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No Half-Life 2 Episode 3 in 2010

No Half-Life 2 Episode 3 in 2010

News outlet Planet Half-Life has gotten their hands on the latest issue of Game Informer, and according to the magazine, there will be no Half-Life installments released in 2010. This means that, in its current form, the long awaited Half-Life 2: Episode 3 will not be delivered over the course of this year. Sources suggest that Episode 3’s release plans are unclear at the moment, and there is speculation that rather than it being the third and final episodic piece to 2004’s Half-Life 2, Episode 3 may be pushed to a full-blown sequel.

It has been almost three years since the release of Half-Life 2: Episode 2 within The Orange Box, and nearly four years since the release of Episode 1. Many fans have called into question the ‘episodic nature’ of the Half-Life 2 episodes as they have failed to be delivered on a timely basis. While fans have eagerly awaited the release of Episode 3, they’ve watched Valve take on projects like Left 4 Dead and its sequel, while enduring continual delays for the third and final chapter to Half-Life 2.

The prospect of turning Episode 3 into an actual sequel is very interesting. Given the amount of development time that Valve has had with Episode 3, it is entirely possible that the project became too big to be considered episodic. Also considering that the Source Engine is now six years old and counting, Valve could be working toward some sort of engine switch. Despite their efforts to keep Source modernized, after such a long time the engine can’t help but show its age.

Valve certainly has very high expectations following the spectacular Orange Box, and especially the outstanding Episode 2. Standalone sequel or not, Valve will take their time to ensure the Half-Life saga is wrapped up in the best possible product they can produce. In the mean time, continue to be patient, as we probably won’t see the anticipated finale anytime soon.

Comments

  1. Winfrey
    Winfrey *sigh* Episode 2 and the Orange Box were so good to me. I want Episode 3 so bad!

    I really hope Valve wraps up the source engine with episode 3 and then takes a leap forward like they did with Half-Life 2. Just like Tom Petty says, "The waiting is the hardest part"
  2. Linc
    Linc Valve saying one thing then doing the opposite. Wow, shocking.
  3. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster Could someone please inform Valve that they would not like me when I'm ANGRY!!! RAGE!!!!!

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  4. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx it is SO frustrating :(

    I don't think they're going to use a new engine for Episode 3, and I don't think it's going to be a true stand-alone sequel. Everything they've said and (mostly) done so far suggests otherwise.

    There also isn't any major conclusive evidence pointing to a Half-Life 3, no matter how badly we know we want/need it. Chances are, Valve will do it anyways, but a new engine will be daunting. It'll put development YEARS away.
  5. Idiot_Slayer
    Idiot_Slayer Really I saw this coming, at the moment I am more excited because the Black Mesa project is closer to release.
    It's no Ep 3 but it'll do for now.
  6. Thrax
    Thrax Did someone say ZOMBIE GOAST?

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  7. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx GORDON FREEMAN IS NOW THESE HANDS.
  8. Thrax
    Thrax YOU WILL BE ONE OF US! :<
  9. Half-Life is my Lover I hope they make this next one really good. I don't mind waiting. If its better and LONGER than all the other chapters than i will be happy =)
  10. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx Wha...! but.. but... Half-Life is MY lover!
  11. Thrax
    Thrax ITT: Bobby dabbles in a ménage à trois.
  12. Niraj Good Lord ! seems like they will release after 2012 ( doomsday )....
  13. RichD
    RichD Half life is clearly a two timing slut!
  14. mirage
    mirage As much as I want the EP3, I also understand the developers. It should be really boring to keep stretching the same story after a while. Also, they have other extremely successful products bringing in even more cash with much less cost, like TF2, L4D, L4D2. While the latter group of games is more profitable, priority of EP3 will be lower.
  15. MAGIC
    MAGIC
    mirage wrote:
    As much as I want the EP3, I also understand the developers. It should be really boring to keep stretching the same story after a while. Also, they have other extremely successful products bringing in even more cash with much less cost, like TF2, L4D, L4D2. While the latter group of games is more profitable, priority of EP3 will be lower.

    HL2 has sold upwards of 7 millions copies. I'd say thats pretty successful, and deserving of attention.
  16. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster
    MAGIC wrote:
    HL2 has sold upwards of 7 millions copies. I'd say thats pretty successful, and deserving of attention.

    Yeah, its only the greatest game ever made, and the very foundation for why Valve even exists.

