Screen Shots Of Upcoming Quake IV Emerge

29 Dec, 2004 at 12:22am ET Article published in Tech

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1. 
   29 Dec 2004 ~ 6:43am Thrax Let's hope it's better than that wallet-raping piece of ****, Quake 3.
2. 
   29 Dec 2004 ~ 9:01am Spinner

   Thrax wrote:

   Let's hope it's better than that wallet-raping piece of ****, Quake 3.

   
3. 
   29 Dec 2004 ~ 2:50pm CyrixInstead How can a story be all new if it picks up where another left off?? Won't the characters etc be the same, or at least not all new?
   
   ~Cyrix
4. 
   29 Dec 2004 ~ 3:32pm -Ben Looks like a brown doom 3.
5. 
   29 Dec 2004 ~ 9:16pm kanezfan

   Thrax wrote:

   Let's hope it's better than that wallet-raping piece of ****, Quake 3.

   
   oh come on, quake 3 was awesome, people still play it. maybe you meant doom 3?
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   29 Dec 2004 ~ 9:20pm BlackHawk

   ^Ben wrote:

   Looks like a brown doom 3.

   Yeah. That engine doesn't really appeal to me.
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   29 Dec 2004 ~ 9:31pm Thrax

   kanezfan wrote:

   oh come on, quake 3 was awesome, people still play it. maybe you meant doom 3?

   
   No no, I did mean Quake 3. It was a lousy followup to a spectacular game; the game that practically birthed the modification scene in its own right, that being Quake 2. Quake 1 was similarly good.. However Quake 3 tried to reinvent the wheel, and completely changed a time-tested mathematical expression for handling in-game movement (Every UT/Quake1/2-derived game has linear movement, Quake 3 is logarithmic.. The only modern game to use it) which entirely ruined the experience. It had no decent mods, and its expansion was very poor... Whatever mods existed for Quake 2 were canned, abandoned or forsaken by their players for Quake 3 in hopes that it would be new and better! But it wasn't.. Mods died, players left, and I hated that game.
   
   Doom 3 suffers some of these same things, however its entirely ****ty in its very own right.. Reaching too far and grabbing too little is a metaphor that comes to mind.
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   29 Dec 2004 ~ 9:46pm primesuspect I think id really damaged their reputation with Doom 3. They should have taken a lesson from valve. If you're gonna hype a game that much, you'd better be able to deliver a game that lives up to the hype. Now, you can see that everyone is "ho-hum" about Quake 4. Doom 3 was such a huge disappointment that nobody seems to much care anymore.
   

   ^Ben wrote:

   Looks like a brown doom 3.

   
   yeah, that's the other thing. I am so tired of the "metal corridor with lots of inexplicable metal things sticking out of the walls" school of video game architecture. Could we get something that DOESN'T have endless metal corridors? omg.
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   29 Dec 2004 ~ 10:03pm csimon

   primesuspect wrote:

   I think id really damaged their reputation with Doom 3. They should have taken a lesson from valve. If you're gonna hype a game that much, you'd better be able to deliver a game that lives up to the hype. Now, you can see that everyone is "ho-hum" about Quake 4. Doom 3 was such a huge disappointment that nobody seems to much care anymore.
   
   
   
   yeah, that's the other thing. I am so tired of the "metal corridor with lots of inexplicable metal things sticking out of the walls" school of video game architecture. Could we get something that DOESN'T have endless metal corridors? omg.

   
   I read about quake 4 a few months ago when doom 3 first came out and before I knew that doom 3 wasn't what I expected. At the time the whole story was only rumormill but this is what I recall ...this is what keeps me optimistic.
   
   I remember them saying that quake 4 was "sent out" of shop to someone else to develop. It's not being developed by the doom 3 group at all and that only the doom 3 video and sound engines are used ...which is really what we have to give it to ID for ...this new fantastic engines.
   Also ...that since these things are provided that "they" will be able to focus on a much faster release than doom3 ...and that "they" will be able to focus more on the script of the game ...the gameplay if you will.
   
   So all in all ...I'm not counting out Quake 4 just yet because of what I read a few months ago. I think that because of Doom 3 ppl will be more apprehensive to buy Q4 but in the long run by all indications we should have better gameplay. I sure hope so ...especially in the multiplayer aspect.
   
   If you'd like me to find the story I can look it up ...but I know that I definietly got the link at madshrimps.
10. 
    29 Dec 2004 ~ 10:04pm Thrax Raven Studios is doing Quake 4.
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    29 Dec 2004 ~ 10:06pm fudgam The second "marine" in the second screenshot looks ALOT like the doom 3 marine.
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    29 Dec 2004 ~ 10:52pm BlackHawk The first marine in the second screen shot, doesn't even have a gun.
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    30 Dec 2004 ~ 11:58am RWB

    primesuspect wrote:

    I think id really damaged their reputation with Doom 3. They should have taken a lesson from valve. If you're gonna hype a game that much, you'd better be able to deliver a game that lives up to the hype. Now, you can see that everyone is "ho-hum" about Quake 4. Doom 3 was such a huge disappointment that nobody seems to much care anymore.
    
