Build a PC for Battlefield 3, AMD style

mertesnmertesn I am Bobby MillerYukon, OK Icrontian
edited November 2011 in Gaming
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  • edited August 2011
    Dude, for the 1000 budget build, you could have used a MSI Ti Hawk gtx 560 ti video card. This card outperforms a 6950 at $20 less!
  • edited August 2011
    First off great article, very helpful. I cant wait to try out BF3.

    Currently I am in the process of getting the parts for a new AMD Bulldozer build. Any ideas on how well this would run BF3? My goal is to be able to max it out, if anyone has any changes that will help that I would be grateful.

    AMD Bulldozer FX 8150p (3.6Ghz Base 4.2Ghz Turbo)
    8GB DDR3 1866
    Asus Sabertooth 990FX Motherboard
    AMD 6970HD 2GB Video Card
    Current 7200RPM 120GB HD as main extra 3TB for storage.

    -Stangmar
  • edited August 2011
    So it costs AT LEAST an extra $600 to be able to run BF3 on PC? With no idea of how well that HD 6770 will actually be able to handle BF3 and at what graphics settings? I think I would rather just spend a grand total of $0 and play BF3 on my PS3 instead. All my gamer friends are on PS3, and I'm more used to the controller anyway.

    Note: I do have a quad-core PC with a GTX 560 Ti (capability to upgrade to SLI in the future), so I probably will have the ability to run BF3 well. But I'll probably just get the game on PS3 first, and then get it on PC when the price drops like a freaking rock in a month or two like every PC game does.
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    Josh S. wrote:
    Dude, for the 1000 budget build, you could have used a MSI Ti Hawk gtx 560 ti video card (- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127578&Tpk=msi%20ti%20hawk -). This card outperforms a 6950 at $20 less!
    Somehow I missed that card in the list. It's a good alternative, but keep in mind the 2GB Radeon HD 6950 (not the cheaper 1GB version) outperforms the GeForce GTX 560 in 60-70% of gaming benchmarks, even the ones in NVIDIA's TWIMTBP program.
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    Stangmar wrote:
    First off great article, very helpful. I cant wait to try out BF3.

    Currently I am in the process of getting the parts for a new AMD Bulldozer build. Any ideas on how well this would run BF3? My goal is to be able to max it out, if anyone has any changes that will help that I would be grateful.

    AMD Bulldozer FX 8150p (3.6Ghz Base 4.2Ghz Turbo)
    8GB DDR3 1866
    Asus Sabertooth 990FX Motherboard
    AMD 6970HD 2GB Video Card
    Current 7200RPM 120GB HD as main extra 3TB for storage.

    -Stangmar
    I'm not sure if you're serious or not since you seem to have top-of-the-line parts in your build.
    I have no idea if you'll be able to max out the settings, mainly because I haven't had hands-on time with the game and you haven't listed your display's resolution. You'll certainly be able to play with a single GPU, and you'll have a really good experience with it. The only real question is whether any settings have to be reduced. I'm guessing at 1920x1080 the answer is "not many".
    The only way to improve your hardware list right now is to use an SSD for Windows and programs. You could also add a second GPU, but it may not produce enough of a gain on a single display to justify the extra cost.
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    Statix wrote:
    So it costs AT LEAST an extra $600 to be able to run BF3 on PC? With no idea of how well that HD 6770 will actually be able to handle BF3 and at what graphics settings? I think I would rather just spend a grand total of $0 and play BF3 on my PS3 instead. All my gamer friends are on PS3, and I'm more used to the controller anyway.

    Note: I do have a quad-core PC with a GTX 560 Ti (capability to upgrade to SLI in the future), so I probably will have the ability to run BF3 well. But I'll probably just get the game on PS3 first, and then get it on PC when the price drops like a freaking rock in a month or two like every PC game does.
    Nice try with the troll-bait. The admission of having a sufficient PC after the trash talk is a really nice touch.
  • edited August 2011
    Shesshhh I bought a PS3 for $400 and an Xbox for $200, taking into account all the shitty games i've bought and all the controllers(which is 4 btw) and headsets i've gone through, I have spent an upwards of $1000 on console gaming, kind of fucking ironic when the whole reason i decided to go with consoles was because it would be affordable in the long run............now i feel like a dumbass, thanks alot.
  • edited August 2011
    Thanks a lot for the response mertesn, I was being quite serious. This is my first real gaming PC build and with all the hype about BF3's graphics and it being so "next gen", top of the line today can be just average tomorrow. My plan was to play at 1920x1080, with at least partial AA/AF going. So I guess I will just stick what I have planned.

    Thanks for the response, always helps to have a second opinion. Now I just have to not go crazy as I wait for bulldozer to come out, if it ever does.

    -S
  • boasistboasist Troy
    edited August 2011
    I picked up a new PC yesterday for my personal use at the lounge. Figured I'd go ATI for the first time in a long time. Now kicking myself for not going for the extra 1gb of memory for only another $30. I'm sure it'll be OK, the rest of the machine can certainly hang.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150563
  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    boasist, the Radeon 6870 is an excellent performer at around $195 with rebates and free game, it's an amazing deal.
  • BandrikBandrik Elkhart, IN Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    Stangmar wrote:
    This is my first real gaming PC build and with all the hype about BF3's graphics and it being so "next gen", top of the line today can be just average tomorrow. -S

    Hey there Stangmar! First, welcome to Icrontic!

