No one should be ashamed of being a nerd

Candace Miller 22 Jan, 2013 at 6:35pm ET Article published in Life

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1. 
   22 Jan 2013 ~ 6:43pm BobbyDigi Well put.
   
   Welcome to Icrontic VampireKitten!
   
   -Digi
2. 
   22 Jan 2013 ~ 6:51pm MrTRiot Nerds usually get the highest paying jobs. Embrace!
   
   Good article!
3. 
   22 Jan 2013 ~ 7:05pm VampireKitten Thank you ^_^
4. 
   22 Jan 2013 ~ 7:06pm bright "Don’t pander to nerds with your feminine wiles. Boys: don’t wear glasses if you don’t really need to. The door swings both ways on the topic."
   
   By the same door swinging, don't pander to nerds with your masculine wiles. And if you're not a boy don't wear glasses if you don't need them, unless you want to try it. I know I want to try glasses some day.
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   22 Jan 2013 ~ 7:27pm Winfrey Glasses, not even once.
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   22 Jan 2013 ~ 7:35pm Teramona I often hide my glasses in public for fear of being called a "hipster" or a "nerd." This article has given me the strength to finally come out and say... "Hey, wait a minute. I'm tired of running in to street signs and phone poles."
7. 
   22 Jan 2013 ~ 8:09pm RahnalH102 Nice article. The whole "poking fun at nerds/geeks/etc" theme is kinda typical, but stating that it's a horrid existence is definitely pushing it.
   
   I'mma play the quote card with this:

   “Being a geek is all about being honest about what you enjoy and not being afraid to demonstrate that affection. It means never having to play it cool about how much you like something. It’s basically a license to proudly emote on a somewhat childish level rather than behave like a supposed adult. Being a geek is extremely liberating.”
   ― Simon Pegg
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   22 Jan 2013 ~ 8:17pm djmeph Let's talk about how misunderstood hipsters are. They are the new nerds, now that open displays of intelligence are socially acceptable again.
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   22 Jan 2013 ~ 8:27pm Winfrey What kind of hipster would talk about hipsters being misunderstood hipsters. That's just cray-cray.
10. 
    22 Jan 2013 ~ 8:34pm djmeph One that drinks beer and farts rainbows.
11. 
    22 Jan 2013 ~ 8:49pm MAGIC What a bunch of nerds.
12. 
    22 Jan 2013 ~ 9:13pm lmorchard RE: The Big Bang Theory - I love it, but just read this critique on the show.
    
    My take is that, as a nerd, I'm well aware of how ludicrous some of my propensities are and how overly-earnest I am in pursuit of them. And I laugh at myself, but I still think I'm enjoying the hell out of life. And, I kind of think that's what happens in The Big Bang Theory.
    
    Go ahead and laugh at me. I already have, and I'm having a ball. If you take yourself so seriously that you're afraid to be a screaming, arm-flapping idiot about something and even laugh at yourself while doing it - you're the one who's losing out, not me.
13. 
    22 Jan 2013 ~ 9:36pm cola Hey, I wear glasses, but then again contacts aren't really allowed on Subs so...I guess I do absolutely have to XD
14. 
    22 Jan 2013 ~ 9:45pm Pacifisto Well, there's an important difference between "don't wear glasses" and "don't wear glasses if you don't need them."
    
    But then again, cola's so attractive I'd be willing to bend the rules even if you didn't have to wear them.
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    22 Jan 2013 ~ 9:47pm Myrmidon My biggest criticism is with that PSA. Nobody is actually ashamed to be a nerd anymore - leastaways, none of the folks I know that spend copious amounts of time on their hobbies. Myself, I can thank Icrontic for that.
    
    Upon NYE 2012-2013, @Canti, @UPSLynx, @Teramona, @Bandrik and I walked past a gym where people were working out. And we teased them amongst ourselves. "OHHHH MAAAAN, look at those JOOOOOCKS. Hey jocky jock, why don't you go back to your gym and lift shit? Ohhhh, look at those biceps, huh? I bet your World of Warcraft character isn't even 85 yet! Joooooock!"
    
    True story.
    
    tl;dr, in my world, NERDS are the height of the social food chain.
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    22 Jan 2013 ~ 9:56pm djmeph It's too bad they took down all the videos of Big Bang Theory with the laugh tracks removed. It really showed how unfunny that show is.
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    22 Jan 2013 ~ 10:27pm QuadWhore Well... there are a lot of nerds who are very open about it, and it is very much more acceptable than in the past, but that doesn't mean that it's unanimously loved now. Kids and young adults are still afraid of being nerds, and we should teach them to EMBRACE IT.

