Which 9800Pro?

primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' BoopinDetroit, MI Icrontian
edited April 2004 in Hardware
Which manufacturer do you guys recommend? Basically in the ~$225 range from newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?catalog=48&DEPA=1&submit=property&mfrcode=0&propertycode=&propertycodevalue=4632,3668
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  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited March 2004
    sapphire ...although I just found out this week that mine has the samsung ram. If I were replacing it at this very moment it would be with this refurbed card @ $156 even though this is the card I bought new ...I think that they purposely blur out the ram mfg's IMO.
  • TheSmJTheSmJ
    edited March 2004
    I've heard great things about Sapphire.

    So you finally convinced the wife, eh Prime? :thumbsup:
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited March 2004
    Well, let's put it this way: We just got paid for a big job that we did a few months ago, so I'm going to celebrate... :)
  • FormFactorFormFactor At the core of forgotten
    edited March 2004
    Definately the saphire!

    This one in particular. I just got one and it ROCKS!

    The R360 GPU is the same as the XT card and flashable to XT from what I have read. Checkout Madballs thread on bios flashing the card for details on that. Also plenty of overclocking room with that chip and the samsung memory on this card.



    U may even want to pick up an Arctic Cooling GPU cooling kit to puch it even harder.

    Battlefield vietnam looks almost real on this card :D
  • TheSmJTheSmJ
    edited March 2004
    All this talk about vid cards is drivin' me nuts! I want to wait for the "big ones" to come out (HL2 and D3) before I upgrade this 4600, but at the same time.... I just want a new card!
  • rykoryko new york
    edited March 2004
    OEM Sapphire all the way----from newegg for $212..................

    FormFactor is right one with the advice about the 9800xt flash. It worked for me like a charm and now my 9800pro is an 9800xt (128mb of course)

    Also must thank MadBall for the BIOS file he posted!
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited March 2004
    will you overclock it brian?
  • fudgamfudgam Upstate New York
    edited March 2004
    Ive had good luck with my saphire card.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited March 2004
    Overclock - probably not. Although TheSMJ will probably burn me at the stake for saying that. I'm pretty sure that since it will be at the office, it will eventually be SMJed...
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited March 2004
    Well, I got it today...

    All I can say is: holy ****

    What a world of difference. UT2K4 looks amazing. I can actually play it for real now.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited March 2004
    What did you upgrade from? I've toyed with the idea of buying a 9800 Pro for the NF7 and throwing the 9700 Pro in the dual athlon system, and then putting the replacement for the dead 9700 Pro in the "Print Server", but I don't think the 9800 is that much faster than the 9700... it's what, like 10% faster, right?
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited March 2004
    I upgraded from a GF5200FX
  • Omatic810Omatic810 Gainesville, FL
    edited March 2004
    Aww man i coulda had a 9800 pro for $156!?

    I spent $175 on a new 9700 pro a month ago! Crap!!!
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited March 2004
    Eww. Yeah, Prime, if you upgraded from a graphics decelerator like that, then yeah... the 9800 Pro would be a huge difference.

    GFFX... *gag*
  • TheSmJTheSmJ
    edited March 2004
    Aww man i coulda had a 9800 pro for $156!?

    From where?
  • EyesOnlyEyesOnly Sweden New
    edited March 2004
    Thanks for the advices. Looks like i too know what to get now.
  • DoraemonDoraemon UK
    edited March 2004
    I have a Sapphire ATI 9800Pro 128mb.
    Ever since I have installed the card it crashes during game play - fine during normal desktop usage. I ran LOADS of tests for days and resorted to blowing a house fan straight on to the card - Worked fine for 5 hours.
    Soon as I turned the fan off it crashed within 10 minutes.
    Games play between 5 - 30 mins before it crashes.
    I have read alot of reviews now advising that the cards overheat big style with Catylst 3.8 and the best is 3.7 - Has anyone heard if catylst 3.10 creates problems with the cards overheating? I have tried an old 7500 ATI and that worked fine.
    Everything else on the PC is fine.

    Spec
    ASRock m/b – K7S8XE+
    512mb Ram
    AMD Athlon Barton 2600+
    Cooler Master Fan on CPU
    Maxtor SATA 120Gig drive
    Maxtor IDE 120 Gig drive
    Pioneer DVD 107 burner
    ATI Sapphire Radeon 9800Pro 128mb graphics card (fan working fine)
    Creative Labs 5.1 Dolby card
    Qtec Power Supply 500watt large fan - 12v = peak is 18A and max is 14A
    3 Silent Fan’s cooling the case (it’s cool in the case and even with the sides open it still hangs so not a heat issue)
    Connection is to 1mb cable modem connection via a firewall and router – all tested and fine.
    Return To Castle Wolfenstein – Version 1.3, tried 1.41 patch
    Star Wars Galaxies – all patches downloaded automatically when accessing the star war’s servers.
    CPU 32C
    M/B 24C
    CPU Fan Speed 3090RPM
    Chasis Fans speed 3148RPM
    V Core 1.670V
    +3.30V 3.1405V
    +5.00V 5.139V
    +12.00V 12.322V

    Reckon it's the 3.10 version on the card and should I revert to 3.7?

