New Computer Questions

Lipid-SamaLipid-Sama
edited February 2004 in Hardware
Yo, I asked you guys for help back in november for hardware sujestions when I was making a new computer. They were all good, but I never bought the stuff, I desided to save and just get a 64bit computer going once the prices came down. Well ironically my computer burned, lol it was 7 years old and it was time to put her to sleep. So now I got no computer and im doing all my stuff on school computers. So im asking you guys, what is the best combo for a 64 bit computer, I got roughtly 2000.00 I can spend, and I called my mom and she said she would loan me 500.00 extra if I need it. So any thoughts would be much appreciated. and i was reading other threads, and I saw something about NF3-250 comming soon, any thoughts on that? Im not not to par with hardware stuff, so im kinda at a loss, thanks.

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  • JustinJustin Atlanta
    edited February 2004
    Definately came to the right place....Stay tuned.... Are you thinking extreme gaming or just the 64 platform? I think that most everybody here will tell you that the ASUS SK8V is the board you want if you are thinking extreme gaming with the Athlon 64 FX 51, Corsair PC3200 REG XMS RAM, ATI 9800 PRO Vid Card, If you are just going to spend the money anyway, go for the Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10000RMP HDs x2 in a RAID-0 config, OPtical drive of your choice, and other random cards for LAN, Modem, sound yadda, yadda.... Any other thoughts?
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Man, with a budget that huge, you can build a hell of a system....
  • Lipid-SamaLipid-Sama
    edited February 2004
    I do alot of multimedia stuff, DVD-rips, Anime,mp3's plus i do alot of shooters, Counter-Strike, unreal Turnny. So it would be a mutli purpose station.
    About the raptors, the 10k rpms is temping but i do alot of storage, so im gonna have to drop down I was thinking the 250gig WD SATA instead, whats ur thought on that?
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Im not not to par with hardware stuff, so im kinda at a loss, thanks.

    When you say "not to par", please be more specific. We can tailor our help to your needs if we know your needs. So, 1) you aren't familiar with the hardware options available, 2) are not a computer builder, or 3) some combination of 1 and 2?

    Be specific, and you'll get a ton of help. The two systems I built (see signature) came about after much consultation with Short-Media members. But yes, the high-performance guys are still upset about my choice of DRAM! LOL

    You also need to tell us what your objective is: all out gaming, MS Office, video editing, MP3 collecting and playback, massive multitasking? Let us know. There's no point in spending $2000+ if you can meet (and even surpass) your needs for $1000. Who knows, you might like to spend the difference on a beautiful, high performance monitor!
  • Lipid-SamaLipid-Sama
    edited February 2004
    Im just not familar with the lastest in hardware, for a 64bit computer. Like what Ram should I get with my SK8V, once i know what works well together i can do the rest, thats no problem.

    And I do Multiple stuff on my computer. Games/Multimedia/Music etc.
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited February 2004
    any overclocking?
  • Lipid-SamaLipid-Sama
    edited February 2004
    maybe. I overclocked my last computer. maxed it out, stupid palomino lol...I dont know tho. Probably.
  • Lipid-SamaLipid-Sama
    edited February 2004
    Hows this:
    Asus K8T800 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 940 CPU, Model "SK8V"

    AMD Athlon 64 FX-51, 1MB L2 Cache

    Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS GAMER Limited Edition PCI Sound Card

    ASUS ATI RADEON 9800PRO Video Card, 256MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/VIVO, 8X AGP

    Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, Low Latency 184 Pin 512MB ECC Registered DDR PC-3200

    2 - Western Digital 250GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive

    Lite-On Beige 52X32X52 CD-RW Drive

    Pioneer 8X DVD+RW/-RW Drive, Model DVR-107D
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Ah, I see you posted your needs right before I posted my questions.

    I'm not up to speed with the AMD 64bit processors, so no advice from me on them. Hang tight, the guys in the 'Club 64' will find your thread.

    I think you approach on hard drives is good. If I were building a new system now, I'd go for high capacity W-D or Maxtor (8 MB Cache for either brand) over the 10K RPM Raptors. The jury is not in though, on SATA performance. If I'm correct, good quality 8MB cache drives are about as fast as SATA.

    Motherboards? I'm a huge Abit fan, although I've never tried MSI, Asus, or Epox. While you're waiting for a response from other members more up to date than I am, please do some searches here at the site for 64-related threads and compatible motherboards.

    Good luck,

    Leo
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited February 2004
    Lipid Sama wrote:
    Hows this:
    Asus K8T800 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 940 CPU, Model "SK8V"

    AMD Athlon 64 FX-51, 1MB L2 Cache

    Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS GAMER Limited Edition PCI Sound Card

    ASUS ATI RADEON 9800PRO Video Card, 256MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/VIVO, 8X AGP

    Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, Low Latency 184 Pin 512MB ECC Registered DDR PC-3200

    2 - Western Digital 250GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive

    Lite-On Beige 52X32X52 CD-RW Drive

    Pioneer 8X DVD+RW/-RW Drive, Model DVR-107D

    Only problem for me, is go for the Radeon 9800 XT if you can afford it, otherwise just get a regular 9800 pro 128.
  • madmatmadmat
    edited February 2004
    If you go socket 940 your future upgrade path will be limited and you'll have to use registered DDR which is a limiting factor and expensive to boot.
    You'll only see an incremental increase in performance as opposed to a socket 754 setup and with a socket 754 setup you'll be able to use the fastest memory that you can get you hands on, whether it's PC3200 or PC3500.
    Besides with the cash you'll save getting a 754 3400+ and non registered dimms you'll be able to afford a 9800XT.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Anandtech has had a number of recent, informative articles on the FX 51, Athlon 64 and the Athlon 64 Newcastle. Anand recommends against the FX 51, but sings the praises of the Athlon 64 3000+.
  • Lipid-SamaLipid-Sama
    edited February 2004
    so get a ABIT K8T800 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU, Model "KV8-MAX3"?

    can i get a URL to the ram i should get? id kinda like to get max ram for the board, not max but like 3 chips of the XMS corsair, that set i should get, i get lost when i go down the list.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    MadMat seems to be more current on this than I am. One of the Anand articles, here, had this to say:
    In gaming applications, all of the Athlon64 family processors top our gaming benchmarks and the 3400+ is the top performing Athlon64 Socket 754 chip. The Athlon64 FX51 is still the fastest processor, as expected, but in many cases, the 3400+ comes very close to the FX CPU. In computing intensive applications like Workstation Graphics, Media Encoding, and some of the most demanding games, the Dual-Channel FX chip shows its superiority. However, for most users, the 3400+ will give them all they could want in a processor - for about 40% less than the FX51.
  • madmatmadmat
    edited February 2004
    Here's what I would suggest as far as ram goes...since it's a single channel setup you can just buy 2 sticks of it.
    It's Mushkin LV2 PC3200 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-284&catalog=147&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=0
  • Lipid-SamaLipid-Sama
    edited February 2004
    whats the difference between dual chhanel and single? and what should i get?
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    It's not really a simple answer - dual channel versus single. Those Anandtech links in my post above are excellent sources of information on the evolution and future road map for AMD 64 bit processors.
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