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Lincoln
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Lincoln
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Question Why do you do it?

As our team completes our transition, I think it serves as a perfect opportunity for everyone to stop a minute and think about this incredible project they are involved in.

Please, take a moment to ponder over your commitment to the Folding@Home project and Team 93, and post here why it is you believe in this project and continue to fold.

Thanks to everyone for your continued efforts!
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Slick
OMG don't touch the chair
Slick
384 Posts
When I first found team #93 I did it to become fimilar with everyone and get some more friends. Now I continue to do it because of the encredible team effort. Also to be part of this amazing team.
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Gobd
Icrontic Duke of Haxor
Gobd
144 Posts
I do it because i was always at Icrontic and one day ventured into the folding forum and found out about all the great stuff that folding can do for humanity and how it has almost no effect on PC performace. Since then all of my computers have been running F@H 24/7.

There is no reason not to do it, so i won't stop until F@H dies or a more helpful project appears.
primesuspect
The Icrontic Guy
primesuspect
28,248 Posts
I do it because it's the right thing to do.. It fits right in with my spiritual practice, and it is completely painless to do. I will always support this project, as long as it exists and has merit.
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Crypto
Harvey's please
Crypto
568 Posts
I was sucked in to folding first off as a stress testing program. Then I got to love the mounting excitement of checking my progress in the team.
Then I started to think about the real implications of what I was doing and thought " I can't possibly NOT do this" It costs a couple of quid a month for the electricity and I would gladly donate that small amount to such a deserving cause.

Finally, I'm sometimes overwhelmed by the community spirit, particularly after the passing of Bart Williams.

Team 93 is the place to be and I'm proud to be part of it.

Fold On

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CyrixInstead
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1,074 Posts
I used to run the United Devices Cancer Research Distributed Computing program. However, at Icrontic the members had cool 'folding sigs', and they had an area to discuss their choice of distibuted computing.

I thought that this was much more a family spirit community, and if I had a problem with the folding I would be able to ask someone about it.

So, I like the sigs (please lets get a sig generator back ASAP!!), and I like the community spirit.

Oh, and of course it's for a good cause (my mum has had breast cancer and my ex-girlfriend used to work at an Alzheimer's Home).
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Hotrodsun
Just another Slave to the man
Hotrodsun
314 Posts
Well, I don't know why I do it. I like the feeling of helping my fellow people. But really I guess It more for me, I'll will probably have Alzheimer when I get old. Because I can't remember sh*t now and I'm only 25.
qparadox
I'll Think of Something
qparadox
814 Posts
Well I do it for a number of reasons, I'll start with why I choose to participate in any DC project and then move onto my specific reasons for choosing folding.

WHY DC?

So often in our society we expect discoveries and technological advances to simply come from some brain child with funky hair and no social skills. The sad truth is that most advances do not come from people with funky hair. instead they come from grunt work by many many people working collaborating. In modern times the collaborators have also had to turn to numeric simulation to solve problems that aren't approachable any other way. This need, and the often high price for computing time, makes a lot of great research unachievable at the current time.

Distributing computing projects are a bridge between the "normal" people and those who are on the leading edge. It provdies a way for a large portion of society to contribute to technological innovation and research that has never been available before. We all get to participate and those running the project get much needed computing time. Hopefully, the end result will be something that benefits society.

SO WHY FOLDING?

In september 2002, I decided to make a gradual shift from UD/SETI to folding. I decided to switch (insert lame apple ripover commerical here) for a number of reasons. I was first attracted to folding by the harsh dedication and team atmosphere of the members of team '93. But there was a deeper reason for my choosing to fold. The fact that the project was run by a purely academic institution wasn a big plus. I know that my contribution will be furthering research and not simply be a cheap way out for a company. Having a very rudimentary knowledge of chemistry and biology (I'm an engineering physics student) I also realized the extremely difficult nature of protein folding simulations and why it requires such a massive amount of computing time. Without folding@home these simulations wouldn't have happened for years. So the pande group needs us. but society needs their research. There is so much we don't fully understand about protein folding, but through folding@home we can, work unit by work unit, build up knowledge and eventually gain understanding of the process. The final result of the folding@home project will be a great leap forward for understanding a very common occurance, and a great start to finding solutions to some very important ailments.

