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Radeon HD 5830 specs revealed

Radeon HD 5830 specs revealed

Even though the Radeon HD 5000 series has expanded to eight parts since its September 2009 introduction, AMD appears to have one more part left: Chinese website IT168 has today “leaked” slides that completely detail the Radeon HD 5830.

Designed as an enthusiast GPU (as all 58xx adapters are), the 5830 is intended to fit between the 5770 and the 5850 in terms of performance. It accomplishes this role by cutting the 5850’s stream processor count from to 1120 from 1440, and its ROPs–the hardware unit which puts pixels on the screen, as well as anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering–from 32 to 16.

Through these changes, the card will certainly be faster than the 5770, but slower than the 5850, particularly when it comes to post-processing techniques like AA and AF.

There is, however, an aberration in the spec sheet: Even though the 5830 features fewer stream processors and fewer ROP units than the 5850, its max board power is 24W higher. The only way to explain this anomaly is to suggest that the 5830 is a failed 5870, with architectural elements that have been “disabled” to make a good card out of a failed one. Disabled silicon still takes power. Had the 5830 been designed as a unique chip, we’d find that it max power draw–like its performance–would fall in between the 5850 and 5770.

In the end, however, the Ps and Qs of the design are relatively immaterial. The 5830 will offer better performance than the 5770 at a pricepoint lower than that of the 5850, and nobody is going to argue with having a wide variety of options for all budget and performance considerations.

Comments

  1. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster If they hit $199 with them people will go nuts for them. I'm curious to see where they will end up.
  2. clifford_cooley
    clifford_cooley If this is indeed a crippled 5870 would that sway your decision in buying it?
    Even if the price is sub $200?
  3. mas0n
    mas0n Potential power consumption might be a little higher than we'd like for a xx30 part, but as far as performance and reliability, being a "crippled" 5870 has no impact. This is essentially aggressive binning and is not much different than what we already see in the rest of the GPU and CPU industry.
  4. Thrax
    Thrax ^ This. As we said, the Ps and Qs of the architecture are immaterial. Yes, the load consumption is a little high, but that doesn't mean the part is somehow shoddy or not worthy of purchase.
  5. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster
    If this is indeed a crippled 5870 would that sway your decision in buying it?
    Even if the price is sub $200?

    I have a 5870 so not so much in my case, but I have used "crippled" chips in the past and as long as they present a good value and perform for the applications I want to run, I'm all for it.

    Like I said, I think $199 is the magic price here, if they are $199 gamers on a budget are going to snap this thing up as soon as it hits the shelf, if its more, they may pinch pennies until they can get a step up, or just wait and see what Nvidia does.

    If I'm AMD, my strategy is to strike before Fermi is released, give up just a little bit of my margin to get AMD parts in systems right now, so those users will have far less incentive to consider Nvidia when they do finally get around to releasing a DX11 gamer card. AMD has enjoyed months of high margin's without challenge, I would not be surprised to see them preemptively lower their price across the line a little, and drop the 5830 for $199 which in many gamers mind is the magic barrier for what makes a reasonably priced piece of graphics tech. With crossfire boards and higher quality power supplies as prevelant as they are, some users will eat that up knowing they can buy a $199 card today and crossfire it in a few months for even less than that when AMD does a full line refresh and just as importantly for AMD, get Fermi off the option chart for that gamer.

    In today's comparative terms, it looks like you could say the 5830 is about 10% better than a GTX 275, but with an important feature in DX11 readiness. If they price it right gamers that have been waiting for a better price are going to have a hard time not pulling the trigger.
  6. Zuntar
    Zuntar ^ And I'm one of them.
  7. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster Well, its out, and its $259. Too much in my opinion. It serves no meaningful niche at that price. Thats where the 5850 started at before it got inflated due to lack of alternatives in the enthusiast graphics market.

    It performs well from the reviews I have seen, but when you look at other Radeon's, its just not fitting in any place that makes sense to me. The 5850 performs about 25% better for 10% more cash, the 5770 is about 20% less card, but it is priced 40% better.

    The 5830 needs to cost a little less to look appealing.
  8. Ryder
    Ryder I will have one tomorrow.

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