Suprnova announces eXeem

30 Dec, 2004 at 6:13pm ET Article published in Tech

A few moments ago the people behind the BitTorrent site Suprnova.org announced their creation of a p2p based BitTorrent distribution system called [i]eXeem[/i]. The new system uses a modified version of the BitTorrent protocol. A beta version of the new file sharing program is due in the coming weeks. The interview containing this announcement can be downloaded here.

eXeem will allow users to rate and add comments to files. This system is an attempt to pre-empt the system being flooded with poor quality/fake files, something that plagues tradition p2p networks like Kazaa. He said that users would be able to tell if files were of poor quality or fakes, and consequentially be able to weed out poor torrents from the system. He announced there were no current plans for the suprnova.org website. Interestingly, the administrator failed to comment on the use of the network for pirated and illegal software, and made no comment as to how, if at all, the system would prevent users from sharing pirated software and media.

Source: Neowin

Comments

30 Dec 2004 ~ 6:15pm Thrax eXeem, by the way, is a decentralized bittorrent network - how that even qualifies as bittorrent is beyond me at this time.
30 Dec 2004 ~ 6:23pm Spinner

Thrax wrote:

eXeem, by the way, is a decentralized bittorrent network - how that even qualifies as bittorrent is beyond me at this time.

Indeed.
30 Dec 2004 ~ 6:40pm KingFish That puzzles me too. Maybe it was a missquote where they meant to say decentralized p2p network.
30 Dec 2004 ~ 9:02pm Komete And I was just taking a moment of grief for Suprnova lol
30 Dec 2004 ~ 9:59pm EMT I don't make left or right of it. Wait and see, I guess...
30 Dec 2004 ~ 11:54pm Garg One time I used Kazaa to find torrents in people's shared folders. Worked pretty well. This seems like a similar idea.
30 Dec 2004 ~ 11:57pm Thrax I have a feeling that it's going to be something along those lines..

Instead of sharing torrents to trackers, people make torrents and dump them onto their harddrive as searchable targets.. Then people load up the torrents, and the mesh is created by people connecting to other people who have the torrent on their computer and the files to back it up.

It's possible that they're implementing anonymization or encryption; it only makes sence.
31 Dec 2004 ~ 1:18am Cyclonite I'm not sure what to make of it. Either way, I'm somewhat excited. This may be a very cool thing.
31 Dec 2004 ~ 1:25am entropy Suprnova + BitTorrent forevar!

I don't really care how they work it. I really do hope, though, that it's encrypted/anonymous somehow. I really hate RIAA Radar'ing everything...
31 Dec 2004 ~ 1:29am EMT That does make sense then for suprnova to do, as they had to do quite a bit of work keeping mirrors up. I suppose it will seem mighty complicated to the average user, although if it's all in one client that would work. The concept is pretty weird when we're used to the discrete words of swarming vs. "regular" p2p...

I dunno about anonymization or encryption; I don't see any point to that. But a rating system, that's plausible.
31 Dec 2004 ~ 1:32am entropy

EMT wrote:

I dunno about anonymization or encryption; I don't see any point to that. But a rating system, that's plausible.

No RIAA/MPAA/what-have-you snoops. We all know BitTorrent is *largely* for illegal downloads... there's no hiding it. It's also one of the more dangerous options. Quicker, more effective, but wide-open. You can grab the IP of seeders/downloaders pretty easy, so some form of protection would be welcome.
31 Dec 2004 ~ 1:37am Thrax If it's anonymous and encrypted, no one's going to break down your doors, or anyone elses doors, or slap you with a lawsuit if you dabble in that kind of stuff.. And if they do break down your doors, well then you can countersue for hacking as it were because breaking into encrypted data streams is illegal thanks to the DMCA and other US laws.
31 Dec 2004 ~ 6:31am BlackHawk IMHO the interface sucks.
31 Dec 2004 ~ 11:00am kanezfan Pandora's box was opened a long time ago. *AA will never be able to stop it.
31 Dec 2004 ~ 2:55pm EMT Think about it, guys. If you can't "grab the IP of a seeder easily", how are you going to get the download? If you're just referring to the interface displaying IPs, they still have to be there for you to communicate with anyone. Worst comes to worst, they could packet sniff who the program was communicating with. Or, easier, write their own client to bust people.

Encryption is pretty pointless as well. The RIAA/MPAA hasn't gotten anyone by intercepting their illegal downloads between sender and receiver. Generally it would just waste your processor time.

And, of course, these would have to be modifications to BitTorrent rather than a method for this weird torrent distribution system, since the data's what matters (presumably).

There are a few considerations that *might* actually make a service anonymized. But the implications of an anonymous download system, if it was effective, could be pretty scary for the non-piracy world.
2 Jan 2005 ~ 2:34am Mizugori okay just my two cents

i remember back when direct connect started, god that was a fun summer...i barely slept...then it got slow, bogged down, and overrun by crap and idiots. so i moved on to the nice new bit torrent. it rocked at first, but then it got slowed down, suprnova.org was down all the time from so many users, whole thing has basically fallen apart let's face it also some of the laws have changed, patriot act among other things have changed the whole game and now people's asses are actually getting nailed. instead of just once a month hearing about the guy who got caught by Universal for ripping the Hulk movie from a private screener copy, now we are hearing about bob your neighbor whose ass got nailed to the wall after the RIAA pressured his ISP for a few precious details to screw him over.

the bottom line is, we- i mean uh, those damned thieving pirates need a new system...a new program and some serious security improvements.

as far as the RIAA...something needs to be done. this bull**** has gone on too far, its all just beauracratic nonsense at this point. if the bands were honestly hurting it would be one thing...but let's be honest people they're not...and let's not forget, they get paid to play ****ing music. its kind of like when a sports star complains about wanting a million dollar raise...ans besides many of the bands have outright said that they don't support what the RIAA is doing, and that the RIAA is the one losing the majority of the money, not the bands.
10 Jan 2005 ~ 11:39am S Exeem has got to be the worst idea in p2p yet. And they have the nerve of calling it a bittorrent client. What the hell was wrong with keeping the torrents on a web server?
10 Jan 2005 ~ 12:17pm kanezfan

S (Guest) wrote:

Exeem has got to be the worst idea in p2p yet. And they have the nerve of calling it a bittorrent client. What the hell was wrong with keeping the torrents on a web server?

Well the fact that they can shut you down for one. I mean granted that's not sure yet, but it's going to cost way too much to find out, so most of the sites give up and close down. I think it's a great idea.