    I'm kinda old around here so not everyone will relate, but when I was six years old I saw The Empire Strikes back with my little brother and Dad. There was this little surprise at the end, then we all debated for the next three excruciating years weather or not it was all true? Did he lie, is it a set up, if its the truth, how the hell did he get all the robot parts, why turn to evil? All those questions, and three years was a long ass time to make a little kid wait for some answers. When ROTJ finally arrived, my Dad could not immediately get us to the theater, friends of ours saw it first, after it had been out for a few weeks my brother and I ganged up on him, threw a tantrum and got the closure we desperately needed!

    Valve, I'm too old for this shit. I need my sequel, I need closure, I need to know how the story ends. Don't make me throw a temper tantrum!
  17. Thrax
    Thrax What was it like when movies were in black and white? Tell us a story, uncle Cliff!
  18. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster
    Thrax wrote:
    What was it like when movies were in black and white? Tell us a story, uncle Cliff!

    ;D

    Sequels took forever to make, and VHS casettes were released about two and a half years after the initial theatrical release, and they cost $59 a pop. I do rember that much.
  19. GHoosdum
    GHoosdum I remember that Blockbuster used to charge a $119 late fee if you didn't return your VHS on time.
  20. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx And if you didn't rewind before returning, YOU WERE CHARGED A FEE!
  21. Thrax
    Thrax Please be kind... Rewind.
  22. shwaip
    shwaip
    Thrax wrote:
    Please be kind... Rewind.

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  23. Koreish
    Koreish I remember you could rent gaming systems back in the N64 era. Good times.
  24. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster
    GHoosdum wrote:
    I remember that Blockbuster used to charge a $119 late fee if you didn't return your VHS on time.

    I had a friend in the movie rental buisness years ago (he used to tell the ladies he was in "film distribution"). Anyhow, the way they used to do buisness the studios would require for the rental outlets to pay a exhorbinate first run VHS fee to get the rights to rent the film before they had a broad release for the consumer to purchase outright. This buisness model lasted for many years. Studios would release rental copies in the video stores for an exclusive period. At least a few months before you could buy copies that were widely available for ownership. If I remeber correctly he said it would range from about $100 to $150 per VHS copy so he could have it available to rent on day one.

    Now mind you, this was at a time that the typical VHS movie cost about $20 or so from your local Sam Goody after it got through its inital rental exclusive period so the studios were working hard to see that they got their cut of the rental buisness up front. Thats why the store nailed us for $119 if we "forgot" to return our VHS back then instead of just charging us $20 or so to own it which would have seemed far more reasonable.

    You know what killed that model? Warner Bros. decided to forgo all that with the origional Tim Burton Batman, the film was in theaters durring the summer 1989, it was available on VHS to own by holiday 1989, and when I went into the mall and saw that it was like a real "Oh wow" moment for me. Hey, this movie was only in theaters six months ago and I can buy it for $20 in glorious VHS!! Two years later they were shutting down my favorite beat up $1 second run movie theater.

    Now you just stream it for a couple bucks a few months after the theatrical release.

    You kids will never know the pain of rewinding, or a two head that will not track properly, or even worse, having the tape tangle up in your VCR, or having to beg your mom for $1 to see it in the beat up 2nd run movie house knowing full well that its your last chance to see that movie for a couple of years, yeah, you kids don't know my pain *shakes old man fist at Valve for bringing these emotions to surface*
  25. Koreish
    Koreish Like Hell I won't my parents didn't even buy a DVD player until we couldn't find VHS anymore.
  26. Grimnoc
    Grimnoc
    Valve, I'm too old for this shit. I need my sequel, I need closure, I need to know how the story ends. Don't make me throw a temper tantrum!

    And if their past actions are any indication they'll probably never finish the story! :)

    Seriously though Valve, you know how to tell a story exceptionally well...but I'm really starting to doubt you actually have much of a story.

    (Maybe...I don't know...I'm kinda torn on the whole issue)
  27. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx Grimnoc, have you played all the way up to Episode 2 from the beginning?

    I love the story, and think it's a great example of storytelling in gaming. It's progressed nicely over the episodes.

    I can't think of many complaints about it.. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts against it.
  28. Thrax
    Thrax It didn't deserve best drama game.
  29. Winfrey
    Winfrey
    Thrax wrote:
    It didn't deserve best drama game.

    Yeah but they have those stupid "genres" that Half-Life couldn't fit into so they just stuck it in drama.
  30. GnomeWizardd
    GnomeWizardd Episode 3 is prolly done they are probably working on portal 2 and other to bundle with it in orange box 2.0
  31. Andrew A. I had hoped to be playing Ep 3 by the end of 2010... This is pretty discouraging news.