    
    
    yeah, that's the other thing. I am so tired of the "metal corridor with lots of inexplicable metal things sticking out of the walls" school of video game architecture. Could we get something that DOESN'T have endless metal corridors? omg.

    
    So what else would you like to see? Your input could be useful for my own game.
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    30 Dec 2004 ~ 2:43pm kanezfan

    RWB wrote:

    So what else would you like to see? Your input could be useful for my own game.

    
    HL3 or something close. The era of corridors and hallways is over, we want wide open spaces, life-like environments that feel like they're teeming with life, intelligent NPCs, a good story line, not just the same tired story. I don't know how else to explain it. I mean the first few levels of HL2, you just feel like you have to keep running, it was just awesome.
15. 
    30 Dec 2004 ~ 3:29pm FormFactor It's going to suck. Q3a rocked. It would be cool if this was a sequel to that. But nope, its a sequel to Quake 2 instead Focus on single play.
    
    No more flippin gayms please!
16. 
    30 Dec 2004 ~ 4:47pm Thrax Quake2 had one of the largest multiplayer communities ever.. It singlehandedly launched Gamespy, Telefragged and other gaming websites into popularity as prior to quake 2, there <b>were</b> no large online game communities.
    
    Quake 2 was <b>hardly</b> just a single player experience.
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    30 Dec 2004 ~ 4:57pm GnomeWizardd i think it will suck. Doom3 eh entertaining for around 3 lvls. HL2 entertaining through the whole game.
    This game is going to bomb
    
    I wish people would take note of Halo 2 and HL2 baed on earth with several stages with either beach or jails Levels and real buildings
    
    the space ship Deck fighting is played out
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    30 Dec 2004 ~ 5:04pm primesuspect What Kanez said - "Teeming with life" -- look around you, what do you see? You see stuff, you can interact with it, break it, kick it, throw it, stack it, build stuff. HL2 was a great start on a road that should definitely be explored further. HL2 was the first time I really truly felt as if I was an important part of the game, rather than watching a script go by.
19. 
    30 Dec 2004 ~ 10:06pm EMT Psh, I dunno about you guys... but I think UT singleplayer was the best
20. 
    31 Dec 2004 ~ 1:39am Private_Snoball hello there,
    
    I don't know how quake 3 plays, or how Quake 4 will play, but all I know is I love the Doom 3 engine, and it looks like this may be a game that shuts up anyone who dare speak badly about the Doom 3 Engine.
    
    J/K, the game looks nice, lets hope it isn't just pretty.
    
    Peace,
    Alex
21. 
    31 Dec 2004 ~ 11:30am -Ben I'm not that impressed with the doom 3 engine.
    
    A brute force stencil shadow algorythm which honestly perfectly straight hard shadows look crap.
    
    A "physics" engine, that's full of bugs.
    
    Normal mapping woopdefecking doo.
    
    Low poly characters because of said stencil shadowing.
    
    Low poly enviroments (see above point)
    
    Small indoor corridor shooters WOW.
    
    Now because most of you know I like half life 2, half lifes 2 engine is not the best either but at the moment it can handle higher poly and higher res enviroments and characters. A kick ass facial animation package. And a better physics engine, the only thing doom 3 has got over half life 2 is the stencil shadowing which IMO looks ugly, and if HL2 took the same direction it would be turned into a corridor fest aswell.
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    1 Jan 2005 ~ 2:58pm RWB I never really felt DOOM3 looked that great, but most posts I saw even on this site seemed to always be on the side that "DOOM3 rocks!" However, the stuff I have seen of the Unreal Engine is VERY nice.
    
    Then again... you can make anything look nice if you put hard work into it. One of the guys before I graduated played around with Shockwave a bit and made an awsome looking 3D Character in it, it sure made me think twice about mocking Shockwave 3D. If you work around the issues, you can always make something look pretty good.
    
    Normal Mapping rocks BTW
23. 
    1 Jan 2005 ~ 3:02pm GnomeWizardd yea the new unreal engine is in tribes vengence. Almost makes me think of getting that
24. 
    1 Jan 2005 ~ 5:54pm primesuspect What ever happened to the CryTek engine?
25. 
    1 Jan 2005 ~ 10:38pm -Ben Crytek has a nice engine, but it does have an attack of the "action man" look about it, and the physics seem "floaty"
    
    The ut2004 engine is in tribes vengance, if the UE3.0 was in it, your machine would be begging to be put out of it's misery.
    
    Normal mapping rocks when used to not to prop up your world.
    
    "Blatant fanboy moment" If you want to see normal mapping how it should be used to add to the world but not overpower it, check what HL2 does.
26. 
    8 Jan 2005 ~ 6:47am kamma HAHA.. funny comments on this thread..