    Thanks
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited March 2004
    Feel the back of the card right above the GPU just after it crashes. GPU manufacturers allow their cards to run very, very hot. Much hotter, IMO, than they should be allowed to run. I think you may just be running into a lack of airflow around the AGP slot.
  • EyesOnlyEyesOnly Sweden New
    edited March 2004
    I don't know what could cause this except prolly a faulting psu. Why don't you use cat 4.3.
  • DoraemonDoraemon UK
    edited March 2004
    Geeky1 wrote:
    Feel the back of the card right above the GPU just after it crashes. GPU manufacturers allow their cards to run very, very hot. Much hotter, IMO, than they should be allowed to run. I think you may just be running into a lack of airflow around the AGP slot.

    Yupe it's hot.

    Works fine with a house fan blasting air into it.
    Shall I buy a CPU cooler? I am RMA back to supplier anyway just incase it's a faulty card.....
  • DoraemonDoraemon UK
    edited March 2004
    EyesOnly wrote:
    I don't know what could cause this except prolly a faulting psu. Why don't you use cat 4.3.


    But wouldn't the 500 Watt PSU fail to power the graphics card with the house fan on? It's only diverting air on to the card and not touching the PSU. So if it was a faulty PSU then with the fan on/off then wouldn't it hang and crash the machine during playing games?
  • EyesOnlyEyesOnly Sweden New
    edited March 2004
    Doraemon wrote:
    But wouldn't the 500 Watt PSU fail to power the graphics card with the house fan on? It's only diverting air on to the card and not touching the PSU. So if it was a faulty PSU then with the fan on/off then wouldn't it hang and crash the machine during playing games?

    Well i was only speculating and it does seem as geeky wqas right. didn't see his post. still there are better brands but that's for later.
  • DoraemonDoraemon UK
    edited March 2004
    EyesOnly wrote:
    Well i was only speculating and it does seem as geeky wqas right. didn't see his post. still there are better brands but that's for later.

    This is my 2nd ATI card. First was the 7500.

    Used to have Nvidia and NEVER had any problems with them.

    What's a better card to buy to run a plasma via a PC?
  • DoraemonDoraemon UK
    edited March 2004
    EyesOnly wrote:
    I don't know what could cause this except prolly a faulting psu. Why don't you use cat 4.3.

    Tried 3.7 and crashed (gr8!)
    Tried 4.3 and crashed.
  • EyesOnlyEyesOnly Sweden New
    edited March 2004
    strange
  • citrixmetacitrixmeta Montreal, Quebec Icrontian
    edited March 2004
    im thinking of getting a 9800pro too, i wonder if its a huge jump from my 9700pro (370/370)
  • FormFactorFormFactor At the core of forgotten
    edited March 2004
    citrixmeta wrote:
    im thinking of getting a 9800pro too, i wonder if its a huge jump from my 9700pro (370/370)

    Not a HUGE jump.


    I just upgraded from a 9700 pro.

    more of a step up than a huge jump. But if u got teh cash...
  • jagermeisterjagermeister
    edited April 2004
    Doraemon wrote:
    I have a Sapphire ATI 9800Pro 128mb.
    Ever since I have installed the card it crashes during game play - fine during normal desktop usage.

    had the same problem http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11843 and after one of my ram gave up, i finally realized my fan is spinnig
    bagwards,(ati 9800 pro saphire)now with only one ram,and new katalyst,i can at least play bf 1943 again ,but i miss my full gig of ram,das anybody ever loocked wich way your fan is spinning??? :bawling:
  • TheSmJTheSmJ
    edited April 2004
    I think your keyboard is backwards, too. ;)
  • FormFactorFormFactor At the core of forgotten
    edited April 2004
    jagermeister wrote:
    had the same problem http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11843 and after one of my ram gave up, i finally realized my fan is spinnig
    bagwards,(ati 9800 pro saphire)now with only one ram,and new katalyst,i can at least play bf 1943 again ,but i miss my full gig of ram,das anybody ever loocked wich way your fan is spinning??? :bawling:


    Now THAT is strange! I have never heard of that happening. Thats some really bad luck.
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