    It's too bad they took down all the videos of Big Bang Theory with the laugh tracks removed. It really showed how unfunny that show is.

    I just looked some up on youtube and found some. I hated the show enough already, but dear god, man. At least it's concrete evidence to prove that the show is garbage.
18. 
    22 Jan 2013 ~ 10:37pm Canti Nothing better than asking a guy, "Hey bro, do you even lift?" while he's bench pressing.
    
    [spoiler]Because if he gets mad about it he'll drop the bar and you can use math to tell him how much his neck got squished.[/spoiler]
19. 
    22 Jan 2013 ~ 11:18pm Lincoln I get recommended Big Bang Theory a lot. I hate laugh tracks.
20. 
    22 Jan 2013 ~ 11:51pm Church4252 I have never been afraid of being a nerd. I have always embraced it. And @Myrmidon I used to be one of those jocks too.
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    23 Jan 2013 ~ 12:22am Thrax

    I get recommended Big Bang Theory a lot. I hate laugh tracks.

    I hate the show because it shows the socially maladjusted side. The 4chan side. The "oh god I might get germs for talking to other people" side. The "lol I have OCD because I'm particular about my action dolls" side. The "we're too fucking dense to realize bronies are a sly joke, so we're taking our furry fetish there!" side.
    
    I don't like that side. And I hate that the show has popularized/publicized it.
22. 
    23 Jan 2013 ~ 9:48am JBoogaloo If the show is taken for what it is, then it really isn't that bad. Big Bang is no different a show than The Jeffersons, Outsourced, Married with Children, All in the Family, Tyler Perry's whatever, any political based "corruption/scandal" show, The Cleveland show, Family Guy, the list goes on. These are all shows that take stereotypes to the extreme and poke fun at them. Sure, it tends to lump many people into groups but only to the ones that are too stupid to realize that television isn't reality. Unfortunately, there are a great number of these people and they seem to outnumber the intelligent. I don't personally think it's so much the fault of the media painting stereotypes in a bad light (because let's be honest, stereotypes are hilarious and make for great humor) it's the person (includes parents, etc...) that isn't or can't differentiate between tv and life and trying to live one like the other.
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    23 Jan 2013 ~ 9:56am Winfrey The show's not really for the nerdy, it's for "normal" people that have nerdy friends. Which there are a lot of, so the show stays on air.
24. 
    23 Jan 2013 ~ 10:00am Kwitko Nerd pride, yo. I'm so nerdy I listen to nerdcore hip-hop.
    
    
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    23 Jan 2013 ~ 10:22am CB

    The show's not really for the nerdy, it's for "normal" people that have nerdy friends. Which there are a lot of, so the show stays on air.

    Exactly. It's the diffence between laughing with and laughing at.
    
    (I get recommended this show often as well, especially by my students. I watched through the first season to give it a chance. It had its moments but I can't say it was particularly compelling. Partly, however, it's because I'm not really a sit-com kind of guy. Seinfeld is the only one I've ever really enjoyed.)
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    23 Jan 2013 ~ 10:35am I-need-a-better-name The whole nerd thing is just too self aware for my tastes. When I was in school I knew exactly what a nerd was and I knew exactly why I wasn't one (no pocket protector, no glasses, I wasn't a teacher's pet). But let's be honest, the definition has broadened somewhat and a lot of people who are technically geeks are claiming the nerd moniker for themselves. We're just lucky that culture caught up to us. Maybe some day even the dorks will have a place in society.
27. 
    23 Jan 2013 ~ 10:47am cola Anyone who hates on me for being a nerd gets to meet my collection of everloving dickclowns.
    
    Also, the school I'm at right now is like 90% nerds, including the staff. It. Is. Awesome.
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    23 Jan 2013 ~ 11:32am Myrmidon

    I have never been afraid of being a nerd. I have always embraced it. And @Myrmidon I used to be one of those jocks too.

    jeeeeeeeOOOOOOOOOOOOCK
    
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    23 Jan 2013 ~ 1:47pm VampireKitten Okay so, here are some extra thoughts. I personally don't have a problem with TBBT, it's the closest things to a nerd sitcom on TV and I find it quite enjoyable at times.
    
    I agree with Bright, I probably should have stated the same thing about girls.
    
    I also more or less drift towards the Simon Pegg quote that was posted. He's got it right and I wish more people would see that quote, thanks for posting it.
    
    I have something for hipsters:
30. 
    23 Jan 2013 ~ 1:53pm djmeph I was hoping this discussion wouldn't denigrate into pontification over the difference between a nerd and a geek.
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    23 Jan 2013 ~ 10:38pm If you are a nerd who doesn't see much daylight, you should be ashamed. Not because you are a nerd, but the fact that your hobby is keeping you from making general interaction with people..
    
