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The holiday HTPC

The holiday HTPC

The hardware

While acquiring other hardware was a cinch, I was unable to acquire an HTPC case that was both economical and functional. My issues with the various cases were dominated by the prevalence of cases with small, noisy fans, or no fans at all. Where are the quiet, well-ventilated cases? While my hunt continues, I chose the Antec 300 chassis as an interim stand in.

As I mentioned, grabbing core hardware to do the job was a easy. While the chosen components may not fit everyone with one size, the HTPC’s specifications can easily be upgraded or downgraded depending on your needs. Without further ado, let’s take a look at the products and their role.

Some of the components I used

A selection of the components used in the HTPC.

Motherboard: DFI Blood-Iron P45-T2RS

Given that nothing in the Blood-Iron is done to excess — including its price — there are few boards with a better price/feature ratio. It has the added benefit of providing some compelling selling points:

  • Intel P45 chipset.
  • 800/1066/1333 bus support.
  • 2x PCI Express 2.0 X16 with CrossFire support.
  • Onboard HD 7.1 audio.
  • Onboard RAID 0, 1, 0+1 and RAID 5
  • Very overclocker-friendly BIOS

There are other slightly more inexpensive options — like the ASUS P5Q SE PLUS, ASUS P5Q Pro, or DFI BloodIron P35-T2RL — that would also work well for the job. On the other end of the price the scale, $300 motherboards mean the sky is practically the limit.

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300

Perhaps even overkill for our task, this is an extremely powerful processor that will handle anything we throw at the HTPC. If a quad seems outlandish, other viable options include the Core 2 Duo E8400, or the Core 2 Duo E7200. As an aside, I really feel that an AMD processor would not do as well for this type of application.

CPU Cooling: XIGMATEK HDT-S1284EE

While you don’t always need super cooling, I believe it is significantly preferred to the stock cooler that Intel provides. I opted for this Xigmatek sink because it is inexpensive and has respectable performance. Had I found an HTPC case that suited my needs, a lower-profile option may have been required, so keep that in mind.

Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)

This 4GB memory kit is a high-quality product that is a real bargain. While you could easily go with 2GB of DDR2-SDRAM, memory is so cheap these days that there’s no reason not to go with 4GB. In terms of alternative options, there are so many good manufacturers like Corsair, G. SKILL, and OCZ that it pays to do a little homework.

Graphics Card: Powercolor Radeon HD 4830

We needed a robust and inexpensive card that could make quick work of content from sources like HD-DVD and Blu-ray, and the 4830 fit that bill. Additionally, we chose it because it’s one of the few cards that can process 7.1 audio over an HDMI connector. You’d be surprised how rare this feature is, so be sure to evaluate your choice carefully before finalizing your decision.

Hard Disks:

I decided to run this system with two separate drives: One 80 GB drive is for the operating system and applications, and a second 500 GB drive for storage. Everyone’s storage needs are obviously different, but the use of two separate drives is consistent with my basic philosophy of isolating the OS from my valuable files. Not only can this improve speed, it will definitely improve the reliability of your storage.

In this case, I chose the Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST380815A for my OS and programs and the Seagate SV35.3 ST3500320SV for all my storage. I also keep a separate network drive for backups of all of my critical files. This is a good backup practice for everyone!

Optical Drives:

I went for two optical drives on this system, primarily so I could perform on-the-fly copying. I picked the Samsung 22X SH-S223F DVD burner for my heavy usage drive, and the LG Black Blu-ray/HD DVD-ROM GGC-220L for playing BD and HD-DVD movies. I didn’t feel as though a good high-definition media system could be complete without the ability to play 1080p movies.

The LG combo drive is a great addition and worked very well once I got the firmware updated. This drive not only allows me to play future titles in the newly emergent Blu-ray standard, but also allows me to buy scads of HD DVDs for cheap. I have saved a ton of money on high-definition movies this way!

TV Tuner Card: Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1800 MCE Kit 1128

A good tuner card is an essential part of any good Media System, and this card has NSTC/ATSC/QAM tuners for DTV, Cable TV, delayed digital recording, and FM radio.

The included remote control is also Windows Media Center-compatible and worked very well with Windows Media Center. It also worked well for DVD, HD DVD, Blu-ray playback, as the remote was compatible with the Windows XP MCE UI.

Wi-Fi Connection:

Any new system needs good Wi-Fi so I added the EDIMAX EW-7728In to my system. I chose it for dependability, but really any 802.11G or 802.11n card will do well.

