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The Icrontic Coffee Discussion

primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposalDetroit, MI Icrontian
edited Jul 2013 in Food & Drink
So I got this for Christmas

Vacuum Siphon coffee pot

It's a vacuum siphon coffeemaker. I know a couple other Icrontians have them too (@djmeph and @buddyj). Those of you who went to the coffee cupping at Chazzano know what this is all about.

So far, it's my favorite way of making coffee. It solves the super-sensitive bitterness problem that comes from the French press and it's cheaper and less messy than hand-pour. You get a mellower cup from it, so it takes bold beans really well (I'm drinking Sumatra Mandheling right now and it's super smooth).
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  • BobbyDigiBobbyDigi ? R U #Hats ! SoCal Icrontian
    What is this wizardry? I am genuinely interested in what that beaker lookin thing does.

    -Digi
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    It boils the water, creating pressure in the carafe; pressure pushes the water up through the tube into the top chamber. The top chamber contains the coffee grounds and a filter at the bottom. The coffee brews in the top chamber. When you remove the carafe from the heat, the carafe cools, and the vacuum in the bottom sucks the coffee through the filter and back into the carafe. It's sort of like espresso in that it uses pressure to pull water through the grounds and the filter.
  • TeramonaTeramona Baroness von Puttenham In a cute little love nest with Mymidan. Icrontian
    It was fun gathering round to watch science in the kitchen.
  • RyderRyder Kalamazoo, Mi Icrontian
  • GargoyleGargoyle Illinois Icrontian
    Hmm, less bitterness, you say? Maybe it's time to give it a try.
  • BuddyJBuddyJ Dept. of Propaganda OKC Icrontian
    Much less bitterness. It takes time to brew a pot but the end results are totally worth it. I highly recommend getting one and giving it a try.
  • JokkeJokke Nuvsvaag, Norway Icrontian
    I like coffee, but I'm don't really mind what brand it is or method of preparation. This looks cool though, I'm looking forward to see it live someday.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Orange, CA Icrontian
    Oddly enough, I've never noticed excessive bitterness from the french press. How much extra time does this vacuum extractor take to brew a cup vs. the french press?
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    A few minutes more, but the cleanup takes a bit longer too. I clean mine thoroughly after every brew, otherwise coffee skank will build up in the top glass.
  • PirateNinjaPirateNinja Mountains Icrontian
    My friend's dad collects antique siphon pots from Mexico. They make the best damn coffee. It's so good.

    At the moment, I drink pre-ground Coffee Bean Columbia roast from a Mr. Coffee 5 cup dripper. I do make the coarse grind and use my french press about 6 times per year, special occasions really. Otherwise, Coffee Bean is the frigin stuff. Not sure if they exist in the east coast.
  • ZuntarZuntar North Carolina Icrontian
    Hmm sounds messy, but good!
  • ardichokeardichoke Buttes Master B Lansing, MI Icrontian
    edited Jan 2012
    A few minutes more, but the cleanup takes a bit longer too. I clean mine thoroughly after every brew, otherwise coffee skank will build up in the top glass.
    That coffee skank is essential oils. A little bit of build up can enhance flavors. You definitely don't want too much build up though or it may start to go rancid. Most places I've read suggest cleaning with vinegar water around once a week, but not after every pot.

    Also, I've never noticed bitterness with my french press... especially compared to drip coffee. I love my french press (and my AeroPress if I just want 1 cup of coffee on the quick).
  • IlriyasIlriyas Magician, Sunbro, Grossly Incandescent Toronto, Ontario Icrontian
    Hmm sounds messy, but good!
    Scary but fun!

    I'm not a big fan of coffee, every blend I've had I've found to be far too bitter. Of course that considered I haven't tried coffee in several months so perhaps its time to give it a go again.
  • BasilBasil Nubcaek IREEELAND Icrontian
    Bah coffee.

    Man up, drink tea.

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    Teramona
  • IlriyasIlriyas Magician, Sunbro, Grossly Incandescent Toronto, Ontario Icrontian
    Bah coffee.

    Pony up, drink tea.
    ^FTFY

    Tried coffee, still hate it, I'm going back to tea.

  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    I'm a firm believer that anyone who hates coffee has just never actually had good coffee. And it's easy to do that: bad coffee is EVERYWHERE. You cannot possibly have a good cup of coffee at 95% of coffee shops, chain stores, etc.

    There are only a few coffee shops who understand the true art of making a good cup of coffee—one that tastes like it smells.