So in short: we need the results of folding@home, but folding@home needs us to flourish. A perfect synergy exists between these needs, so it simply makes sense to fold.

I hope that all made sense, I just typed it up after getting massacred on a vector calc mid-term (the prof thought we had 2 hours to write it but we only had 50 minutes ....) after cramming all nite. So if its BS please tell me . And yes my writing is overly long.
Thrax
Cad
Thrax
24,031 Posts
I do it because I have a competitive spirit. I like to try to be the best at anything I do. With folding, I can have friendly competition and have it for a good cause.

Put simply
Because I can.
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morfeu
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morfeu
109 Posts
Cuz i wanna do it n i can, cuz this team is great, ppl are great, if we can help ppl, why not do it?

Cheers.
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LawnMM
Oppressor of Crackheads
LawnMM
994 Posts
Because it may save somebody's life, and it doesn't cost me anything. Its like giving blood, no harm to you...could really help somebody else! I do that too

Its better than SETI...I'm more concerned with curing diseases people I know may develop than finding phoning ET.
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fatcat
to live is to suffer
fatcat
4,074 Posts
wife had pre-cancerous cells at 22 and had to have surgery a few years back....

.....in hopes to find cures

fc
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tycho
A buddhist... cow?!
tycho
335 Posts
donating my computer time costs me little to nothing but is a huge benefit to those involved.
i love the community here and i love the competition as well
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profdlp
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profdlp
21,407 Posts

Thumbs up One good reason, of many

I originally posted this back at the old Icrontic. I was doing the F@H project before my mom was diagnosed with cancer, mainly because it seemed like the decent thing to do. Now it's personal.

Here is what I wrote in April:

*********************************

Some of you may remember my previous mention of my mom's cancer diagnosis. She had a fast-spreading cancer, which necessitated a no-nonsense approach. Within two weeks of her diagnosis she had surgery, then began an aggressive chemotherapy treatment.

While visiting my folks I mentioned the FAH project, and showed them GenKeeb's Flashfold presentation. My parents were immediately interested, and began folding the same night.

I recently learned that while she was in for her latest chemo session (this is not fun, folks) she was browsing through the usual stack of outdated magazines and came across an article in TIME relating to the FAH project, and mentioned to the Doctors, Nurses, and other patients that "my computer is doing this right now, even as I sit here waiting for my treatment".

The interest was unbelievable - everyone in the place wanted to know more about it. Many people assumed that my mom had some sort of supercomputer stashed away in her basement (I wish!) and were surprised to hear that just about any computer could make a significant contribution to this project. I'd be willing to bet that there were a few more home computers folding that evening.

My mom is not giving up, and neither am I, but we do realize that by the time the raw research is complete and all of the data is analyzed, it may not have an immediate impact on our own lives. Maybe if this project had been around 25 years ago (when I was 19 years old) I would not have to watch my mom suffer through some pretty fierce treatment to save her life. In another 25 years I will be her age. Maybe I'll be able to spend a little more time having fun and going fishing, instead of having to undergo weekly medical procedures (weekly = timed so you have just about enough time to recover before you go in for the next one).

Maybe it won't affect our lives at all. But it's bound to make a huge difference in someone's life. Maybe, just maybe, this research will improve the lives of thousands - or millions.

Maybe YOU will be able to look back and say that you made a real difference in the world. How good would that feel?

Prof

(PS: I wanted to link to the TIME article about folding, but it requires a paid registration so I did not include it.)

*********************************

Prof

PS: Thanks to everyone involved in this project!