    And Yes, dont be a fake either just for attention, drop the big ass glasses, and try being yourself for a change.
    
    Thank you..
32. 
    23 Jan 2013 ~ 11:14pm Canti
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    23 Jan 2013 ~ 11:37pm djmeph but I love my glasses. I get them big so they don't break.
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    23 Jan 2013 ~ 11:43pm GnomeQueen Yeaaa, I have a lot of problems with this PSA on a variety of different levels.
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    24 Jan 2013 ~ 1:52pm LightningRunner I agree with the views of this article; we have a lot more going for us nerds than we've had in the past. We get higher-paying jobs than the average person, thanks to some of our technical skills, and for the first time ever, we have an entire sect of certain nerds (bronies), that are openly welcome by the community, for the most part. We shouldn't be ashamed with what we do, because what we do could end up landing us somewhere that would have the average person fuming in jealousy. Just look at Rooster Teeth, at first they were just a bunch of nerds doing machinema and no real funding, but now they have ascended and have a partnership with Bungie, who do their animations for Red vs Blue. All in all, don't let the rest of the world try to take you down just because of what you like to do, collect, etc.
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    24 Jan 2013 ~ 2:05pm fatcat tldr I'm a jock and a nerd. dealwithit ;)
37. 
    24 Jan 2013 ~ 3:51pm Teramona Hi, there. I'm Terin of Icrontic fame. You might know me from such threads as "Terin's Tasty Teatime Treats", and "Bobby Miller Is Not A Beer." I have a lot of thoughts on this subject. Though, as I think them to myself, some are a little conflicting. I will attempt to map them out in the string of consciousness that follows. Read, don't read, but above all... don't get offended. This isn't directed at anyone specific.
    
    What I think, is that nerdom shouldn't be treated with any kind of exclusivity. I was a drama geek in high school. I've always been very proud of my ability to read and write well, foregoing parties to instead stay home and write a story. I was never very popular, and was always classed as kind of a "nerd". Recently, my roommate referred to me as a "gamer", though I wouldn't have ever technically applied that term to myself. Also, I was a cheerleader. Also, I ran half marathons, and spent A LOT of time in the gym to train. I ran on the hamster wheel, I box jumped, I cycled... and bro? I lifted.
    
    Now, what does any of that really say about me? Nothing. It tells you about my hobbies, but it doesn't tell you about my motivations. It doesn't tell you what kind of person I am. When we start treating a word like some kind of noble distinction, it becomes very very divisive... especially when it has as much to do with how a person is perceived as it does with how someone perceives themselves (i.e. the famed "you're not a hipster if you say you are, but you are if you say you're not" argument).
    
    Am I a nerd? I don't know. But I do know it's conversations like this that make me feel inherently excluded... in a forum where I have otherwise come to feel very comfortable. I don't know if I'm a gamer now, I just know that I enjoy playing games. I don't know if I'm a hipster because I have thick plastic glasses, or I wear scarves in what some people might consider warm weather, or because I obsessively collect tea memorabilia. I also don't particularly care. It's subjective, and everyone is going to have a different opinion.
    
    So, I mean, I say let them wear their big fake glasses. Let Big Bang Theory cater to people who only get one side of the whole equation. Let them. Because if you're really being true to yourself... what do you care? It only becomes a problem if you think these things threaten your own identity. If you know who you are outside the context of what everyone else might think or say you are, then you don't need titles.
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    24 Jan 2013 ~ 3:57pm Thrax

    Am I a nerd?

    
    
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    24 Jan 2013 ~ 4:12pm GnomeQueen I think the article did a good job of pointing out that it's dumb to be ashamed of being a nerd anymore. I really don't think that most people are. I admit that I still feel some trepidation about talking about nerdy things in some company, but I try to do my best to ignore it. The main issue is with older generations; a lot of them simply do not understand typically nerdy things on a fundamental level. And then of course you have my parents, but that's an entirely different issue. *Rolls eyes*
    
    My main issue with the PSA, which @Teramona (Terry) touched on a little, is the way it puts down the girl nerd in the video; really, the way that nerd culture can be so exclusive in general. The girl in the video is set up to sound like she's fake and really has no idea what she's talking about, but nothing she actually does shows that. I understand the reason why there's a desire to set up barriers between who is a nerd and who isn't, considering that some of us went through a lot of bullying as kids because of our love of nerdy things, but there's really no way to tell who has and who hasn't suffered the nerd hate without walking in their shoes.
    