    Luckily, we have a few around here. I would challenge ANYONE who doesn't like coffee to attend a cupping with me at Chazzano. It will change everything.
  • IlriyasIlriyas Magician, Sunbro, Grossly Incandescent Toronto, Ontario Icrontian
    Luckily, we have a few around here. I would challenge ANYONE who doesn't like coffee to attend a cupping with me at Chazzano. It will change everything.
    Might also have to do with the fact that I'm drinking coffee the same way I drink tea, straight.

    Also if EXPO is near Chazzanos then bring it on.
  • I looooooooooooove coffee
  • UPSLynxUPSLynx The Dean of Computer Graphics Redwood City, CA Icrontian
    Chazzano is real talk. Changed my life. @Cherplunka and I couldn't stand the crappy beans and $10 grinder we were using after we got home from the Chazzano coffee cupping. I had to upgrade:

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    Capresso Burr grinder - worth every single penny spent on it. The grind makes a world of difference, and this thing grinds to perfection.

    I import my coffee from Detroit when I can (When I get a new job, I'll be buying Chazzano exclusively). Meantime, I've found Clock Tower roasters here in the Bay Area to be awesome. I've got some of their Sumatra blend right now. Tasty stuff.

    At Chazzano, we tasted french press and siphon methods side by side. I preferred the french press, though the Siphon was a very, very close second. I don't mind the bitterness in french press (If I even notice it at all).

  • JokkeJokke Nuvsvaag, Norway Icrontian
    edited Jan 2012
    Might also have to do with the fact that I'm drinking coffee the same way I drink tea, straight.
    The only way to drink coffee, IMO.

    Also if EXPO is near Chazzanos then bring it on.
    I'm in for that, if I can attend.


  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Orange, CA Icrontian
    I'm going to have to start trying to create the Expo schedule beginning in January this year, aren't I?
  • UPSLynxUPSLynx The Dean of Computer Graphics Redwood City, CA Icrontian
    You're already too late.
  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Baltimore, MD Icrontian
    Has anyone here given cold brewing a try? I've been curious to try it because I have some stomach issues, but despite myself, I can't seem to give up coffee. I understand some cold brewing techniques remove about 50% of the oils and acid content without a negative impact on flavor, but I've always been a little skeptical about it.
  • SonorousSonorous Shredmaster Virginia Icrontian
    ZOMG! Just got a french press... What coffee do you guys buy? I want to try all of it.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    http://chazzanocoffee.com is pretty much the pinnacle, as you'll discover at Expo ;)
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    Sonorous said:

    ZOMG! Just got a french press... What coffee do you guys buy? I want to try all of it.

    Since Chazzano is nowhere near me, I go through Green Mountain Coffee for whole beans.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Punta Gorda, FL Icrontian
    mertesn said:


    Since Chazzano is nowhere near me, I go through Green Mountain Coffee for whole beans.

    But Chazzano has a website and ships Priority Mail.... :)

    primesuspect
  • SonorousSonorous Shredmaster Virginia Icrontian
    I'll just order from both!
  • AnnesAnnes Alexandria, VA Icrontian
    I'm with @primesuspect. We were members of the coffee club there for a year, tried to switch to another, supposedly "better", coffee club and promptly said "lol, ok" and switched back to Chazzano.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Punta Gorda, FL Icrontian
    I've only had Chazzano at Primesuspect's place (the Warren one), and have ordered coffee for him, but they were efficient and nice to me when they were out of coffee they said so, and said when they would have it to ship and then shipped. When they had it they shipped right away, like same to next day.
    Ask Prime what his favorite is.....
  • TeramonaTeramona Baroness von Puttenham In a cute little love nest with Mymidan. Icrontian
    Basil said:

    Bah coffee.

    Man up, drink tea.

    image

    For great justice!


  • JBoogalooJBoogaloo This too shall pass... Virginia...The Northern part Icrontian
    But, real women drink Turkish coffee :D
    SonorousAnnes
  • TeramonaTeramona Baroness von Puttenham In a cute little love nest with Mymidan. Icrontian
    edited Jun 2013
    JBoogaloo said:

    But, real women drink Turkish coffee :D

    You're right. This is actually Dan. It's time you all knew the truth...

    You see, following the summer of 2011, I became increasingly aware that loneliness was turning me in to a sad, bitter, rough husk (much like the green shell that wraps so tightly around the corn of my precious homeland - the sparkling jewel of America that is Iowa). I had to do something. People didn't interest me anymore, but I didn't want to face the world on my own. So I invented... her.

    Yes. Yes, it's true.