    I'm in the exact same boat as you. I'm waiting for Bulldozer to launch to make my next rig, but I've been out of touch with modern PC components for quite a while.

    But we're both in luck. Recently there was a thread started here titled Q&A for you "I've been out of PCs so long, I don't know where to start" people. I suggest you check it out, and ask any questions there you may have. People usually respond with good help within minutes! If anything, it makes a good read. :D
  • _k_k P-Town, Texas Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    EA's min listing for the GPU really won't cut it. How well any of this will do is a semi-educated shot in the dark at best.
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    _k_ wrote:
    EA's min listing for the GPU really won't cut it. How well any of this will do is a semi-educated shot in the dark at best.
    Because the developers never thought to test it with their minimum hardware configuration :rolleyes:
    It won't run at 1920x1080 with everything turned up, but it will run.
  • BuddyJBuddyJ Dept. of Propaganda OKC Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    Great builds. These will all make good LAN boxes.
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    while I know it takes a great amount of time to configure these systems, a 320GB hard drive on the $1000 and $1200 systems. I can understand it on the low systems, but your steam folder is bigger than 320GB mertesn ;)

    you can easily get a 6950 for $20 cheaper, or go with a 90GB SSD and put that money towards a 1TB hard drive that will not fill up in two weeks

    just an idea
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    fatcat wrote:
    while I know it takes a great amount of time to configure these systems, a 320GB hard drive on the $1000 and $1200 systems. I can understand it on the low systems, but your steam folder is bigger than 320GB mertesn ;)

    you can easily get a 6950 for $20 cheaper, or go with a 90GB SSD and put that money towards a 1TB hard drive that will not fill up in two weeks

    just an idea
    I only presented a few of the many paths. The right path for you is not for me to decide grasshopper.

    Also:
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    I see somebody doesn't believe in uninstalling.
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    Snarkasm wrote:
    I see somebody doesn't believe in uninstalling.
    Or uses the NAS for more than just video
  • BuddyJBuddyJ Dept. of Propaganda OKC Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    But yeah, mertesn doesn't believe in uninstalling. He'd save the whole Internet if he could.
  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    I'm actually playing games on a dedicated SSD just for my Steam install, so I have to move things off from time to time, which is no big deal. The reduced load times are worth it.
  • ErrorNullTurnipErrorNullTurnip Illinois Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    I found a program a while ago called SteamMover. It moves games from your default steam directory into another drive and then makes a dynamic link to the original location. Very useful and works with almost all of my games.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    You don't even need a program. Steam, and all of its games, are perfectly happy to move from one drive to another--I did it with 300GB of installs a few weeks ago.
  • RyderRyder Kalamazoo, Mi Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    Thrax wrote:
    You don't even need a program. Steam, and all of its games, are perfectly happy to move from one drive to another--I did it with 300GB of installs a few weeks ago.
    I think he means you can have 2 steam directories ;)

    Old games on spinner, newer games you play all the time on SSD.
  • BandrikBandrik Elkhart, IN Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    Yeah, that's how I read it as well. Man, if I had a fast (but relatively small) SSD, I would definitely use something like SteamMover, while keeping the rest on a 7200RPM 2TB drive. Sounds like a smart and handy app.
  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    You can dump your steam apps onto an external drive and just re install Steam and your current play list on an SSD. I recommend it. Once you load Crysis levels in 20 seconds, and Portal 2 levels in about 6 seconds, you won't want to go back to waiting nearly a minute. It's more of a want item than a need, but if you can swing it its nice. It also reduces those little load stutters you might get in a game like Half Life 2. I have not done any testing on minumum frame rates, but some benchmarks claim it can help in that regard on really challenging games. Not doing so much to raise the average over a long session, but say you had a dip to 19 FPS in a gunfight in Crysis, it may be like 22, 23, nothing life changing, but the level load times, definitely a nice perk.
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    You don't strictly need an app, just move it yourself and then symlink the directory. An app is likely easier, though. push butan git fasty
  • BandrikBandrik Elkhart, IN Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    Oh yeah. The app would just be convenience to have a Steam game drive manager. But if it was done well, it would sure be nice.
  • ErrorNullTurnipErrorNullTurnip Illinois Icrontian
    edited August 2011
    RyderOCZ wrote:
    I think he means you can have 2 steam directories ;)
    Old games on spinner, newer games you play all the time on SSD.

    That's exactly it. I only have a 64GB SSD shared with the OS.
  • ZuntarZuntar North Carolina Icrontian
    edited September 2011
    OS on OCZ SSD Steam on spinner WD 640Gb Black, considering another SSD though.
  • edited September 2011
    I ended up just RAID0 my games drives. 2X500gb cheapies. I dont care if it crashes but it loads much quicker then a standard spin drive.

    I have a SSD for my OS but its more of a trial as well.

    I bought my 560ti OC for 200$, replaced my 5830 just so I could run this game smoothly haha.
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