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Palit 9600GT 1GB Sonic and HD3850 Super+1GB

Palit 9600GT 1GB Sonic and HD3850 Super+1GB

Power Consumption, Temperature and Overclocking

Power consumption was measured using a simple AC power meter. Keep in mind that the full system power consumption is measured (not including the monitor). Full GPU load was achieved using ATITool and the fuzzy cube rendering. In my experience, this puts a substantial and consistent load on the GPU.

The HD3850s are definitely very power efficient. The Reference HD3850 consumes about 7W more at load, but almost 20W less at idle. I’m not entirely sure what would account for this, but there are significant physical differences between the two cards, so I am not overly surprised. All of the cards didn’t push the system beyond 200W, even with a Q6600 at 3GHz.

The two Palit cards do very well at keeping GPU temperature down. The 9600GT cooler barely breaks 60 degrees at full load and the Super+1GB never sees 60 degrees. Forcing fan speed to 100% does make a large difference with the 9600GT, but barely makes a difference with the Super+1GB. Both Palit cards are unfortuantely a bit on the loud side. I could clearly hear the 60mm fan over all other case fans. Thankfully, they didn’t appear to ramp up in speed during any of the testing. At full speed, they are very loud and are likely profiled to save the card from cooking itself; you should never hear them at that speed under normal conditions. The Reference HD3850 cooler does not do nearly as well as the Super+1GB. Its strength lies in its silence; at default fan speeds, it is inaudable over the case and CPU fans. At full speed, it is very loud.

Overclocking the Sonic 9600GT 1GB was a pleasant experience. There is an even 100MHz of headroom on both the core clock and memory clock. This is not bad considering the already 50 GPU and 200MHz memory overclock out of the box. Shader clocks are increased to 2010MHz as a result (up from 1750MHz).

The Super+1GB also had a bit of overclocking headroom on tap. Most significant and useful is the 140MHz overclock on the memory. Since this card is bandwidth limited, I was pleased to see a theoretical increase in memory bandwidth from 25GB/s to 34.6GB/s. Although I didn’t have time to test, I suspect that this would equate to significant real world gains. As always, your milage may vary when it comes to overclocking.

Conclusion

Palit GeForce 9600GT 1GB Sonic

Palit has put together a great non-reference 9600GT with their 1GB Sonic edition. With a full gigabyte on onboard GDDR3, it is able to maintain reasonable framerates at higher resolutions and higher levels of antialiasing. Their large two slot, dual heatpipe cooling solution is also very effective and keeps the G94 GPU nice and cool under load. With considerable clock speed increases of 50MHz on the core and 200MHz on the GDDR3, the 1GB Sonic really gives reference 9600GTs a run for their money. Aside from these great features, the 1GB Sonic also benefits from some wonderful multimedia extras. Not many 9600GTs feature an onboard HDMI port, let alone a DisplayPort connector. Pricing in at around $119 after rebates, it is about $20 more expensive than your average vanilla 9600GT. Considering it’s features, higher clock speeds and huge 1GB of memory, it is a good deal. If you’re looking for a 9600GT today, this one should be high on your list.

About the only criticism I have of the 1GB Sonic is it’s noise levels. It is not overly loud, but it is definitely noticeable. To its credit though, the cooler is very effective. It is ultimately something a prospective buyer will have to weigh—cooling performance or silence. I’m happy to award Palit’s GeForce 9600GT 1GB Sonic with Icrontic’s “Stamp of Approval” award.

Pros:

  • 1GB of GDDR3
  • Overclocked out of the box at 700/2000MHz
  • Effective dual slot, dual heatpipe cooler
  • Dual DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort connectors
  • Tomb Raider Anniversary included

Cons:

  • 60mm fan a bit loud

Palit Radeon HD3850 Super+1GB

Palit took the road less traveled with their Super+1GB and revamped AMD/ATI’s reference design quite a bit. Buyers looking for an HTPC card will be pleased to see the included HDMI port. Palit’s large orb style HSF has proven to be an effective cooling solution, besting the reference cooler by a substantial margin. The small 60mm fan used is unfortunately a bit on the loud side, but again, it is a cooling performance vs silence equation that buyers will have to weigh.

Although the Super+1GB packs four times the memory of the AMD/ATI HD3850 reference, the use of DDR2 has severely bottlenecked the card. The 256MB reference card outperformed the Super+1GB by a substantial margin in almost all tests. It was able to maintain a better minimum frame rate during high resolution Crysis testing, but that is unfortunately not enough to make up for the significant performance delta in most other scenarios. Although the extra memory can be beneficial as we have seen, frame rates are already so low at that point that gaming would not be very pleasant. The choice to use DDR2 was undoubtedly done to keep the cost of the card low. Coming in at about the same price as the 256MB GDDR3 HD3850s and $20-30 less than the 512MB GDDR3 models, it appears to be a great deal. Palit definitely meant well trying to provide consumers with a much larger memory capacity while keeping the card priced low, but the unfortunate fact is that more is not always better. Had Palit included 1GB of GDDR3 with the Super+1GB, the outcome of our testing would have been completely different.

Performance deltas aside, the Super+1GB would make a great low-cost HTPC card.   AMD/ATI’s 3800 series GPUs are an excellent choice for this purpose thanks to hardware video decoding and various other features. The onboard HDMI port is also a bonus in this regard. The Super+1GB does have a place in the very diverse range of products that Palit offers, but buyers need to understand that greater memory capacity alone does not always equate to better performance; there are other specifications that must be taken into consideration.

Pros:

  • HSF outperforms the reference card
  • HDMI port

Cons:

  • Use of DDR2 severely bottlenecks the card
  • No crossfire bridge included
  • 60mm fan a bit loud

Check the best prices on the 9600GT and HD3850 Super on the Icrontic Marketplace.

