUpload + plain text mix-and-match.

    midgaThrax
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian

    Now that's change I can believe in. <3

  • shwaipshwaip bluffin' with my muffin Icrontian

    @Linc said:
    Search is back.

    It doesn't seem to be working for me.

  • midgamidga "There's so much hot dog in Rome" ~digi (> ^.(> O_o)> Icrontian

    oni_delsThraxZanthian
  • LincLinc Bard Detroit Icrontian

    i hate the world.

    GHoosdumThraxPirateNinja
  • LincLinc Bard Detroit Icrontian

    Also search is back (again). I turned over my keyboard to @IcyLiquid‌ for a few minutes and all is well in serverland again.

    midga
  • PirateNinjaPirateNinja Icrontian

    Keep it going for a few weeks straight and I'll bring baby oil to hj day.

    LincIcyLiquid
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian

    So the mobile theme is awesome, but it took me a while to figure out how to log in. Because the "Sign in" and "Register" buttons float over the theme, every time I would click sign in, then click the user name field after the sign in page loaded, the on-screen keyboard would push the floating buttons right over top of the user name entry field. Thus, my tapping on that field to begin text entry would register as a click of whichever button corresponded to the side of the field I tapped. Then, the sign in page would reload, or the registration page would load, and I couldn't enter my username to sign in without the same thing happening again.

    I worked around it by tapping in the password field first, so the floating buttons don't float over that field when the on-screen keyboard appears.

    This is likely an uncommon problem, because I'm using my work-issued iPhone 4 and nobody else has a screen that small anymore.

  • LincLinc Bard Detroit Icrontian
    edited May 2014

    Thanks @GHoosdum‌ I sent that along to the mobile developer.

    GHoosdum
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    edited May 2014

    I still find the mobile forums difficult to navigate effectively. So far I haven't seen a way to get back to the list of all discussions without going to the front page and using that link. Am I missing something?

    Also I'd like to be able to use the non-mobile theme on my phone. Using the "full version" link only seems to take me to the home page.

    edit: That being said, I think you guys have the best mobile forum view of anyone.

    oni_delsThrax
  • shwaipshwaip bluffin' with my muffin Icrontian
    edited May 2014

    @mertesn said:
    I still find the mobile forums difficult to navigate effectively. So far I haven't seen a way to get back to the list of all discussions without going to the front page and using that link. Am I missing something?

    Also I'd like to be able to use the non-mobile theme on my phone. Using the "full version" link only seems to take me to the home page.

    edit: That being said, I think you guys have the best mobile forum view of anyone.

    it would be nice if one of the following were the case:

    The "Icrontic" link at the top of the forums went to the "all discussions" page.

    The "Community home" link in the hamburger menu went to the "all discussions" page.

    There was a "All Discussions" link in the hamburger menu.

    mertesnoni_delsThraxIlriyas
  • LincLinc Bard Detroit Icrontian
    edited May 2014

    Yeah that's actually my WordPress integration sucking not the mobile theme having an issue. :/

  • LincLinc Bard Detroit Icrontian

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  • oni_delsoni_dels Drunk French Canadian Montréal, Québec. Icrontian

    search down again...

  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach Alexandria, VA Icrontian

    Search is dead! Long live search!

  • LincLinc Bard Detroit Icrontian
    edited May 2014

    I'm going to have another look at search this weekend, sorry.

    I'm pushing an attempted fix for the bug where viewing all discussions in a parent category marks the discussions in its children categories as read.

    Please let me know if you see anything wonky with Mark All Viewed etc over the weekend. Touching anything in this system tends to make something new go wrong.

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