    The wait wouldn't be so painful if Valve just straight-up gave us an expected release date, month, or even year, that they could finish it by. If they know in advance that they won't make it, then they can tell us right away and push the date back. I don't want them to force a hard deadline on themselves, just keep us posted on the progress!!
  32. GHoosdum
    GHoosdum Valve has learned a lesson by the severity of the reaction from gamers when they've missed past deadlines; they'd probably consider themselves insane to announce any kind of date now. ;)
  33. FLUFFY! :D Valve is really pissing me off with this... In my opinion, they put to much on the at once... Portal 2, CS:S 2, TF Updates, L4D2 Updates, and Episode 3...

  34. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx Valve certainly has a lot going on, and they don't have any immediate plans for company expansion, (that we know of, anyways.) So they'll remain spread thin over their many projects.

    But CS:S is dead. So is Day of Defeat, and the original L4D. Perhaps saying L4D is dead is a long shot, but Valve stopped putting real time into CS:S years ago.
  35. Thrax
    Thrax And why should they? The CSTards are totally happy with their microcosm.
  36. Winfrey
    Winfrey 1.6 FOREVER!!11!!!!
  37. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx man, I went from two years of CS:S back to 1.6 in 2006 when my GPU died, and my replacement was a weaksauce Geforce 2 MX. I was surprised when I went back, I had forgotten how dang good 1.6 was.

    But I'm no elitist, I play CS:S over it when I can.
  38. FLUFFY! :D Apparently CS:S 2 is going to be "The better half of valve's real time gaming".

    lets see it beat what's already there :/
  39. genetix Who gives a damn what valve does.. as far for Left 4 Dead series is desperate attempt to keep people in there with an idea they release something while fail to deliver anything proper since 2004.

    I'd say when this comes out don't even buy it just for get back a bit.
  40. ardichoke
    ardichoke 0/10 - F--: Would not be trolled again.
  41. FLUFFY! :D I actually thought that they where all good. :P

    and i will buy it believe me...
  42. Dead_Pool Ya kno that valve is gona b workn on portal 2 now that they announced it...
  43. Koreish
    Koreish How insightful. I thought they might start on L4D3 or Counterstrike 2 after they announced Portal 2. Thank you though.
  44. EJtwisted If u ask me.. they tryin way too hard on left for dead 1,2& now 3!! Coming out with portal 2 sometime this year.. BUT WHERE IS episode 3?!?! They bein such a tease! Give us our game.. i jus rebeat all of orange box and i CANNOT wait till new one comes! :) so excited!

    --EJ
  45. ardichoke
    ardichoke -_-

    Some people just don't undestand sarcasm...
  46. FLUFFY! :D L4D 3.... wow....
  47. MarkLouisWebb There will not be an Episode 3. The episodic type release is dead. Ask Sin. Valve would rather work on mickey mouse games like L4D. Freeman no more.
  48. mas0n
    mas0n
    There will not be an Episode 3. The episodic type release is dead. Ask Sin. Valve would rather work on mickey mouse games like L4D. Freeman no more.

    Thanks for your opinion.
  49. Koreish
    Koreish Half life is what got them started it is there flagship game. They will not let it go but they will not release a game that is not great.
  50. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster
    There will not be an Episode 3. The episodic type release is dead. Ask Sin. Valve would rather work on mickey mouse games like L4D. Freeman no more.

    Oh, there will be more Half Life, don't you worry, and when it happens, fanboy's (like me) will wet their pants....

    I have faith.
  51. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx Sin sold approximately 30 copies (numbers may be exaggerated to help support point).

    Seriously, Sin didn't sell, Sin didn't continue. The Half-Life games have no such issue. Episode 3 would never be canceled, as it would Doom Valve.

    And they know that.
  52. Grimnoc
    Grimnoc
    UPSLynx wrote:
    Sin sold approximately 30 copies (numbers may be exaggerated to help support point).

    Seriously, Sin didn't sell, Sin didn't continue. The Half-Life games have no such issue. Episode 3 would never be canceled, as it would Doom Valve.

    And they know that.

    I don't know if it would doom them, but it certainly wouldn't help.
  53. Thrax
    Thrax omg random internet know-it-all says hl ep 3 wont get made PANIC DIGG DIGG DIGG
  54. Winfrey
    Winfrey HL 2: Episode 3 = Duke Nukem Forever !!!!

