Xp 3200 or Athlon 64? (for games)
Ok, heres the situation. A friend of mine is buying my system today for cost because he needs one fast and doesn't want to wait for mail order. That system is:
Xp 2500 barton
biostar M7NCD pro
2x 512 mb pc2700
Since i'm getting back almost all i put into it a few months ago i thought i'd take the opportunity to upgrade a bit. Originally i thought i'd just go to an xp 3200 and pc3200 ram but now i'm wondering if i should go up to an athlon 64. Is there a big difference for a gamer or is the 64 sort of just a newer, buggier technology that can't even be utilized yet? I've been reading up on it on the board and a few reviews but i still feel like a complete newb about the 64 and can't figure out if its worth it. And why don't they make a socket 754 mb that uses dual channel ram? Doesn't that alone make the xp's more bang for the buck at this point?
So far a lot of what i've read about the 64 on the boards has been about specifics and i was wondering if anyone could give me a quick overview of the difference in performance from the higher xp's. Thanks.
Xp 2500 barton
biostar M7NCD pro
2x 512 mb pc2700
Since i'm getting back almost all i put into it a few months ago i thought i'd take the opportunity to upgrade a bit. Originally i thought i'd just go to an xp 3200 and pc3200 ram but now i'm wondering if i should go up to an athlon 64. Is there a big difference for a gamer or is the 64 sort of just a newer, buggier technology that can't even be utilized yet? I've been reading up on it on the board and a few reviews but i still feel like a complete newb about the 64 and can't figure out if its worth it. And why don't they make a socket 754 mb that uses dual channel ram? Doesn't that alone make the xp's more bang for the buck at this point?
So far a lot of what i've read about the 64 on the boards has been about specifics and i was wondering if anyone could give me a quick overview of the difference in performance from the higher xp's. Thanks.
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The cpu doesn't handle dual channel so the boards can't do it either.
Actually on that note, can anyone direct me to a good guide on all that voltage and memory timing stuff and general FSB overclocking for dummies?
install times are faster boot up times are faster EVERYTHING is faster! yes the socket 754 has been known to be buggy but it is not buggy if you get the MSI board or the abit board. I know my asus sucked balls and Shortys Biostar i think it was blew too.
AMD Athlon64 3200+ Processor, Retail $398.00
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R S754 Mainboard w/Audio/SATA/RAID/FW/GBLan $249.00
Corsair TWIN-X 512-3200LL (2x256MB) Dual Channel DDR Kit $215.00
Lite-On 52x CD-ROM Drive, OEM Black $23.00
Panasonic 3.5" Floppy Drive, Black $15.00
Asus Radeon 9200SE 64MB Video Card w/TV-OUT, Retail $70.00
Antec PerformanceII SX1040II Full Tower Case w/400Watt PS, Black $131.00
Total: $1101.00 CDN
edit// That's about $822.62 US
You should at least through a 9800 Pro in there. Only $275.00 USD now.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-476&catalog=147&depa=1
I'd be taking out the Western Digital WD400JB and the 9800 pro from this sytem and putting it into the new one. This machine would become my dedicated folder. I'm also looking at a P4 3.4/Abit IC7-Max3 configuration for about $100 more, I go that route, I can also swap out my Ocz DDR500 Gold.
ECS 755 $89 USD (No GBlan or FW, faster stock speeds, supposedly pretty stable)
Albatron K8X800 ProII $123 USD (GBLan, no FW, 24PT envy sound, seen only good reviews so far)
Why 2 sticks of ram? It doesn't support dual channel. (ok maybe for possible use in other boards/upgrades?)
IDK just a couple suggestions.
Hes a Canuk eh?
MSI or abit. I know Shorty and I both have the MSI and are loving it!
Nope thats registered ram thats a no no! only if you went opteron then yes thats what you want BUT your going athlon 64 so that bad! THIS is the ram you want http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-450&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1
I don't think the ram he posted is registered. Otherwise it would say registered, no?
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-431&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1
TwinX 512 3200LL
this is the link caxus posted
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-476&catalog=147&depa=1
Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Platinum Series, Low Latency (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) ECC Registered DDR PC-3200 - Retail
ECC Registered M8!
I take that ECS board back. You want the 755-A2, not 755-A. The first revision is bad, the second is very good.
Read his post again.
How bout YOU read his post again and actually click on the link and open your eyes! :wow2:
his post = Corsair TWIN-X 512-3200LL (2x256MB) Dual Channel DDR Kit $215.00
my link = http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-431&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1
edit// now I see you are talking about CAXUS, and I was referring to Dogsoldier. Your post confused me because you referred to Dogsoldier first.
Intel P4 2.4 GHz-800 FSB
Biostar P4VTB ( PT800, FSB800,8XAGP, 6-CH Audio, LAN, DDR400, USB 2.0)
256 Meg DDR PC3200
WD 40 GB JB Hard drive 7200 RPM
MSI GForce4 MX440-T8X w/ 64M DDR
LG 52x CD-Rom
P4-ATX case w/front USB / 350W p.s
AOopen PS2 Keyboard
PS2 Scroll Mouse
TS-128 w/ 280W Hi-Fi Speaker
$570 Cdn or $427 US
edit// Keep in mind these systems will be for folding only.
Will that board O/C??? Might wanna spend a few extra bucks on one that will (assuming that one doesn't very well) and O/C those 2.4's to maybe 3.0?
In all major religions .... you might find a few stock 2.4c's in the jungles of africa, where the savages live.
Actually, the P4PE is Intel 845 chipset and this Biostar is a VIA PT800 chipset.
Looking at the product page, I don't see where it explicitly says it has HT, tho it definitely supports 800fsb processors. Probably does but if I were you, I'd confirm before ordering.