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NoFuture
SuperCellShader
NoFuture
87 Posts
I do it for a lot of reasons:

-To give my contribution to the world.
-To help science making our lives better.
-I love the community.
-I don't like wastin' GHZ.
-I'm a (soon to be) scientific.
-It keeps my computers busy.
csimon
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csimon
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I do it because it is a worthy cause ...and because the last time I had mad cow it took me 6 months to get over it. jk ...for starters I live in the heart of "cancer alley".
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what is this?
kroff
11 Posts
i do it for the money ;-) ..oh yes...and the stars ..i want those stars back ;-)
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pseudonym
Faster than you!
pseudonym
2,332 Posts
Peer Pressure.

I just couldn't help it, over and over again, telling me to do it, nothing made em stop...........
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danball1976
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I do it for one reason because my mom's side of the family has a history of Breast cancer. My mom and my Great Grandmother had breast cancer in the same breast. My Great Granmother died before I was born and had breast cancer for 15-20yrs before dying of it. My mom had it in 1991 and took the requisite Chemo and radiation therapy that was par for the course back then
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profdlp
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danball1976 said
I do it for one reason because my mom's side of the family has a history of Breast cancer. My mom and my Great Grandmother had breast cancer in the same breast. My Great Granmother died before I was born and had breast cancer for 15-20yrs before dying of it. My mom had it in 1991 and took the requisite Chemo and radiation therapy that was par for the course back then
I hope your mom is OK now. My mom is going through the chemo stuff right now. She didn't react well to it, so they cut the dose back. Unfortunately, this means she had to do six sessions instead of four. I think she has one to go.


Prof

PS: Yes, F@H really matters!
WuGgaRoO
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WuGgaRoO
2,351 Posts
1)competition (it must be me or sumthing)
2) i kinda know what the site is talkinga bout (im currently a biochem major and i love science)
3) Im altruistic ( yeah u heard me right)
4) the sigs (man the chicks did them)
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profdlp said
danball1976 said
I do it for one reason because my mom's side of the family has a history of Breast cancer. My mom and my Great Grandmother had breast cancer in the same breast. My Great Granmother died before I was born and had breast cancer for 15-20yrs before dying of it. My mom had it in 1991 and took the requisite Chemo and radiation therapy that was par for the course back then
I hope your mom is OK now. My mom is going through the chemo stuff right now. She didn't react well to it, so they cut the dose back. Unfortunately, this means she had to do six sessions instead of four. I think she has one to go.


Prof

PS: Yes, F@H really matters!
Yeah, she's doing pretty well, she does get tired easily though because of all that stuff, and she didn't loose her hair when she had chemo and radiation.
profdlp
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Smile Good To Hear

Glad to hear that. My mom is bald as a cueball right now. Her loyal children have been calling her Uncle Fester for the past month. My girlfriend is a doctor, and says it should grow back alright.

A sense of humor helps; if the family ever started acting too grim about it it would be hard on everybody - especially her.


Prof
croc_
No sleep
croc_
1,132 Posts
My mother died of cancer (throat / tongue / spine) 7 years ago.

I guess I want to do this in memory of her. Also to help your team, and the whole project in general, to find cures.
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Jonsey
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Not to make light of the actual reasons many fold. I will steal a line from Tino. The insensitive idjit who writes for www.grabtwistpull.com the non-official webcomic of RIT.

"Because Yes."

Why do I fold? I fold because there's no reason not to (at least with the console only client, which has not even made me drop frame one inside a shooter), I fold because it might help, I fold because of my Grandmother's (may she rest in peace) Alzheimers... I fold for the diabetics, I fold.

Also, the promo videos, the snappy sigs, and the joy of recruiting others makes it worthwhile.
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Also to help your team
No, Sir! It's your team.

Yes, we compete feverishly; but all members are equal in terms of respect.
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GnomeWizardd
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I do it because I want to help the people suffering from sickness and If my computer helps find a cure for something ONE day i might have I can say " Yea i help find the cure! "
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a2jfreak
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a2jfreak
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My main reason is because I want to do what I can to help find possible cures for crippling illnesses and diseases.