    ZOMG IT"S TRUE!!111!!1 I SEENS IT ON INTARWIBBSS
  55. Grimnoc
    Grimnoc Maybe if it never saw the light of day it would be for the better. I'm not sure if Valve knows where it's going with the story, or if they have one.

    There, I said it.
  56. coldalarm
    coldalarm
    Grimnoc wrote:
    Maybe if it never saw the light of day it would be for the better. I'm not sure if Valve knows where it's going with the story, or if they have one.

    There, I said it.
    As much as I hate to do so, I have to agree with this a little. It's seemed (to me) that Half Life 2, in retrospect, is a bit out there. It doesn't seem to make a huge amount of sense when thought about.

    That said, in a way I don't want them to rush it but at the same time I really want to play Ep 3. I'm starting to get a bit bored of waiting for Ep 3 and the continuation of the series.

    However, Portal 2 and L4D 1+2 DLC in the mean time. Awesome :D
  57. mas0n
    mas0n As much as I'm excited for Ep 3, I don't want it unless it's running on a new game engine, which should not be rushed. "Valve time" can be irritating, but they've never released a product I was disappointed with.
  58. coldalarm
    coldalarm There's nothing wrong with Source, though, especially the Orange Box version.
    Episode 3, if there has to be a final Source game, should be the one to end the engine's life, and then Half-Life 3 appearing on the next.
  59. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx
    Grimnoc wrote:
    Maybe if it never saw the light of day it would be for the better. I'm not sure if Valve knows where it's going with the story, or if they have one.

    There, I said it.

    Here you go trying this one again. Not satisfied with the results of the troll last time?

    Have you actually played all of the HL2 games? The story is fine. The games wouldn't have gotten so much critical acclaim while having a weak/confusing/nonexistant storyline.

    InB4 "but AVATAR had a crummy story and it was considered a masterpiece because of the technology prololol"

    No. Misplaced acclaim for the technology might have been at the core of Half-Life 2, but not with Episode 1, and certainly not with Episode 2. Three years after the initial release, that engine was doing nothing new at that point.
  60. FLUFFY! :D Half-Life has one of the best story lines I know.

    and yes they do have a story...

    I'll dig up the link to the video later, but in the video he states "We do have a story, and we are working on the next game of the series." The interviewer ask: "What will it be called?" He replies with "I can't tell you."

    *Interview closes*

    Then they talk about L42D...

    and yes... He mentions Portal 2, along with Counter Strike 2. sooo no telling...
  61. Thrax
    Thrax Counter-Strike 2: bunny hopping becomes the standard method of movement around a map; players are banned for walking.
  62. Joe I think Valve needs to take it's time, i would rather wait a decade for a really good game rather than just have a mediokre or TERRIBLE game come out every year EX:Madden
  63. johnny It's been three years, episodic or not that's a long time and they haven't released so much as a screenshot. I gave up waiting and let my opinion of valve drop a bit.
  64. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx I hate to admit that I agree with you. At least mention something about it. They've been busy working other games, and they haven't said a word about Ep 3 in years.
  65. fatcat
    fatcat Gordon Freeman is stuck in the future, 2012 to be exact, and in Ukraine

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  66. Gate28
    Gate28 What game is that Fatcat?
  67. fatcat
    fatcat
    Gate28 wrote:
    What game is that Fatcat?

    S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
  68. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster
    UPSLynx wrote:
    I hate to admit that I agree with you. At least mention something about it. They've been busy working other games, and they haven't said a word about Ep 3 in years.

    They are just repeating the success formula for Half Life 2. Remember, Half Life 2 felt like that game that would never arrive, but somehow, absence made the heart grow fonder.

    I trust in Valve, they know what they are doing. When it gets here, and it will, eventually.... It will be quality.
  69. Tushon
    Tushon
    UPSLynx wrote:
    I hate to admit that I agree with you. At least mention something about it. They've been busy working other games, and they haven't said a word about Ep 3 in years.
    I sense your faith is weak. Learn from a true fanboy and follow in the footsteps of Cliff
  70. Koreish
    Koreish
    UPSLynx wrote:
    I hate to admit that I agree with you. At least mention something about it. They've been busy working other games, and they haven't said a word about Ep 3 in years.

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  71. Bandrik
  72. Tushon
    Tushon
    Bandrik wrote:
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    All the DOTAs are better than a nerd with a crowbar and a major speech impediment.
  73. Bandrik
    Bandrik
    Tushon wrote:
    All the DOTAs are better than a nerd with a crowbar and a major speech impediment.

