Demoman versus Soldier: The war has begun

Brian Ambrozy 10 Dec, 2009 at 10:23pm ET Article published in Gaming

In the great competition between Demomen and Soldiers, sides are inevitably picked.

Valve has done it again, and made some spectacularly unforeseen change to the venerable Team Fortress 2 that has longtime players in a frenzy.

While the coming dual class update is “standard” in most respects, Valve have blindsided us with the announcement that in addition to the standard “three new weapons” for each class, there is a fourth weapon available—but there’s a catch.

Either the Soldier or the Demoman will get the weapon—but not both. A contest will decide who gets a fourth weapon; for the next week, any player who wants the Demoman to get the weapon needs to log in and kill soldiers, and vice versa.

The competition is being tracked at the War page at the Team Fortress blog.

If you’re looking for a server, there’s always Icrontic’s TF2 server…

Comments

11 Dec 2009 ~ 3:19am ardichoke But... but... but... I like both of them. Who should I kill? ;_;
11 Dec 2009 ~ 3:20am lunchb0x Maggot!
11 Dec 2009 ~ 3:23am pragtastic Demo will win this war.
11 Dec 2009 ~ 3:27am primesuspect Demo will win
11 Dec 2009 ~ 5:57am Canti Demomen MUST win this war! Souljas will fall by the millions befar the might of the whisky boughtul! Nothing can shtop us! Ar cause is joost, ar vichtary imminent! Lay down yer rawket lawnchairs now and we may yet spare ye the indignity of screaman, "KA-BOOOOM!" as ye cower in fear. Ta those of ye who oppose know that yer time is shart and yer struggle futile. Join us while ye still can er face the fury of ar resolve!
11 Dec 2009 ~ 5:57am bestav I want soldier to win but Demomen are more overpowered :/
11 Dec 2009 ~ 6:19am CrazyJoe So who's up for some all demo team vs. all soldier team battle on the IC server tonight?
11 Dec 2009 ~ 10:34am lol LoL soldier will win this war.. ask people ingame and i already got 200 points
11 Dec 2009 ~ 10:39am Serp 26 kills for the demos so far w00t!
11 Dec 2009 ~ 10:43am Koreish Is there another site keeping track because the update pages don't have that posted.
11 Dec 2009 ~ 10:49am Serp Been trolling the official TF2 forums and haven't seen another site yet. Those 26 kills were what I got this morning.
11 Dec 2009 ~ 11:23am QCH You are all maggots and bleeders...
11 Dec 2009 ~ 12:26pm mertesn

Crazy Joe wrote:

So who's up for some all demo team vs. all soldier team battle on the IC server tonight?

An excellent suggestion, sir.
11 Dec 2009 ~ 12:44pm Vengeance of course the demo will win :P gotta love the black scottish cyclops
11 Dec 2009 ~ 12:45pm Winfrey It seems to me that the best way to help your class win is to switch to medic and only heal that class.
11 Dec 2009 ~ 1:04pm _k It was interesting playing last night. It seemed like ampersand was having a hard time because of the massive spam that is happening every where. Thank goodness it is only for a few days because its making regular game play suck a little.
11 Dec 2009 ~ 1:10pm Snarkasm Goddamn I hope demo wins. Do me proud, darkies! I wish I could help...
11 Dec 2009 ~ 1:21pm rolleggroll

Winfrey wrote:

It seems to me that the best way to help your class win is to switch to medic and only heal that class.

Already on it.
11 Dec 2009 ~ 3:18pm Koreish

Winfrey wrote:

It seems to me that the best way to help your class win is to switch to medic and only heal that class.

Consider it done.
11 Dec 2009 ~ 5:19pm _k demo is ahead by just under 100,000
11 Dec 2009 ~ 8:53pm mas0n Soldiers FTW. I'll be doing my part later this evening.
11 Dec 2009 ~ 10:16pm _k soldier is going to spank demo. it would be hilarious if the soldier would get a nade launcher.
12 Dec 2009 ~ 2:24am Koreish

_k_ wrote:

demo is ahead by just under 100,000

How is demo ahead? Wouldn't they be behind by just 100,000? Remember the more dead the worse for the team.
12 Dec 2009 ~ 6:44am _k ya their death count is ahead, they have been killed more. Think more curvy you will get it.
12 Dec 2009 ~ 1:34pm Rexxar 326 Demo have died by my hand. For the Soldiers!
13 Dec 2009 ~ 2:22am Winfrey Demoman is getting stomped! 200k lead already! Fellow soldiers, we shall prevail!
13 Dec 2009 ~ 3:27am NiGHTS New update info: Engy Update hints: Crafting, Saxton Hale Comic

New Weapon Hints?
Via Reddit Comments: The sword (claymore) a new melee for the scottish demoman. The bugle a for the soldier, (sounds like a rocket jump for teammates). And the pickaxe would be a new weapon for the engineer if the rumors of a secret engie update are true, (will 'science' end the war?')
13 Dec 2009 ~ 3:43am cola I totally called the claymore, and I bet he yells "FREEDOM!!!" as he swings it.
13 Dec 2009 ~ 3:47am Winfrey A Claymore would be badass
13 Dec 2009 ~ 10:40am bob go demo demo
go demo demo
that demo rocks the best make him kill at any quest
second to none just kill a soldier and your done
thats crazy girl i swear i wonder what's in there
its just a new gun what a better gun why
because your killing you killing i command you to go killing
when i say lets kill you say soldiers
lets kill
soldiers
GO DEMO
15 Dec 2009 ~ 2:20am Koreish And the Demoman gets a kickass melee pairing.

http://www.teamfortress.com/demomanupdate/index.htm#item_1
15 Dec 2009 ~ 12:02pm BobbyDigi For the Soldiers!