However, my motives aren't entirely altruistic as I do very much enjoy the competition and the main reason I want to keep adding more machine is because I wanna kick some butt!!! on!
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BDR
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BDR
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Why do I Fold?

I'm trying to "do my part".
I've lost too many friends and relatives to cancer.
My step-grandson has been diagnosed with Duchenne's form of Muscular Dystrophy.
My Mom has Macular Degeneration.
The list goes on..

I fold in hopes that at some point in the future they may be able to find cures for these dreaded diseases.
Maybe research on one thing may lead to a cure for something totaly unrelated.
I can only hope..
and do my part.

Why do I fold here?

After doing a little searching, I've found I like this place and it's members. It's a fun and relaxing place to be.
Buddy J
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Buddy J
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I do it for the free beer and ladies!
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topherice
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topherice
254 Posts
FormFactor and CaffieneMe threatened to beat me severely if I didn't install a client and start Folding for Team93.
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when i first found out about FAH, i do it because it's interesting.

after my Grandpa died of cancer, it strengthed my dedication for folding.
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FormFactor
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1,381 Posts
Cause I have a bunch of PCs on anyways, They might as well be doing something constructive.

Also the cause is indeed a very important one. More important to me than something like SETI at home. I just dont think thats a very realistic project.
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Because I Can!
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EyesOnly
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I first came to this site a week ago following a link about the catalyst 3.8 drivers causing trouble. As i read i noticed that several post had pictures about something called f@h. After checking around i decided that i might as well fold as well so i signed on to the forums and installed the software.

Though my slow rig won't be turning in many wu:s it will at least help and the forums seems great in general (though i've only been a member for a few hours) and this is the first computer forum i've ever entered.
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EyesOnly, welcome to the foruma nd the folding team.
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Buddy Jesus had this to say
I do it for the free beer and ladies!
You know it

topherice had this to say
FormFactor and CaffieneMe threatened to beat me severely if I didn't install a client and start Folding for Team93.
.. and so they should as well. It's called 'power-recruiting'

EyesOnly had this to say
I first came to this site a week ago following a link about the catalyst 3.8 drivers causing trouble. As i read i noticed that several post had pictures about something called f@h. After checking around i decided that i might as well fold as well so i signed on to the forums and installed the software.

Though my slow rig won't be turning in many wu:s it will at least help and the forums seems gret in general (though i've only been a member for a few hours) and this is the first computer forum i've ever entered.
Welcome in

on everyone
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a2jfreak
madasiemanym
a2jfreak
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Welcome to the fold (cheep pun intended) EyesOnly!
ginipig
Oh Noes
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529 Posts
Err, didn't realise that I should've posted my extensive reply here.

Folding @ Home is a great idea. Practical, beneficial, and all those other positive -icials.
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robby
501 Posts
It is, quite simply as Prime put it "the right thing to do". It's an amazing example of the power of unity. It's steps like this that I believe forward the evolutionary process and allow us to truly work together toward a common goal.
madmat
Gone
madmat
2,963 Posts
Cancer has been a real mo'fo' in my family, I've lost more members of my family to it than I can name along with my sister and mom being survivors.
I've also lost one of my grandmothers to alheimers so I see folding as a way to maybe stop some kid in the future going to as many funerals as I did.
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I don't know what to say in response to that, Jack, other than: Wow! and I'm glad your wife seems to be doing better!
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Jack, anyone who reads that and doesn't feel like this is all worthwhile has no heart. It made me go and re-check all my comps, just to make sure everything was running in top shape.

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Wow, that is one good testimony, Jack.

I can't believe I never posted my reasons for folding here; I'd done it before the old ICF forum hack and I guess I never got around to it again.

