Beyond Good and Evil 2

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1. 
   15 May 2008 ~ 10:55pm primesuspect YUS! We were just talking about how great this game is the other day. $9 on Steam will get you the original, which is an excellent game.
2. 
   16 May 2008 ~ 12:42pm UPSLynx I'm not going to be sad sally here but.... ok, I am.
   
   I'm not getting my hopes up yet. In fact,I take this with a very small grain of salt.
   
   LET ME EXPLAIN.
   
   I've been a rabid BGE fan for years. Since 2004 actually. I LIVED on the official BGE forums for the greater part of 3 years waiting for any and all news of the sequel (game was originally penned as a trilogy). That was a great community, but I eventually left because it died. Lack of news/progress took it's toll on all of us. One by one we slowly left until it was pretty much devoid of any cognative activity. Not counting the IC forums, I've yet to see a stronger community online than that of the official BGE forums when it was in it's prime.
   
   I've heard rumors. I've heard them all. I've gotten my hopes up time after time upon catching wind of a sequel in the works. But it never actually turns out that way. JeuxVideo has reported before that BGE2 was on the way. 2005 actually. They said that after Ancel finished the official King Kong game (the FPS one) that his next project was BGE2 (confirmed by Ancel). Of course, this wasn't true. Rayman Raving Rabbids 1 and 2 came and went. No word of BGE2.
   
   Ubisoft continued to deny any and all information regarding it. And they were telling the truth. We had insiders in those forums, people who had close contacts and connections at Ubi. Nothing was happening.
   
   I watched Ubisoft ignore thousands of fans, petitions, projects, donations, everything. They took a fantastic game and single handedly wasted any chance of giving us what we really deserved. They've bastardized any attempts to keep hope alive.
   
   See, Ubi killed the game themselves. When BGE was released, during the SAME WEEK Ubi also released Prince of Persia. They had direct competition with one of their own products. Ubi gave all the marketing money and attention to PoP, and gave nothing to BGE. As a result, no one bought the game. Despite absolute rave reviews, endless plugs from many publications, and a cult following that had a rabid obsession with the game, Ubi continued to ignore it. BGE was reduced to a $20 price tag within just a month or two after release. That's how poorly it sold. I picked it up at this price because I read that it was good, and it was lacking sales. Couldn't pass up on that price. I bought it on PS2 and fell in love with it. I beat it and went out and bought a copy of the game on PC. Replayed it there. Couldn't get enough.
   
   It's a real shame. It's a brilliant game with incredible storytelling. Oh yeah, and it's original. Hard enough to find that aspect in anything these days. And the music, oh the music, it was beautiful.
   
   I've learned in my years of being beat down and kicked that I shouldn't get my hopes up. And until Ubi green-lights the project, you probably shouldn't either. Ubi is the fortress here. They own the rights, they make the call. Until they say BGE2 is good to go, it really doesn't matter how much work Ancel has gotten done. He is very passionate about the game. But that mean nothing if Ubi doesn't agree.
   
   I've always believed that we'd see BGE2 eventually. Though those thoughts are years old. It gets harder to keep those thoughts in light. The masses have cried out for a sequel and what has Ubi done? Given us 4 Prince of persia games in about 5 years. They know where the easy money is. They're not interested in the risk it seems. But if BGE2 does in fact become a reality, I will probably end up buying a next-gen console just to play it.
   
   I'm that into it.
   
   If I haven't stressed it enough, do not miss out on this game. I may even put together a review for the game to gain interest.
   
   /rant
3. 
   16 May 2008 ~ 12:58pm primesuspect I think IC needs to publish a new, shiny review of the game now that it's a $9 download on Steam.
   
   It's too good a game to let it falter. Perhaps Ubi is using Steam to see if there's commercial interest in the product.
4. 
   16 May 2008 ~ 5:48pm UPSLynx I'll get right one it. (and by right on it, I mean probably not until Sunday. You know, wedding and all)
5. 
   16 May 2008 ~ 6:24pm mas0n Just bought it, downloading now. It's HL2 weekend for me, but I think I might try to find some time for it.
6. 
   17 May 2008 ~ 4:12am UPSLynx

   mas0n wrote:

   Just bought it, downloading now. It's HL2 weekend for me, but I think I might try to find some time for it.

   
   YESSSSSSSSSSSS
7. 
   17 May 2008 ~ 1:16pm UPSWeezer Should I go with the PC or PS2 version.
8. 
   20 May 2008 ~ 10:28pm Winfrey I just beat it on my pc about 20 minutes ago (the first one). It was pretty good. Good storytelling, good puzzles and decent play 'till finish time (I found about everything in the game and beat it in 7-8 hours). I am not disappointed in my $9.
   