Expandability: nMEDIAPC ZE-C138

I wanted to add more USB2.0 , HD audio, Firewire, and eSATA ports as well as a multi-card reader/writer to the front of the system, and this little gadget gets the job done.

Case: Antec 300

As mentioned above, I found this case to be much better for my needs than any HTPC case for the same price. It has excellent cooling and is still reasonably compact. The best part is that it was only $50!

Power Supply: Corsair CMPSU-650TX

I had originally included a PC Power and Cooling Turbocool 500 for this system, but I decided to up the power a little so as not to fall short if I decided to upgrade a bit down the road. Given the number of positive reviews for this unit, I would have been remiss not to run with it. It is very solid, holds its rails well, has very long cables, and is pleasantly quiet.

Peripherals: Logitech Wireless Slim Cordless Desktop S 510

I thought this would be a good addition to this system and that is all there is to it.

A front-on shot of the final build.

A front-on shot of the final build.

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Comments

  1. jared
    jared So can you watch Blu-ray movies in MCE (using the CyberDVD decoder) or do you actually have to use their DVD app for playback?
  2. BuddyJ
    BuddyJ Nice. It's surely future-proof, but for a pure media center, it really seems like overkill. You can do full 1080p HD playback on a 780G motherboard with the integrated graphics alone as I understand it using the lowest clocked AM2+ chips. Why'd you go for the big Intel, full ATX board and HD 4830? Will you be doing encoding too?
  3. Mt_Goat
    Mt_Goat
    jared wrote:
    So can you watch Blu-ray movies in MCE (using the CyberDVD decoder) or do you actually have to use their DVD app for playback?

    MCE has no provisions for HD or BD and so far I can not find a way to add it to MCE via the other programs option.
  4. Mt_Goat
    Mt_Goat
    Buddy J wrote:
    Nice. It's surely future-proof, but for a pure media center, it really seems like overkill. You can do full 1080p HD playback on a 780G motherboard with the integrated graphics alone as I understand it using the lowest clocked AM2+ chips. Why'd you go for the big Intel, full ATX board and HD 4830? Will you be doing encoding too?

    For me it is more than just a pure media center. It is also intended to replace my previous build as my main PC and be capable of doing everything including Folding@Home.

    I tried the BD/HDDVD drive on a few different combinations to test for minimum compatability and found the following;
    • Opteron170 OC 2.4 / 2GB DDR400 / Nvidia 7600 = very poor playback
    • Opteron170 OC 2.4 / 2GB DDR400 / ATI 1800 = poor playback
    • Opteron170 OC2.4 / 2GB DDR400 / HD 4830 = barely passable playback
    • E7200 / 4GB DDR800 / Nvidia 7600= slightly jittery playback
    • E7200 / 4GB DDR800 / ATI HD 3850 = very good playback

    So for another $20 or so more than the 3850 I upped to the 4830, which is a lot more card. It is also harder to get massive HSF's to fit in micro boards. My fullest extension is to do video editing.
  5. Nolf-Job
    Nolf-Job Aside from maybe an obvious disdain for Vista, might I ask why you opted for MCE 2005 instead of a Vista version?
  6. jared
    jared That was going to be my next question, I know MCE 2005 is showing it's age and it is unknown if MS will ever add blu-ray support to it.

    What about Vista? Does anyone know if Vista MCE (or whatever it is called) supports HD-DVD or Blu-ray within MCE itself?
  7. Mt_Goat
    Mt_Goat
    Nolf-Job wrote:
    Aside from maybe an obvious disdain for Vista, might I ask why you opted for MCE 2005 instead of a Vista version?

    I have tried vista more than once and just don't care for it. It uses too much system resources, makes control harder and doesn't offer enough to make me want it. Vista Home premium isn't too far off in terms of features but it just doesn't perform for me!
    jared wrote:
    What about Vista? Does anyone know if Vista MCE (or whatever it is called) supports HD-DVD or Blu-ray within MCE itself?

    I have looked and so far there is no support. I really don't see where it would be of any real benefit anyway.
  8. BuddyJ
    BuddyJ Gotcha! If you're doing video editing etc, it makes perfect sense.
  9. Komete
    Komete Great review and advice. At some point down the road, I plan to build one, and like you I want it to have more power than just a regular HTPC. But I would rather not run any media center sort of OS. Are there any freeware programs that load from within Vista or XP that'll give you the same features? I've tried out HP's solution and liked it but then you need an HP.