A special note: If you’ve been keeping up with our feature content, you’ve probably noticed that this is the first full-blown graphics card review that we’ve written in several years. In this business, prospective companies notice this and are hesitant to send samples as a result. Of course, this presents a bit of a dilemma—we can’t get samples because we haven’t reviewed samples (talk about being between a rock and a hard place!) We’d just like to take this chance upfront to thank Palit Multimedia for putting some confidence in Icrontic and giving us the opportunity to test two of their cards today.

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Comments

  1. Winfrey
    Winfrey Very good writeup as always mike! Before I read this article I didn't know very much at all about Palit in the video card industry. I got a pretty good impression from this article though:thumbup
  2. Zuntar
    Zuntar Nice review Mike, easy to see charts too! Thanks!!!
  3. zero-counter
    zero-counter Would it have made more sense to compare the 9600gt 1GB DDR3 version to the 9600gt 512MB DDR3 version, in proving differences in memory size?

    The current comparison seems biased..considering memory type differences between the two 1 GB cards and the other card having a smaller memory size yet comparable memory type. These specifications can definitely impact the outcome of a benchmark comparison. On that note, your graphs showed the 3850/256MB/DDR3 as a very close contender for the 9600GT, given its memory deficiency.

    It is obvious in your benchmarks, that the memory type made a difference when comparing the 3850 ref. 256MB/DDR3 model to the 3850 1GB/DDR2 one. Why not at least the 512MB version of the 3850 if you were not able to procure a 1GB one (only current one I have found is the CF version)? I am aware that the tests are limited to what is on hand and available to you.

    Otherwise, the review was informative when comparing your charted info to other reviews out there to the 512MB version of the card in discussion (9600gt).

    Please correct me if my logic is flawed. Thanks! :)
  4. BuddyJ
    BuddyJ
    Would it have made more sense to compare the 9600gt 1GB DDR3 version to the 9600gt 512MB DDR3 version, in proving differences in memory size?

    Sure, it would have been great. Send us one.
    The current comparison seems biased..considering memory type differences between the two 1 GB cards and the other card having a smaller memory size yet comparable memory type. bla bla bla

    I don't think bias enters the picture. It's an apples to apples comparison for the ATI cards, with an orange thrown in because we were graciously provided with it, plus it gave readers a sense of what sort of performance they can get from a similarly priced card. Both Palit cards are right around $130.
    I am aware that the tests are limited to what is on hand and available to you.

    That should alone should have answered your original question.
  5. zero-counter
    zero-counter
    Buddy J wrote:
    Sure, it would have been great. Send us one.
    You may see the point I am attempting to push. If you want to be unbiased, yet informative, then you should procure samples of similar qualities for testing. If someone wants to pay shipping both ways, I could possibly loan a couple of things in the best interests of the site, let me know.
    Buddy J wrote:
    I don't think bias enters the picture. It's an apples to apples comparison for the ATI cards, with an orange thrown in because we were graciously provided with it, plus it gave readers a sense of what sort of performance they can get from a similarly priced card. Both Palit cards are right around $130.
    Apples to apples as in Fujis to Granny Smiths? Or Fujis to Fujis? The 3850 GPU core is identical, yes. The orange, as you stated, was admittedly the control in the review albeit not related to the 9600gt. But the memory type can impact performance severly, especially when enabling AA and AF with higher resolutions. I understand the price issue, but there is more to consider here.
    Buddy J wrote:
    That should alone should have answered your original question.
    This was obviously understood (as pointed out) and posted so that everyone can see that a lack of resources is not justification for a somewhat biased review. For future reference so as this issue does not repeat itself, reviews might be clear, concise, fair, and unjust (every other aspect of the review was absolutely great, just the odd comparison). I said that in hopes that future reviewers take this into consideration. ;)
  6. Thrax
    Thrax I don't think bias means what you think it means.
  7. lemonlime
    lemonlime You are 100% correct about including the other cards, zero.counter. Including results for a 512MB 9600GT and 512MB GDDR3 HD3850 would have been ideal. Believe me, I was of the same school of thought. I would have included them if I could have. The review definitely lacked the appropriate range of competitive products to provide an accurate picture of their abilities. None the less, I did the best I could with what I had to work with.

    I should mention that the 256MB HD3850 was paid for out of my own pocket for this review. It wasn't overly expensive, so I didn't mind. Beyond that, I'm afraid I just can't buy three aging cards. I don't get to keep the two Palit cards, (they are on their way to other Icrontic reviewers for other projects) so this is definitely not something I can justify. Icrontic was not able to pitch in for additional hardware and we had nothing else coming from other manufacturers, so that is all I had.

    It is very challenging to produce a solid review without all of the appropriate tools. I will see about adding a paragraph to the introduction of the article to forewarn readers about the lack of comparison cards and the apples to oranges comparison of the 9600GT and HD3850s. I do appreciate the feedback and the offer to lend hardware for review. We'll definitely take you up on that next time :)
  8. zero-counter
    zero-counter
    Thrax wrote:
    I don't think bias means what you think it means.
    Really? Care to elaborate? There are two issues at hand, availability of parts and the decision to run the review...displaying a seemingly biased outcome, given the details. To push the review, knowing what i have stated, could be viewed as being bias. Relatively speaking of course.

    Lemonlime...your article is great, and I understand the constraints. I was just bringing up a point that I am pretty sure the normal visitor of Icrontic would understand already, but someone googling the card and arriving at the article may not fully understand the comparison for whatever reason. Just a point. I appreciate your response and look forward to future reviews! :)

    I love this site, and will always view it as a useful, entertaining, and intellectually enveloping place to visit.

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