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A green enthusiast PC build: Part one

A green enthusiast PC build: Part one

At Icrontic, do-it-yourself desktop enthusiasts are our kind of people. We build systems with almost insane specs, utilizing powerful quad core processors, huge graphics cards (sometimes two, maybe three)—all overvolted and overclocked to obtain any available extra bit of performance. This is our passion; it is who we are. This passion, however, comes at a price. As components continue to gain exponential performance increases, in turn we require ever larger power supplies.

For those of us that have been in the game a number of years, we remember a time when a quality 300-watt power supply seemed like the most we would ever need. Today, my primary system runs an 850-watt power supply, draws well over 300 watts under load, and this is all before I’ve even dropped in a second enthusiast-level graphics card. Despite major advancements in chip efficiency, PC enthusiasts still demand more power. Reasonable estimates have the enthusiast desktops drawing at least twice as much electricity as they did just a few short years ago. Can this trend be reversed? Can today’s PC enthusiast make a few compromises to build a PC that is reasonably powerful while saving energy with a few smart component selections?

The core components

The core components

April 22nd is Earth Day. Its as good a day as any to start a Green PC project. The objective is simple: build an enthusiast-grade desktop machine that cuts the power under load to at least half versus a typical high-end system. Today is part one in a three-part series; here I’ll explore the component selection. In part two, I will document the build process for viewers that may be new to PC building, and part three will be testing performance per watt: Green Machine versus its big brother—an overclocked AMD 790fx with a Phenom II 965 BE, 8 gigs of Corsair Ballistix RAM, and an AMD Radeon 5870 graphics card.

I know I’m going to be making some compromises in performance for the sake of being more energy-conscious, but I don’t want a machine that runs at a snail’s pace. I need something that can multitask effectively, play games at reasonable framerates, and encode audio and video quickly. Let’s get started.

Any good system starts with the motherboard and processor selection. In this case, I’ve settled on working with the AMD Phenom II X4 905e. It’s a quad core processor with the unique distinction of running at a 65-watt TDP (thermal design power, a measure of how warm a chip runs). This is as good as it gets for quads in terms of energy consumption: most enthusiast quads come in between 125 and 140 watts. This will be a significant energy-saving part in the design of this system. The four processing cores should still provide adequate multitasking clout for all but the most power-hungry users.

I will mate this energy-saving CPU to the ECS Black Series A785GM-M motherboard. I’ve chosen a micro-ATX form factor because it’s a Green PC, after all. Why use more printed circuit board and case material than necessary for the build? The 785G chipset from AMD is highly scalable, with integrated graphics that are robust enough to handle HD video without breaking a sweat; you’ll only want to add a discrete card if you are a gamer.

It just so happens that a few of us happen to like 3D games, though, so the next part in the build is the XFX Radeon HD 5750.  Once again, this part is selected because it’s a component that is reasonably powerful, but does the job while using less than half the power of the current top-of-the-line cards. It’s the sweet spot between being energy-efficient and being just powerful enough that it should be able to handle gaming with some reasonable compromises for the sake of mother nature and our power bill.

There are a few vendors making more power-conscious RAM that can still run at the JEDEC specs while requiring lower voltages. Geil makes a Green Series 2GB kit that run at 1.3 volts, a solid 15% improvement over most DDR3 kits. Versus an older DDR2 kit that’s overclocked past 2.0 volts, it’s a vast improvement. It’s so cool, they forego the heatspreaders entirely.

Storage: what to do, what to do? Solid state drives are an attractive energy saving option, but it’s not in the budget, at least not for a drive large enough to eliminate my requirement for a system hard drive altogether. For this build, I’m going to use a Western Digital Caviar Green. It will be interesting to see how it fares against the Caviar Black drive in the main rig. In terms of power savings, we should be looking at about four watts saved under load. Every little bit counts.

Last, but certainly not least, case and power supply selection is critical. Pack these parts in the wrong case and heat buildup can rob the core components of their maximum performance and efficiency. Choose the wrong power supply and we lose savings due to poor efficiency. For the case, we want to stay micro ATX for the form factor, so I chose the beautiful Antec Mini P180. Its bigger brother is holding the main rig, so I can attest that this case is as solidly constructed as anything on the market. Layered baffles with great sound attenuation while providing great air flow, the P series from Antec gets it done. It’s important to invest in a good case; spend a little more up front and you can be building in it for years. System after system, a good case can be a great long term investment; once again, thinking green—do it right first so you don’t have to scrap a case that you hate a year from now.

As for power supply selection, I have some rules about how I go about selecting a quality unit that is sized properly. First, always consider power supplies that are independently verified by the 80 Plus organization for efficiency. If it does not say 80 Plus, generally I would hesitate to recommend it. Secondly, we should do some math and figure out what the system will draw under maximum load, and at least double it to figure what our minimum power supply requirement in a quality 80 Plus-rated unit should be. In this case, I selected the Antec EarthWatts Green 380W unit. Yes, that’s right: a 380-watt unit will actually be overkill for this build. 80 Plus Bronze certification should guarantee us solid efficiency and good, clean, stable power with minimal waste.

This concludes part one, component selection. Please join me next week for part two, documenting the build, then part three to see how the green compromises stack up against a power-hungry monster in a real David vs. Goliath-style matchup.