   It was a refreshing game to play in between my RTS's and FPS's much like Psychonauts was when I played it. Recommended play for pretty much everybody. The ending made me very disappointed that the sequel isn't out yet
9. 
   21 May 2008 ~ 12:16pm UPSLynx precisely. The game was never intended to stand-alone. A sequel is so required.
   
   I really hope Ubi shapes up.
10. 
    29 May 2008 ~ 1:57pm primesuspect Hey Lynxie
    
    
11. 
    31 May 2008 ~ 8:23pm UPSLynx Yus... I've been made aware... and I am happy.
    
    And I'll say it right here, right now.
    
    If they don't confirm this game to be a PC release... I will buy a PS3 for it.
    
    I will buy a PS3 to play Beyond Good and Evil 2.
    
    BTW, I'm currently working on a review for BGE. It's absolutely necessary at this point in time.
12. 
    7 Feb 2012 ~ 1:07pm primesuspect So how's that going?
13. 
    7 Feb 2012 ~ 1:51pm UPSLynx LOL. About as good as BGE2's development is :P
14. 
    3 Mar 2016 ~ 7:18pm primesuspect

    The rumors never stop coming. Now it's Nintendo and maybe an NX exclusive...
15. 
    3 Mar 2016 ~ 7:20pm primesuspect

    NX would be a pre-order launch day stand-in-line kind of purchase for me if it launched with BG&E 2
16. 
    3 Mar 2016 ~ 9:31pm UPSLynx

    The realest real talk. I wan to believe. I want it so bad. So many other games get stuck in limbo and my hype eventually falters, but not BG&E. I need this game to be a reality, I don't care what platform it ends up on.
17. 
    3 Mar 2016 ~ 9:40pm primesuspect

    If BG&E launched at NintendoHQ a day early, I'm flying out and sleeping on your couch
18. 
    4 Mar 2016 ~ 9:18pm UPSLynx

    Deal. We can walk there from my place.
19. 
    5 Oct 2016 ~ 8:58pm BlackHawk
20. 
    6 Oct 2016 ~ 7:53pm primesuspect

    I don't want to believe. Nope.

    https://www.facebook.com/beyondgoodandevil/photos/a.168617863187768.35250.131546723561549/1068744866508392/?type=3&theater
21. 
    6 Oct 2016 ~ 9:34pm Ilriyas

    The ultimate tragedy is that even if this game is released it can't live up to more than a decade worth of hype
22. 
    7 Oct 2016 ~ 6:05am UPSLynx

    Here's the thing. There isn't a decade's worth of hype. This isn't like Half-Life 3, because most gamers didn't play BGE or just didn't care. The only people that are losing their shit about this game are people who fell in love with the game when it came out back in 2003. BGE hasn't topped "best of all time" lists like Half-Life has, and most people don't understand why they should care because the game was a commercial failure and doomed to cult classic status.

    The reason Beyond Good and Evil 2 hasn't been made in the last 16 years is because it's not a hype-driven game. It's not going to make Ubisoft money in a way Far Cry or Assassins Creed will do. Real talk.

    Beyond Good and Evil 2 will be a passion project for Ancel, and it'll make long time fans happy, and then it'll be forgotten and that'll be the end of it. There is no real expectation around a game like this. Ubisoft knows what they're getting themselves into, and I can guarantee you they're not expecting this to be a hit. And I'm pretty sure the die hard fans have similar expectations. We just want the story to be completed. That's it. We miss Jade and Pey'j and Double H. We don't need much, we just need something.

    I think it would take a serious amount of effort to make Beyond Good and Evil 2 a let down. It just needs to happen for us happy few. That's it, really.
23. 
    7 Oct 2016 ~ 6:06am UPSLynx

    All that being said, I'll believe this when I'm playing the damn thing. I'm disappointed they didn't make a bigger deal out of "officially" announcing this. Same old same old. Wake me up when the game has a new trailer.
24. 
    7 Oct 2016 ~ 1:42pm primesuspect

    It's all just propaganda
25. 
    7 Oct 2016 ~ 2:50pm Winfrey

    
26. 
    7 Oct 2016 ~ 2:57pm ardichoke

    Okay. Okay. Installing BG&E when I get home tonight and really going to play it this time. I've been meaning to for so long, and it's just been sitting there in my GOG library waiting.
27. 
    7 Oct 2016 ~ 3:48pm primesuspect

    It's so good
28. 
    8 Oct 2016 ~ 9:01pm UPSLynx

    I'm seriously impressed with how well it's aged, too. The controls are super tight, the stylized visuals are still SUPER beautiful. The soundtrack is GOAT.