    I see this nerd outrage come down the most on girls; specifically, pretty girls at cons. Yes, there are pretty girls who wear costumes just to get attention; that is and has always been true. But there are also plenty of pretty girls (wearing glasses) who know exactly what they're talking about and what they're doing-- and the process by which one figures out if someone is a "fake" nerd or a "real" nerd is often more damaging to the real nerds than to the fake ones.
    
    None of us should be ashamed to be nerds, and none of us should have to defend our nerd cred either. I'm tired of being told that I'm not a nerd because of X, Y and Z. Yes, I know that I've jokingly told people before that they aren't gamers for whatever reason (I believe I started a thread once called "you can't call yourself a gamer if...." alleging that you weren't a gamer if you hadn't played the HL2 series) but I honestly did it more to start discussion that to really claim that people aren't gamers. I am told quite seriously all the time that I can't really be a nerd. (But if I did bother any of you with that post I do apologize. But go play HL2. Srs).
    
    I'M A NERD BITCHES, DEAL WITH IT.
40. 
    24 Jan 2013 ~ 5:18pm Cliff_Forster Growing up in the 80's being a nerd meant a bunch of kid's built a backpack wall at the lunch table to keep your cooties off of them. We have come a long way baby!
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    24 Jan 2013 ~ 5:31pm GnomeQueen

    Growing up in the 80's being a nerd meant a bunch of kid's built a backpack wall at the lunch table to keep your cooties off of them. We have come a long way baby!

    Or you ate alone. :/
    
    Although to be fair, back then I was really more of a dork than a nerd.
    
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    24 Jan 2013 ~ 5:35pm Teramona I ate lunch with my best friend, and a basketball hoop that we lovingly referred to as "Pole." I often attribute human feelings to inanimate objects. The scene in castaway when Wilson gets lost rips me apart inside.
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    24 Jan 2013 ~ 10:40pm Thrax

    I ate lunch with my best friend, and a basketball hoop that we lovingly referred to as "Pole." I often attribute human feelings to inanimate objects. The scene in castaway when Wilson gets lost rips me apart inside.

    
    
    ...because people can connect with anything. We can sympathize with a pencil, we can forgive a shark, and we can give Ben Affleck an Academy Award for Screenwriting. People can find the good in just about anything except themselves.
    
    #sixseasonsandamovie
44. 
    24 Jan 2013 ~ 11:12pm Canti Sympathize with a pencil you say? What about....this one?
    
    [spoiler][spoiler]Dohohohahaoho you thought it was going to be Terin's scary ass pencilface thing didn't you?[spoiler]Nooooooope not doing that[spoiler][spoiler]unless she insists on posting it recently and making it easy to find.[/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler]
45. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 12:33pm djmeph Let's face it, there's never been a better time to be a nerd in the history of the world.
46. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 3:41pm _k_ The French Renaissance
47. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 4:26pm shwaip Wait should I be ashamed of being ashamed of being a nerd?
48. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 4:31pm Signal

    Wait should I be ashamed of being ashamed of being a nerd?

    Yes, that was the point of the article.
    
49. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 5:51pm djmeph I've heard of shame shaming, but this is ridiculous.
50. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 5:52pm Thrax Allow me to be the first to submit that I no longer have any grasp of what is occurring in this thread.
51. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 6:09pm djmeph

    Allow me to be the first to submit that I no longer have any grasp of what is occurring in this thread.

    
52. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 6:19pm Tushon

    Allow me to be the first to submit that I no longer have any grasp of what is occurring in this thread.

    

    
53. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 9:29pm Teramona I've been waiting for this to happen. Do we all get naked now?
54. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 9:36pm djmeph

    I've been waiting for this to happen. Do we all get naked now?

    
    
55. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 9:59pm GnomeQueen
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    25 Jan 2013 ~ 10:02pm GnomeQueen
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    25 Jan 2013 ~ 10:17pm Canti
    
    [spoiler]You now realize that DOG is naked.[/spoiler]
58. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 10:50pm Thrax

    Allow me to be the first to submit that I no longer have any grasp of what is occurring in this thread.

    

    
59. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 11:02pm Teramona But seriously... don't be ashamed to be a naked nerd.
60. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 11:24pm GnomeQueen That's my new webshow you guys, the Naked Nerd. I'm going to do game and tech reviews nekkid.
61. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 11:30pm djmeph

    That's my new webshow you guys, the Naked Nerd. I'm going to do game and tech reviews nekkid.

    
    
62. 
    25 Jan 2013 ~ 11:41pm Teramona @Thrax, Sidenote: I love Chris O'Dowd.
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    26 Jan 2013 ~ 2:45am Church4252
    
    
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    26 Jan 2013 ~ 10:10am MAGIC

    But seriously... don't be ashamed to be a naked nerd.