No recent PS3 has been hardware compatible with PS1/PS2. Software compatibility is released on a patch-by-patch basis, with "most" old games being compatible. There's a list somewhere.
Yes, there is still Ethernet, and two USB. Memory card, no.
I'm not interested in paying for Xbox Live, and I'm still not satisfied with the 360's build quality (not talking about RROD - there are plenty of other issues). So if I buy a next gen console, it'll be this. The continuing lack of PS2 compatibility is incredibly lame, though. BTW, Prime, all PS3s play PS1 games.
I'll pick up a 360 to play the single-player games I've missed out on by the time 360s are being dumped for 720s.
Thrax - perhaps it's a stronger platform, but almost any 360 game that's worth a darn, I can play it on PC (and probably enjoy it significantly more there)
There are many PS3 exclusives that are actually that, and make me wish I could play them. Few 360 exclusives are not also found on the PC eventually.
The 360 is more or less Direct X on TV. The PS3 does offer some exclusives that seem more compelling if your already a PC gamer.
Not to mention, you take the cost down $100 now, it at least seems to be designed better, tests will show next month, but its smaller, removes that power brick, I wonder if it runs cooler as well (the 360 is hot and sounds like a small jet plane). You get a blu-ray player, which I am luke warm on at best, but its a throw in feature that we can't knock. The online play is free. If I'm Microsoft, I can't like this move at all.
I still don't find the Blu-ray player a compelling arguement for the PS3. The rest is all perfectly legit but Blu-ray just isn't nailing DVD in it's coffin. We'll have a new form of HD storage by the time Blu-ray ousts DVD from it's throne.
PSN's online play is free, but it's shit, at least in my experiences - particularly in the voice chat arena.
I, too, am thinking about selling my old (as good a time as any, what with the move) and picking up a slim... it's the OG 60gb version, so definitely has BC built in.
Added to my Amazon Wish List (aka birthday/christmas list). The only down side to the slim PS3 is that they took out the ability to install Linux on it. Oh well, I wasn't planning on doing that anyway. Also, PS2 emulation could possibly be restored soon, Sony has applied for a patent on a method that would apparently allow them to do full PS2 emulation via software on the Cell processor. Here's hoping that shows up in a software patch soon!
First, PS2 emulation MAY come back, but Sony says fuck no.
Second, that 50% rate you disparage came from a 5,000-person survey, and it's not meaningful in ANY WAY. It could be 100% full of PS3 fanboys who just felt like having a lark at the 360's expense. Actual warranty-based failure rate analyses say the failure rate is somewhere around 16%. And please note that a 5,000-person sample size from a gaming news site survey is, in fact, a far inferior dataset compared to a 1,000-person sample size from a 360 warranty agent.
Moreover, the original causes of most failures were fixed with the Jasper revision, so you'd never see a problem if you bought one now.
And if you'll note from the survey, only 3% of respondents said they wouldn't buy another 360 because of its hardware failures. Sounds like the 360 is a massive success compared to the PS3 if 97% of people are willing to completely ignore this "crippling flaw" and buy another one again.
I would have thought that any internet based poll, by now, would throw up red flags for anyone when it comes to legitimacy - especially for something like videogames. Think about the typical person to cast a ballot for something like this.
Speaking from personal experience I have shown the Xbox 360 to have about a 80% fail rate. I purchased two, one for me, one for my son. I exchanged each twice for red ringing (thanks Best Buy extended warranty). I got tired of mine, traded it for a wii so me and my little girl could play together and they guy I traded with had his tank again a few months later, so we are officially one for six at this point.
The Xbox 360 has to be the single biggest quality control failure in consumer electronics history.
Microsoft turned me off on the HD console front. If I want to play those games, I'll play them on windows from now on.
Speaking from personal experience I have shown the Xbox 360 to have about a 80% fail rate. I purchased two, one for me, one for my son. I exchanged each twice for red ringing (thanks Best Buy extended warranty). I got tired of mine, traded it for a wii so me and my little girl could play together and they guy I traded with had his tank again a few months later, so we are officially one for six at this point.