    Some of the story element and drama, as well as the real-time action sequences that feel like a playable movie, have been done so much these days that those parts feel less impactful. Outside of that, though, this game is still top tier.
29. 
    12 Jun 2017 ~ 9:09pm aspieRommel

    CON-FUCKING-FIRMED!!!
30. 
    12 Jun 2017 ~ 9:27pm BuddyJ

    
31. 
    12 Jun 2017 ~ 9:39pm UPSLynx

    Crying. I'm so happy.
32. 
    12 Jun 2017 ~ 10:03pm UPSLynx

    Now this is interesting. Ubisoft also uploaded this scene by scene breakdown with Michel Ancel. I haven't watched it yet, but I bet there's going to be a LOT to dissect here:

    
33. 
    12 Jun 2017 ~ 10:35pm UPSLynx

    This sounds super interesting. Sounds like this game is going to go really deep into the animal-human type people in the game's world and the politics and injustices that go with it. Instead of just having animal/human characters in the world alongside regular humans with no explanation, sounds like they're not being explained as created "hybrids", and that the game explores that more.

    In that video, Ancel says "Hybrids have been created to do dangerous tasks that no human would want to do", and keeps talking about slavery, having masters, etc.

    There's also a lot of exploration around concepts of religion to the characters, especially the hybrids. These are pretty mature topics, I'm excited to see what they do with that stuff in the story.

    Ancel confirms some partial destructible environments in the game. Also space exploration and multiple planets. As well as multiple space ships you can have with a crew inside. Holy cow.

    The two presenters are referring to the woman that helps the monkey escape as "Shauni", unless I'm mis-hearing them. If you've played the first game, you know the significance of that.

    There are mentions of online multiplayer. That's the only thing that causes me to hesitate so far about this game. Online is kind of the last thing I want out of a Beyond Good and Evil game, but ultimately it depends on how it's implemented. Co-op might be cool.

    They won't confirm if the person at the end is Jade, but they talk a lot about the color of her eyes and that significance.

    Goddam. So hype.
34. 
    12 Jun 2017 ~ 10:43pm UPSLynx

    Whoa. I missed this part because I was freaking out over that trailer reveal, but apparently BGE2 is going to be a prequel? hrm.

    “Welcome to System 3,” said Gabrielle Shrager, narrative director at Ubisoft Montpellier, where the game is being made. “Our story takes place before the birth of Jade in a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural human society in a distant solar system. It is a time when corporations create hybrids in their labs and enslave them to colonize the stars in order to compete for power and cosmic resources."
35. 
    13 Jun 2017 ~ 2:51am primesuspect

    I don't even have any words left to say here. Bobby knows how much this means to me. My son called me, like on the phone (which he never, ever, ever does) to ask me if I had seen the trailer. They know. They know.
36. 
    13 Jun 2017 ~ 8:07am CB

    Guess I should play the first one eventually...
37. 
    13 Jun 2017 ~ 2:03pm primesuspect

    The world-building in this game universe is fantastic.
38. 
    15 Jun 2017 ~ 11:48pm CrazyJoe

    @CB said:
    Guess I should play the first one eventually...

    I concur.
39. 
    6 Jul 2017 ~ 5:36am UPSLynx

    Missed this because it dropped in the middle of expo. Here's the full 15 minute behind closed doors presentation Ubisoft showed at E3. It's a game engine demonstration running in real time. This engine is pretty incredible, and the scalability is mind blowing. It's a good starting point. I'm anxious to see the movement and combat mechanics implemented in this.

    
40. 
    6 Jul 2017 ~ 5:42am primesuspect

    Whoa! The Google Earth-like view of the statue/city/planet/galaxy hrnnnnggg
41. 
    7 Jun 2019 ~ 9:57pm UPSLynx

    No BGE2 at E3 this year, unfortunately. But there were some updates given out to the community via their Space Monkey Program:

    https://techraptor.net/content/beyond-good-and-evil-2-livestream-shares-new-world-details

    There are now five studios working on the game, with another to join soon. Sounds like they are REALLY pushing to get this game done at scope in a timeline that won't take another half decade.

    I haven't watched the stream, but here's an interesting tidbit from that article regarding the story:

    First of all, everyone in the world of Beyond Good and Evil 2 is cloned, though we see mostly concept art of the monkeys being cloned. Everyone is a “designer baby,” there are no births or parents, the genetic engineering process takes place in labs with tubes, from a skeleton to a molecular level. The hybrid monkeys were given special attention as one of the races that will be slaves to corporations, which, obviously, they’re not happy about. The developers frequently mentioned the Diwalite mineral, which will likely play a central role in the game. One of the concept art slides showed a technician monkey going into a kind of cybernetic dungeon oracle in order to become a space pirate.

    Making me wonder how this cloning stuff plays out for Shanui and how she has her connection to the domz.