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  74. Thrax
    Thrax That DOTA shoop will be better than the entire game.
  75. Winfrey
    Winfrey The troll is strong in this one.
  76. Bandrik
    Bandrik
    Thrax wrote:
    That DOTA shoop will be better than the entire game.

    My aim is to please. :vimp:
  77. Bandrik
    Bandrik I noticed that the font in DOTA 2's logo is Trajan. I decided to continue my shoopfest. I bring you this.

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  78. Tushon
    Tushon
    Bandrik wrote:
    I noticed that the font in DOTA 2's logo is Trajan. I decided to continue my shoopfest. I bring you this.

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    Your trollfest is appreciated
  79. Bandrik
  80. primesuspect
    primesuspect

    It has been 10 years today since Half-Life 2: Episode 3 was announced.

  81. RahnalH102
    RahnalH102

    And still not the longest development cycle. Definitely getting close though.

  82. Snarkasm
    Snarkasm

    @GnomeWizardd said:
    Episode 3 is prolly done they are probably working on portal 2 and other to bundle with it in orange box 2.0

    We were so optimistic...

  83. primesuspect
  84. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx

    That video seriously hurts to watch. Valve couldn't be more dead to me. Call me entitled all you want, but the spark is gone. 12 years of empty promises is too much for me. The only Valve product I've cared about in the last half decade is TF2, and as of tonight, I now have Overwatch. Those guys can keep their summer game sales, DOTA 2 and hats. Don't need em anymore.

  85. Linc
    Linc

    @UPSLynx said:
    Valve couldn't be more dead to me. Call me entitled all you want, but the spark is gone. 12 years of empty promises is too much for me.

    If Half Life 3 dropped today, you'd take it all back.

  86. Thrax
    Thrax

    I would probably wait for it to hit $10. Not worth it any more.

  87. MAGIC
    MAGIC

    Yeah, if they've been working on it for 12 years the graphics probably suck anyways. Would not buy.

  88. primesuspect
    primesuspect

    Look, if I can become a Star Wars fan again, I'm ready for anything. The day HL2:Ep3 or HL3 is announced, I'll be all over that shit, jumping for joy, crying man tears, etc.

    In the meantime: CLOVERFIELD IS HALF-LIFE

  89. _k
    _k

    @UPSLynx said:
    That video seriously hurts to watch. [...], but the spark is gone. 12 years of empty promises is too much for me.

    If they produced a HL3 it would be nice just to have a close out on the story and series, or a close out on Valve as a game company. Even if it is a horrible piece of garbage there isn't the question of what could have been. We saw it with Duke Nukem, seems lucky that IP got so tied up it killed the isometric Nukem game that was in production, so there isn't any wonder because you just vomit when you think of how done that franchise is.

  90. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx

    @Linc said:

    @UPSLynx said:
    Valve couldn't be more dead to me. Call me entitled all you want, but the spark is gone. 12 years of empty promises is too much for me.

    If Half Life 3 dropped today, you'd take it all back.

    I'm not saying I would never buy it or play it, but I recognize that I'll likely be disappointed in it no matter what. Gaming has changed too much, and I don't have a lot of faith that the Valve of today is able to adapt to the modern world of Shooters. We all love Half-Life for what it was - a 90's/2000's shooter. But that kind of style just doesn't work anymore. Half-Life 3 would almost certainly have some kind of stupid moneitization hook, like the crates/keys combo valve puts in everything these days.

    Very, very rarely does a game franchise go quiet for 12+ years, then make a return without being completely and utterly disappointing. There are big lessons to be learned in games like Duke Nukem Forever.

  91. Karma
    Karma

    @UPSLynx said:

    Gaming has changed too much, and I don't have a lot of faith that the Valve of today is able to adapt to the modern world of Shooters. We all love Half-Life for what it was - a 90's/2000's shooter. But that kind of style just doesn't work anymore.

    Very, very rarely does a game franchise go quiet for 12+ years, then make a return without being completely and utterly disappointing.

    I don't disagree with you. But you keep saying a lot of gaming has changed and shooters are different and all that but can you give some concrete examples of what you mean by that. We may or may not be on the same page I don't know.

    Also, how many franchises are there that go quiet for 12 years and make a come back?

  92. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster

    Valve has taken a strange turn. It's as if being the worlds greatest PC game developer simply paved the way for several other enterprises.