The Xbox 360 has to be the single biggest quality control failure in consumer electronics history.
Microsoft turned me off on the HD console front. If I want to play those games, I'll play them on windows from now on.
Agreed, my aunt has traded in her family's like 3 times over the course of a year and a half i believe. its ridiculous.
They underestimated the cooling capability, acknowledged the flaw, and are fixing it for everybody for free. They may have screwed up, but they're working hard to rectify the situation and they solved the issue in later releases.
Yeah, it sucks - but it's essentially over, and it's still everybody's favorite talking point.
Meanwhile, Sony frequently refuses to fix things under warranty because the console's "too dusty." That doesn't sound like service to me, so I'm hoping mine never breaks.
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The PS3 finally becomes attractive to me.
If I were to buy a current gen console, the PS3 is definitely it, but I've had no interest due to pricepoint, power usage, and other things.
I might consider one now, I'd love to play MGS4, Blazblue, and FF
Yes, there is still Ethernet, and two USB. Memory card, no.
As what? A weeaboo? Sony is a Japanese company, you know...
Also, the PS3 folds and has free online play. I luff my PS3
Shush, you don't even own a next gen console.
*drools*
Probably as reliable, too.
I'll pick up a 360 to play the single-player games I've missed out on by the time 360s are being dumped for 720s.
There are many PS3 exclusives that are actually that, and make me wish I could play them. Few 360 exclusives are not also found on the PC eventually.
The 360 is more or less Direct X on TV. The PS3 does offer some exclusives that seem more compelling if your already a PC gamer.
Not to mention, you take the cost down $100 now, it at least seems to be designed better, tests will show next month, but its smaller, removes that power brick, I wonder if it runs cooler as well (the 360 is hot and sounds like a small jet plane). You get a blu-ray player, which I am luke warm on at best, but its a throw in feature that we can't knock. The online play is free. If I'm Microsoft, I can't like this move at all.
But damn, i might try to sell my quick and get the slim version. It looks nice.
It's worth a bit if you've got one of the original backwards-compatible ones.
I, too, am thinking about selling my old (as good a time as any, what with the move) and picking up a slim... it's the OG 60gb version, so definitely has BC built in.
Still debating.
As for the XBox 360, there's a reason I will never own it. 50% failure rate is disgraceful.
First, PS2 emulation MAY come back, but Sony says fuck no.
Second, that 50% rate you disparage came from a 5,000-person survey, and it's not meaningful in ANY WAY. It could be 100% full of PS3 fanboys who just felt like having a lark at the 360's expense. Actual warranty-based failure rate analyses say the failure rate is somewhere around 16%. And please note that a 5,000-person sample size from a gaming news site survey is, in fact, a far inferior dataset compared to a 1,000-person sample size from a 360 warranty agent.
Moreover, the original causes of most failures were fixed with the Jasper revision, so you'd never see a problem if you bought one now.
And if you'll note from the survey, only 3% of respondents said they wouldn't buy another 360 because of its hardware failures. Sounds like the 360 is a massive success compared to the PS3 if 97% of people are willing to completely ignore this "crippling flaw" and buy another one again.
That survey is the only thing disgraceful here.
The Xbox 360 has to be the single biggest quality control failure in consumer electronics history.
Microsoft turned me off on the HD console front. If I want to play those games, I'll play them on windows from now on.
Agreed, my aunt has traded in her family's like 3 times over the course of a year and a half i believe. its ridiculous.
They underestimated the cooling capability, acknowledged the flaw, and are fixing it for everybody for free. They may have screwed up, but they're working hard to rectify the situation and they solved the issue in later releases.
Yeah, it sucks - but it's essentially over, and it's still everybody's favorite talking point.
Meanwhile, Sony frequently refuses to fix things under warranty because the console's "too dusty." That doesn't sound like service to me, so I'm hoping mine never breaks.