    I set about weaving an elaborate mythology so thorough and so complete, that not even the keenest eye among you could find fault with it. I spent hours digitally rendering a lifelike imagine of the facade that was to become "My Terin." I knew that wouldn't be enough, though. Oh, no. I had to create a holographic interface with which people could interact in real space and time. When ICNY rolled around that winter, she was ready. No one ever even suspected. Not even my own mother.

    After my deception was was complete and Terin's existence in peoples' minds was absolute... I invented the Lulz Wars. For you see, I could not handle my newfound peace. I needed to put Terin, really just a manifestation of my own self doubt and also secret vanities, in to battle. A battle where she would say things and react to things as I had heretofore only wished to. Her crushing defeat was the beginning of my realizing that Terin couldn't fight my battles for me forever. Indeed, I realized that I would have to get rid of her all together one day.

    So, I feigned a proposal. The imagined "yes" was enough to make people care again. Suddenly the Lulz War did not seem such a sad, sad loss.

    But now you know. Now you know everything.

    ... Ooooor, Terin's real, and just doesn't like coffee.
    primesuspectMyrmidonCrazyJoeKoreish
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    Teramona said:

    JBoogaloo said:

    But, real women drink Turkish coffee :D

    You're right. This is actually Dan. It's time you all knew the truth...

    You see, following the summer of 2011, I became increasingly aware that loneliness was turning me in to a sad, bitter, rough husk (much like the green shell that wraps so tightly around the corn of my precious homeland - the sparkling jewel of America that is Iowa). I had to do something. People didn't interest me anymore, but I didn't want to face the world on my own. So I invented... her.

    Yes. Yes, it's true.

    I set about weaving an elaborate mythology so thorough and so complete, that not even the keenest eye among you could find fault with it. I spent hours digitally rendering a lifelike imagine of the facade that was to become "My Terin." I knew that wouldn't be enough, though. Oh, no. I had to create a holographic interface with which people could interact in real space and time. When ICNY rolled around that winter, she was ready. No one ever even suspected. Not even my own mother.

    After my deception was was complete and Terin's existence in peoples' minds was absolute... I invented the Lulz Wars. For you see, I could not handle my newfound peace. I needed to put Terin, really just a manifestation of my own self doubt and also secret vanities, in to battle. A battle where she would say things and react to things as I had heretofore only wished to. Her crushing defeat was the beginning of my realizing that Terin couldn't fight my battles for me forever. Indeed, I realized that I would have to get rid of her all together one day.

    So, I feigned a proposal. The imagined "yes" was enough to make people care again. Suddenly the Lulz War did not seem such a sad, sad loss.

    But now you know. Now you know everything.

    ... Ooooor, this is Terin, and I just don't fucking like coffee.



    You are truly a master of disguise because it is simply not possible to not like coffee.
  • colacola the dick man himself Right behind you Icrontian
    In the navy

    coffe = life
    JBoogalooJokke
  • JokkeJokke Nuvsvaag, Norway Icrontian
    cola said:

    In the navy

    coffe = life

    We need a QFT button.

    JBoogaloo
  • ardichokeardichoke Buttes Master B Lansing, MI Icrontian
    edited Jun 2013
    I think we all need to chip in and get this badass antique industrial coffee grinder for ICHQ

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    It's only $1400 guys! Alternatively, there's one that is a table top model (this one is free standing in an iron housing) which is like $600.

    I should really stay the hell out of antique markets.

    EDIT: Also, Stumptown Coffee roasts some pretty baller beans.
  • brightbright Wind Tunnel Member
    edited Jun 2013

    I would challenge ANYONE who doesn't like coffee to attend a cupping with me at Chazzano. It will change everything.

    One day I will take you up on this challenge. For I believe Tea is superior and far less barbarous.
    Teramona
  • TeramonaTeramona Baroness von Puttenham In a cute little love nest with Mymidan. Icrontian
    bright said:

    I would challenge ANYONE who doesn't like coffee to attend a cupping with me at Chazzano. It will change everything.

    One day I will take you up on this challenge. For I believe Tea is superior and far less barbarous.
    To be fair, I'm attending the coffee thing during Expo so that I can have a more informed bias.

  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    I read the Bible three times for that same reason.
    Teramonakimono54QCH
  • JBoogalooJBoogaloo This too shall pass... Virginia...The Northern part Icrontian
    cola said:

    In the navy

    coffe = life

    There's something about coffee with bromine that just...takes me back :)
  • NemikanNemikan Icrontian
    This thread makes me quite excited to try the Chazzano coffee @ expo. Since I mostly drink coffee at work, I've found it hard to actually go out and buy different types of coffee to try even though I do love me a good cup of coffee. Maybe I'll have to get something to brew some coffee at work.
  • SonorousSonorous Shredmaster Virginia Icrontian
    edited Jun 2013
    Teramona said:



    You're right. This is actually Dan. It's time you all knew the truth...