I originally started folding for overclockers.com in December 2001 and then came to Team 93 (under the Icrontic banner) in the summer of 2002. I first started with just 1 computer and then the addiction set in. There is a history of both cancer and Alzheimer's disease on both sides of my family, so it seemed a natural to try to help Stanford out with running the folding project by donating my unused cpu cycles. I lost my father's father when I was still a young boy in 1962, to a non-malignant growth that basically took over his liver. In 1979 I lost my mother's father to a stroke brought on by the effects of radiation and chemo and surgery for the colon cancer he was diagnosed with in 1975 or 76. In the mid 1980's, my mother's mother started showing all the classic signs of early onset Alzheimer's disease, which she was thankfully spared from suffering the full affects of when she died of a massive heart attack in 1988. The previous statement might sound cold, but next I was to see the devestation that Alzheimer's disease can do to a loved one when my father's mother started showing Alzheimer's symptoms shortly after Grandma Moulin died and watched it slowly erase her mind over the next 3 years to where she didn't even know her own children any more, much less her grandchildren. When the Lord finally took her home it was actually a blessing as we then knew that she was suffering no more. Also around this time my father was diagnosed with prostate cancer, which was successfully treated with radiation and chemo. Around 1997 or 98, my Dad's brother died of cancer and it was just terrible to see what that dreadful disease had done to him. He turned from a healthy looking older man to a skeleton in only around 3 months. I just learned a couple of weeks ago that my cousin Brad has just been diagnosed with colon cancer and is also showing some spread to the liver via cat scans or mri, but his liver functions are still showing normal. He has just started radiation and chemo and the prognosis is guarded but good for his recovery.

So you can see that I have a vested interest in seeing this project be successful also. I'm presently 47 years old, so maybe some of the research we are doing today might be of benefit even to me later on in my life, as well as for countless others. I figure that running my farm probably ups my electric bill around $100-125 month, but that is OK as long as I am working and can afford to do it.
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Those were both quite moving replies muddock and Jack. I haven't personally seen the devastation that cancer, alzerheimers, mad cow, etc can do but am encouraged by what you two and others have written. I've always tried to help others; this is quite motivating to help come with new ways to help combat these diseases through computers.

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Leonardo
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Leonardo
14,843 Posts
Muddoktor and Witenoiz, thanks for the inspiration. Although there is almost no cancer history and very little Alzheimer's on either side of my family tree, your stories provide me even more motivation to keep pumping away at Folding. For both of - I am sorry for the pain that degenerative deseases have caused your families. I'm Folding for you! Witenoiz - you must have a strong wife - physically and character.
EyesOnly
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1,479 Posts
My mothers mother got alzheimers or something like that about the time i was born. I never really got to now her or her me even though she lived till i was like 12. Now my father mother has it to and i haven't seen her for years. At least i've got no cancer in my family. Let's hope that this will one day pay off even if non of us are around then.

Though i don't feel as bright of mood as i did before reading jacks post i was going to say that a really good reason to fold is keebs movie. Only a heartless SOB can watch that and not wonna fold. Now lets get those farms up and running.
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21,407 Posts
Last Monday my dad (nearly 72 years old) began having dizzy spells and pain in his arm. Within a few minutes he passed out. My mom called 911 and the paramedics arrived in under five minutes. Thank God they were so close by.

They revived my dad, who lost consciousness again in the ambulance. Again, the rescue crew brought him back.

Once at the hospital he went down for a third time. If he hadn't been at the hospital already it would have been very iffy for him. They kept him at the hospital for a few days and installed a pacemaker on Wednesday. Amazingly, he was discharged and went home last night.

He seems to be doing alright, for now, but needless to say it has been a tough week.

I just wanted to thank each and every one of my fellow team members, and everyone involved with this important project. It means more than you may think.
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a friend of mine passed away a few weeks ago a month shy of his 31st birthday. he died froma fualty heart. so i fold.
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Prof, good to hear things working out for your Dad. I can honestly say:"Been there, Done that". Meaning, i understand what you are going through.

Keep thinking positive, as hard as it may seem, especially now your Dad is on the mend.

Best wishes mate.

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