As of last night there are 225,300 more dead Demos then Soldiers. Keep up the good work Boys!

-Bobby
15 Dec 2009 ~ 1:24pm cola Dude, I'm gonna WRECK all of you with the sweet mele combo.
15 Dec 2009 ~ 6:56pm BobbyDigi

cola wrote:

Dude, I'm gonna WRECK all of you with the sweet mele combo.

No you won't.

-Bobby
15 Dec 2009 ~ 7:39pm cola

Bobby1211 wrote:

No you won't.

-Bobby

FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN OR DIE
15 Dec 2009 ~ 7:55pm BobbyDigi I break your bottle... the intoxicating substance inside? I DRINK IT UP!!!!

-Bobby
16 Dec 2009 ~ 12:28am Koreish For the Soldiers who always dreamed of being a Sniper when growing up.

http://www.teamfortress.com/soldierupdate/index.htm#item_1
16 Dec 2009 ~ 12:32am cola I'll decapitate them before they get the chance to rocketsnipe me.
16 Dec 2009 ~ 12:36am BuddyJ http://whiskerino.org/2009/beards/patrick/14099/

It has spread to Whiskerino.
16 Dec 2009 ~ 12:48am cola Just got an idea, what if at the end of the week when the new weapon is revealed, the two classes make amends, and then decide to share the weapon?
16 Dec 2009 ~ 1:21am shwaip you have killed too many of my brethren, there is no going back.
16 Dec 2009 ~ 9:35am Annes

Buddy J wrote:

http://whiskerino.org/2009/beards/patrick/14099/

It has spread to Whiskerino.

That piece of art is fucking pro. If it were on Etsy, I would buy it. Even though I play the game biannually.
16 Dec 2009 ~ 10:50pm BobbyDigi The Propaganda contest winners have been announced/posted.

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3253

-Bobby
17 Dec 2009 ~ 12:20am pigflipper I am so going to rock the Direct Hit!
17 Dec 2009 ~ 10:48am _k The demo is closing in. Rally the troops and beat these drunkish turkeys back to the zoo where they below. There is no rest for the salami because it never gets tired CHARGE.
17 Dec 2009 ~ 11:45am shwaip no one should play soldier until the update has released.
17 Dec 2009 ~ 12:07pm pragtastic when does this end ?
17 Dec 2009 ~ 12:08pm Winfrey I'm starting to wonder if these numbers are faked and the special weapon will be given to the engineer instead...FOR SCIENCE!
17 Dec 2009 ~ 12:15pm Koreish Anyone notice the soldier's grenade achievement?
17 Dec 2009 ~ 12:24pm shwaip

Koreish wrote:

Anyone notice the soldier's grenade achievement?

from what i hear, one of your taunts is a suicide attack with a grenade from your equipment.
21 Dec 2009 ~ 2:59pm Cliff_Forster I hate the Demo update. It destroys the strategic value of the class, which is to essentially destroy the Engineers shit.

Now everyone just runs a muck lopping heads off.
21 Dec 2009 ~ 3:06pm BobbyDigi

Cliff_Forster wrote:

I hate the Demo update. It destroys the strategic value of the class, which is to essentially destroy the Engineers shit.

Now everyone just runs a muck lopping heads off.

While this is true, with players charging around on the other team that leaves room for scouts to jump over them and capture the objective (point, intel, ect..). They are not doing their team any favors.

I would love to get my hands on a Scottish Resistance though. Would like to craft it but I have a feeling I'll get it randomly before I get 4 other Demo items to create the needed Demo Token.

-Bobby
21 Dec 2009 ~ 3:13pm shwaip Just wait a while, people will go back to playing classes as normal.
21 Dec 2009 ~ 6:13pm primesuspect

Cliff_Forster wrote:

I hate the Demo update. It destroys the strategic value of the class, which is to essentially destroy the Engineers shit.

Now everyone just runs a muck lopping heads off.

As someone whose top two played classes are demoman and engineer, I will take exception to your brash and bold statement, sir.

The Demo's primary value is as a defensive class. Their ability to destroy engineer's shit is, while appreciated and valuable, not their best use except in a few key scenarios.

As an Engineer, I find the soldier, spy, medic/heavy to be more of a pain in my texas ass than demomen.

A demo, playing defensively, can be the key pivot to holding on to a point in a desperate pitched battle, or as a last line of defense in a flag room. Many are the times I've seen a scout, eager for glory, get blown to smithereens as his enthusiasm overshadowed his caution.

The class update brings an entirely new strategy to Demomen, which have always found their weakest point to be up-close combat.

I LOVE the game-changing tactics. I LOVE the fact that Valve has given us an entirely new way to look at the Cyclops.
21 Dec 2009 ~ 6:26pm BlackHawk

primesuspect wrote:

As an Engineer, I find the soldier, spy, medic/heavy to be more of a pain in my texas ass than demomen.
21 Dec 2009 ~ 6:36pm primesuspect :hate:
21 Dec 2009 ~ 7:12pm ardichoke
21 Dec 2009 ~ 9:29pm primesuspect
21 Dec 2009 ~ 9:30pm primesuspect :cat: TBH