Comments

  1. Tushon
    Tushon I'm interested to see where this goes, Cliff. I wish I had seen it prior to building my server. That thing only has an Athlon II (think 800MHz dual-core.............) but I didnt really consider the "green" value of the components.
  2. mirage
    mirage I'm hooked and can't wait for next week :thumbup
  3. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster Next week I am going to do some video, and its going to be a real "my first PC" builders guide. Its something I have always meant to do so its a bit of a self indulgent project. I have the lighting and mini tripod set on my workbench, and my hope is that it will be a nice little reference guide that we will be able to forward to a guy who is going to do something dreadful like buying a cheap OEM system.... In my wildest dreams, it will be something that will bring new blood to the hobby.

    The week after that will be the real meat and potatoes. Getting this to run against my primary gaming system, and seeing how they compare watt for watt.

    Without a doubt I'm going to do audio rips, some drop in encoding in AVIVO, Cinebench and a few gaming benchmarks, testing the load power draw on each to get a performance per watt analysis. Also, for gaming, I plan to put it into perspective in terms of an experience index. What compromises do I have to make to get the same playable frame-rate?

    I'm open to benchmarking suggestions if there is anything you guys would like to see.
  4. Pete I just started researching a quad core low power consumption PC last night. I've been building low power, ultra-quiet systems for years now. I'll be really curious what your idle power draw is from the wall.

    Here's a measurement I'd like you to make: Measure the wall draw with the graphics card in, then pull the card and measure it. (I'm building a server next and won't have any kind of graphics card in it)
  5. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster
    Pete wrote:
    I just started researching a quad core low power consumption PC last night. I've been building low power, ultra-quiet systems for years now. I'll be really curious what your idle power draw is from the wall.

    Here's a measurement I'd like you to make: Measure the wall draw with the graphics card in, then pull the card and measure it. (I'm building a server next and won't have any kind of graphics card in it)

    Will do. If I were to do a home theater build, or perhaps a general productivity system, that would be the way to go.
  6. GHoosdum
    GHoosdum Awesome idea. I can't wait to see the results.
  7. Petra
    Petra Interesting timing... I'm about to try a low-power build that the guys in the XS WCG section turned me on to:

    (2) 2GHz SL8WT dual-core Xeon CPUs (Sossaman, 31W TDP)
    Intel Baker Bay server board (SE7520BB2)
    4GB registered DDR2 (1Rx4)
    (1) Lian-Li Xeon backplate
    (2) OEM Sossaman heatsinks

    The above parts end up costing about $143 before shipping (if you know where to look), a complete system shouldn't pull more than about 80-100W at full load, and the mobo has onboard video as well as an 8x PCI-e slot that you can mod to accommodate a 16x PCI-e video card. Add a spare HDD, optical drive, efficient PSU, and you're set.

    Once the parts arrive and I get the systems together, I'll probably mod one of the motherboards and borrow the HD4850 from my media PC to see how it handles gaming and benchmarking. I'm curious to see how it'll stack up against my gaming system (overclocked E8400 on P45 with dual HD4850's).

    Sounds like the start of a very interesting series, Cliff.
  8. Pete The Xeon system sounds interesting. Especially with 31W CPUs.

    Does anyone have any stats on the power characteristics of the chips on the motherboard itself? I'm leaning towards getting something with no onboard video just for that reason.

    Also, recommendations for a Phenom II x4 standard ATX motherboard? I want to keep my current case.

    Really looking forward to seeing your results, both of you.
  9. wpeltola
    wpeltola Hey buddy!
    Are you building a super computer, or an HTPC here!? :) Just kidding man, that is going to be a very impressive box and you will easily have the best HTPC in your town. We still have the same great taste when it comes to hardware. I'm hoping that I an finally get my new Gigabyte GA-880GM-USB3, OCZ AM3-DDR3 kit and Phenom II 720 x3 installed. Your build rocks bud!!
  10. carl henry hey it would be awesome if you'll also post how much this rig cost. want to build an eco-friendly rig. this one inspired me thanks! i'll prolly clone this one when it's finished.
  11. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster
    carl henry wrote:
    hey it would be awesome if you'll also post how much this rig cost. want to build an eco-friendly rig. this one inspired me thanks! i'll prolly clone this one when it's finished.

    Thanks guys, I'm going to be editing the video this weekend, and when I get it all done I'll get a full parts list up with it with direct Icrontic Affiliate links to the newegg store.

    OS disk and all, this build is right around the $800 range.
  12. Elliott I built a very similar machine with a XFX ATI 4670 using the same board and hard drive. I love ECS all the features of ASUS at a lower price put in a Blu-Ray Lite-on Player 3gbs of low watt ram. I love my box plays Crysis reasonably well and didn't cost much saves tons of $$$ in electric use, the ECS board has great cooling fins all over it paired it with a Phenom II X2 Callisto 3.0ghz very satisfied.
  13. Ron Will MS SGL Server 2005 Express run on the Phenom 9650 and take advantage of the quad core features? It is not listed on MS compatible processor sheet.
  14. Jingalls
    Jingalls Whatever happened to the part two, and the video?
  15. Thrax
    Thrax These things take time! :D Coming soon.
  16. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster Let me just say, you know, sometimes you start doing something and you keep going back to it and your never really 100% pleased with it? That was my experience shooting and attempting to edit a basic tutorial for beginner PC builders. I tried, I meant well, but the video is a little on the shoddy side. I'm still getting it all up piece by piece, but the first seven parts are on youtube.

    I'm temporarily posting the videos here. Any feedback is welcome.
  17. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.535879

    This morning newegg has a combo deal using the same case and power supply I selected for this build. Its a fantastic deal if you get there on time.

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