    You see, following the summer of 2011, I became increasingly aware that loneliness was turning me in to a sad, bitter, rough husk (much like the green shell that wraps so tightly around the corn of my precious homeland - the sparkling jewel of America that is Iowa). I had to do something. People didn't interest me anymore, but I didn't want to face the world on my own. So I invented... her.

    Yes. Yes, it's true.

    I set about weaving an elaborate mythology so thorough and so complete, that not even the keenest eye among you could find fault with it. I spent hours digitally rendering a lifelike imagine of the facade that was to become "My Terin." I knew that wouldn't be enough, though. Oh, no. I had to create a holographic interface with which people could interact in real space and time. When ICNY rolled around that winter, she was ready. No one ever even suspected. Not even my own mother.

    After my deception was was complete and Terin's existence in peoples' minds was absolute... I invented the Lulz Wars. For you see, I could not handle my newfound peace. I needed to put Terin, really just a manifestation of my own self doubt and also secret vanities, in to battle. A battle where she would say things and react to things as I had heretofore only wished to. Her crushing defeat was the beginning of my realizing that Terin couldn't fight my battles for me forever. Indeed, I realized that I would have to get rid of her all together one day.

    So, I feigned a proposal. The imagined "yes" was enough to make people care again. Suddenly the Lulz War did not seem such a sad, sad loss.

    But now you know. Now you know everything.

    ... Ooooor, Terin's real, and just doesn't like coffee.

    image
  • TeramonaTeramona Baroness von Puttenham In a cute little love nest with Mymidan. Icrontian
    Someone give me five things they love about coffee... Go. Gogogogogogogo...
  • kless001kless001 Midwest-USA
    Vacuum Siphon Cof..... What sorcery is this?
  • AlexDeGruvenAlexDeGruven Not as tall as Bobby Tallbeer. Twilight Sparkle is overrated. Meechigan Icrontian
    bright said:

    I would challenge ANYONE who doesn't like coffee to attend a cupping with me at Chazzano. It will change everything.

    One day I will take you up on this challenge. For I believe Tea is superior and far less barbarous.
    But what if I like being a barbarian?
  • PirateNinjaPirateNinja Mountains Icrontian
    Does anybody put butter in their coffee? I have some friends doing the bulletproof coffee thing (butter + some supplement). I tried a little butter in it this morning. My thoughts are I could barely taste it and I got an extra 50 fat calories in at breakfast.
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    Butter in coffee? First I've heard of it.
  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach Dallas Icrontian
    edited Jun 2013

    Does anybody put butter in their coffee? I have some friends doing the bulletproof coffee thing (butter + some supplement). I tried a little butter in it this morning. My thoughts are I could barely taste it and I got an extra 50 fat calories in at breakfast.

    I'm going to go out on a limb ... a really sturdy, low limb, with no risk ... and say that anyone who makes statements like "That’s because toxins in cheap coffee (Starbucks included) will steal your mental edge and actually make you weak, but clean coffee actually fights cancer and provides antioxidants." doesn't actually know what they're talking about, but are trying to sell a product. He specifically states "power of yak butter tea" which is a green tea and quite different from coffee. I would guess that it's pointless :D

    http://www.bulletproofexec.com/how-to-make-your-coffee-bulletproof-and-your-morning-too/
  • JBoogalooJBoogaloo This too shall pass... Virginia...The Northern part Icrontian
    Teramona said:

    Someone give me five things they love about coffee... Go. Gogogogogogogo...

    My five reasons for loving coffee...

    1. I love the aroma of a freshly brewed cup of coffee. There's just something about it that says to me, "ahhhh, grab a cup of me and relax on the patio, or by the beach, or at the cafe, or where ever." Tea is just, eh...

    2. Coffee is better enjoyed in groups any time during any day in any weather. I don't feel the same towards tea.

    3. I prefer the taste of alcohol with coffee than with tea. I really enjoy a good Irish Coffee done proper or Kentucky Coffee.

    4. Coffee makes my mornings, just because. No coffee = a bad start.

    5. When I work (school, side projects, professionally) coffee keeps me calm yet continuous. Tea calms me too much and makes me want to sleep.

    I don't hate tea, I drink it often (green and chamomile mostly). But, not as often as coffee :)
    ardichokeAnnes
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