    Someone made a comparison to the Duke Nukem Forever release, that's silly. Once you remove the nostalgia goggles Duke Nukem was never a great franchise. Half Life however is an incredible franchise.

    I'm with @primesuspect - The Cloverfield films are Half Life stories. My bet is that the powers that be are looking for a way to meld all the moving parts together in some way, have film, books, TV, games... build on the mythology, Valve has spent a few years positioning themselves as a broader media company, no longer are they simply a great PC gaming developer. When more Half Life games happen, we will all pay to play them, because they will be immediately relevant in a way that something like Duke Nukem could never attain.

  93. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx

    @Karma said:

    @UPSLynx said:

    Gaming has changed too much, and I don't have a lot of faith that the Valve of today is able to adapt to the modern world of Shooters. We all love Half-Life for what it was - a 90's/2000's shooter. But that kind of style just doesn't work anymore.

    Very, very rarely does a game franchise go quiet for 12+ years, then make a return without being completely and utterly disappointing.

    I don't disagree with you. But you keep saying a lot of gaming has changed and shooters are different and all that but can you give some concrete examples of what you mean by that. We may or may not be on the same page I don't know.

    The recent DOOM game is a perfect example of this. It's a game that banged the drums of nostalgia for months during it's marketing campaign. A "back to roots" shooter, built just like the originals.

    Yet, the game came out, and it's different. It's not like the original games. It's slower, there's 1-shot elaborate kill moves, there's "quickthrow" grenades, there's "quickshot" melee hits. These are the kind of fundamental gameplay mechanics that weren't mainstream when Half-Life 2 came out in 2004.

    Regenerating health is another good example in shooters. This is a feature that has become so accepted and commonplace in shooters in the last decade that DOOM made headlines when it didn't have it in the game.

    That is not to say that DOOM is a bad game, or that these features are bad. It's just that these are the kind of things that an entire generation of gamers now expect in video games (the generation that is now the target market of these games). These things heavily impact game design, and they're very counter to how a game like Half-Life 2 plays. Modern, young players don't want to pick up health and armor packs (or wait at a suit recharge station), or roll the mouse to select a grenade, pull it out, then toss it. Same with Half-Life's platforming and long vehicle sections - remnants of an old time that most players hate in 2016. There are design elements that go way deeper than these kind of things, but these are the easiest examples to see.

    Hope that makes sense. I wrestle with this stuff because I see it every day at work. I want games to be made like the original Half-Life, but every day it becomes more and more apparent that I'm just growing out of the target market for how games are designed.

  94. AlexDeGruven
    AlexDeGruven

    I'm playing through HL2 on my Shield Tablet and I was reminded of something that the Half Life franchise had that most shooters didn't. They're not just straight FPS games, they're an interesting mix of FPS and puzzler, plus it had a good narrative tying everything together.

    Anyone can make a shooter (look at 420 BlazeIt), but a HalfLife comes along once in a lifetime.

  95. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster

    SteamSpy has Black Mesa at 300K copies purchased. Six million in revenue for an unfinished remake makes me think someone is still okay with the idea of picking up health along the way. There is room for different mechanics.

  96. Signal
    Signal

    @Cliff_Forster said:
    SteamSpy has Black Mesa at 300K copies purchased. Six million in revenue for an unfinished remake makes me think someone is still okay with the idea of picking up health along the way. There is room for different mechanics.

    The best thing about this was reliving all the nostalgia without the outdated graphics screaming "THIS GAME IS OLD!" It was like playing it for the first time again.

  97. AlexDeGruven
    AlexDeGruven

    I'm still waffling on picking up Black Mesa. I might after I finish HL2 and HL2: Ep1 on my tablet.

    I still get chills when I hear:

    They're waiting for you, Gordon. In the test chamber.

  98. Snarkasm
    Snarkasm

    @AlexDeGruven said:
    I'm playing through HL2 on my Shield Tablet and I was reminded of something that the Half Life franchise had that most shooters didn't. They're not just straight FPS games, they're an interesting mix of FPS and puzzler, plus it had a good narrative tying everything together.

    Anyone can make a shooter (look at 420 BlazeIt), but a HalfLife comes along once in a lifetime.

    Uncharted would like a word with you.

  99. AlexDeGruven
    AlexDeGruven

    Ok, once or twice in a lifetime.

  100. Snarkasm
    Snarkasm

    Would you say, perhaps, once in a.... Half Life?

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