    Also, how is the image quality using an LCD TV from within windows? Text on websites clear enough? What about using it for photo shop?
  10. Snarkasm
    Snarkasm
    jared wrote:
    What about Vista? Does anyone know if Vista MCE (or whatever it is called) supports HD-DVD or Blu-ray within MCE itself?

    I'm not sure if Media Center itself supports either at the moment, but I know it'll play HD-DVD and Blu-Ray through software (I've played HD-DVDs via a version of PowerDVD or whatever with the 360's drive). I think it's slated to get BR write support with SP2, but I'm not sure it'll have native support (and thus via the Media Center) any time soon. Still, being able to play via programs is just as good as playing through Media Center in my view, but I think you can do that on MCE05 just fine as well.

    In other words, you can cross your fingers, but it'll probably end up the same either way.

    Also, Komete, you can get something like MythTV or the like that is some alternative MC software. I think even XBMC works on top of some OSes now.

    The trouble with using TVs for monitors is usually pixel density. I had a 32" LCD TV that was only 1366x768 when used in VGA. That's worse than my 19" 1680x1050. It's just that everything's HUGE.
  11. Thrax
    Thrax XBMC is a fine solution, but has no support for tuner cards.

    The ultimate HTPC solution is MythTV. Nothing else comes close, but it has a steeper learning curve.
  12. jared
    jared MediaPortal is XBMC with Tuner support. It was actually developed after one of the original XBMC devs left the project to start his own work. It on the same level as MythTV - assuming you don't mind using the Windows platform.

    http://www.team-mediaportal.com/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaPortal

    A handy page that will help you decide which platform is right for you.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_PVR_software_packages

    (clearly MediaPortal and MythTV are the winners here)
  13. Mt_Goat
    Mt_Goat
    Komete wrote:
    Great review and advice. At some point down the road, I plan to build one, and like you I want it to have more power than just a regular HTPC. But I would rather not run any media center sort of OS. Are there any freeware programs that load from within Vista or XP that'll give you the same features? I've tried out HP's solution and liked it but then you need an HP.

    Also, how is the image quality using an LCD TV from within windows? Text on websites clear enough? What about using it for photo shop?

    I don't really see where the MCE component itself is an end all in any way what so ever. The biggest thing I see with it is that you can use a universal type remote that comes with many HTPC cases and tuner cards to run everything. I have no problem using stand alone software to do the desired task! As I pointed out, I will likely end up using separate software for HD DVD and Blu Ray. BTW my remote that came with the tuner card (and is MCE compliant) runs my Power DVD program just fine as well as WMP! Also as I pointed out in the article MCE 2005 is Windows XP Professional with the MCE added. And you can use the MCE as you wish or not. I would buy the same OS again and probably just not use the MCE for my next desktop build. It will save my some cash if nothong else since it is XP Pro in reality.

    Viewed on my 52" 1080p (1920 x 1080 resolution) Windows looks to be stretched as far as it can go. I had to enable large font and clear type to read well. But at the 10' viewing distance I have from my bed it looks and reads OK. As a matter of fact I have been using this set up more than my desktop lately. Pictures and everthing else look great and it is just the native windows resolution that craps out. I feel that a 40" or 42" panel would be optimum for maximum size.
  14. Mt_Goat
    Mt_Goat
    Snarkasm wrote:
    The trouble with using TVs for monitors is usually pixel density. I had a 32" LCD TV that was only 1366x768 when used in VGA. That's worse than my 19" 1680x1050.
    It is much better with 1080p than 720 for sure.
    It's just that everything's HUGE.
    So much better for pROn! ;)
  15. drasnor
    drasnor
    Mt_Goat wrote:
    The biggest thing I see with it is that you can use a universal type remote that comes with many HTPC cases and tuner cards to run everything.
    Intelliremote is a cheap way to get most any kind of computer remote to work with Windows. I've been using it for years with the Live! Drive in my HTPC because Creative's software sucks. Recent versions support all kinds of craziness (ATI's RF remotes, Bluetooth remotes like cell phones and Wiimotes, etc.) I'm using it currently with the external box on my Audigy2 ZS, a Logitech Harmony remote, and XP x64 Edition. You know it's solid if it can make that hodgepodge work flawlessly :D.

    -drasnor :fold:

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