To make things easier for our welcomed guests, Ive added a field where you can specify a nickname to tag yourself (rather than everyone just being logged as "unregistered")
As a site admin, Im going to construct a news article on this and tidy this up to focus more on the problem in hand AND hopefully we can attract a few more people who have had this misfortune.
The more who report this crappy and submit information to you guys and the police, the more power you have to hopefully bring this "merchants" down.
First thing you have to do is report this to 1/Trading Standards 2/Police. Once you have done both of them we should all get together and provide as many report numbers as possible then re-update the people you told. Maybe that way they will move quicker.
I'm not sure if that's you Kris (Aviation) but if its not then I suggest you send a brief e-mail to Kris @ the following address. I am in contact with himand he is one step ahead of the game; trying to co-ordinate all different case information.
Heres the address and good luck.
EdmondsKJE"@aol.com (REMOVE THE SPEECH MARKS WHEN SENDING; THIS IS USED TO AVOIS SPAM)
To make things easier for our welcomed guests, Ive added a field where you can specify a nickname to tag yourself (rather than everyone just being logged as "unregistered")
As a site admin, Im going to construct a news article on this and tidy this up to focus more on the problem in hand AND hopefully we can attract a few more people who have had this misfortune.
The more who report this crappy and submit information to you guys and the police, the more power you have to hopefully bring this "merchants" down.
Thanks Shorty,
Will you start a new forum thread regarding this Avnet matter and move our posts from this thread to the new one? It is much appreciated that those of us who are affected can have somewhere to discuss this and co-ordinate our actions.
Anyone reading this who has been taken in my Avnet should register with this forum and provide us with details of what happened. It is important to inform the police so that there are as many crime reports as possible. This should hopefully increase the likelihood of the police putting some efforts into tracking the guilty party down.
Dean - have you reported this to the police? Can you make sure Kris and / or I have details such as your Crime Report Number and police station at which reported. It would also be useful to have details of the bank account into which you paid the money (you can private mail this to us as I understand that posting those details on here might cause problems for the moderators). Thanks.
i've have got the same problem , i've just buy a radeon x800xt at www.r9800xt.com
they said that they don't have receive my money (the money i s gone from my bank since thursday).
i'm french what can i do .
is there anyone to help me .
thanks
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g9f> the money has been taken from my bank account since 3 days.
g9f> the title of the wire transfer is the number of my order
g9f> :AS45221505810 i can provide you a copy of the document of wire transfer.
g9f> thanks
g9f> >Hello ,
>>
>>We're having problems with identifying your payment.
>>
>>Please provide as much information as possible about the payment.
>>
>>
>>Kind regards
>>Kathleen Decorte, Kathleen.Decorte@r9800xt.com
>>
>>Manager Consumer Products PR
>>Authorized Distributor
>>
>>Online Orders: http://www.r9800xt.com/order.php
>>Sales: sales@r9800xt.com
>>Technical Support: support@r9800xt.com
I contacted Trading Standards but was told that there was nothing they could do, because I did not have an address for Avnet Micro. I'll have to try the police later.
I thought something was going on last week when I couldn't find a phone number on their website. :banghead:
Kris, if you got my mail I'd like everyones crime numbers that have been reported, just to help the police out.
Yes, Have received your email Marty and I have asked the other people for their crime nos. etc to pass on to everyone. I will pass on the bank details and Trading Standards Ref & Crime Nos., that I have via email. Just for future reference the Forum moderators are not keen on us posting the confidential info like bank details.
i've have got the same problem , i've just buy a radeon x800xt at www.r9800xt.com
they said that they don't have receive my money (the money i s gone from my bank since thursday).
i'm french what can i do .
is there anyone to help me .
thanks
Hi saw your Message, email me @ "edmondskje@aol.com" and I will try to help! My French is not good so will have to email in English! You would be the 9th person who is involved by this scam
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g9f> the money has been taken from my bank account since 3 days.
g9f> the title of the wire transfer is the number of my order
g9f> :AS45221505810 i can provide you a copy of the document of wire transfer.
g9f> thanks
g9f> >Hello ,
>>
>>We're having problems with identifying your payment.
>>
>>Please provide as much information as possible about the payment.
>>
>>
>>Kind regards
>>Kathleen Decorte, Kathleen.Decorte@r9800xt.com
>>
>>Manager Consumer Products PR
>>Authorized Distributor
>>
>>Online Orders: http://www.r9800xt.com/order.php
>>Sales: sales@r9800xt.com
>>Technical Support: support@r9800xt.com
Gregori - we are trying to get as much information about this scam as possible to provide to the police.
Firstly - you must report this to your local police station and get a reference number for your report. Please sent a private mail to me and to Kris (using the email links in our profiles) - we need to know full details of the Avnet bank account into which you paid the money (the Bank name, Sort Code, Account number and Account name, and the amount that you paid.
We also need the details of your police report including name and address of police station and the crime reference number that the French Police will assign to this report. If possible please also provide a name of both the policeman you speak to / or who is dealing with your case as well as any English speaking policeman at the same station if your guy does not speak English.
Do you know of anyone else affected in France? Maybe you could post on some French websites and try to find out if there are others?
(BEFORE I START, I HAVE OBTAINED A TRADING STANDARDS REF NUMBER AND I AM POSTING THESE DETAILS TO KRIS & RONIN.)
FIRSTLY...CRIME NUMBERS!
I MADE SOME INTERESTING CALLS YESTERDAY AND HAD A LONG & IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION WITH A POLICE OFFICER WHO HEADS THE 'COMPUTER CRIME UNIT' HERE IN SCOTLAND. NOW, ALTHOUGH THEY SPECIALISE IN MORE 'SEVERELY NATURED' CRIMES THEY TOOK ALL THE INFORMATION THEY COULD FROM THIS INCIDENT AND ARE PURSUING IT FURTHER. HOWEVER, WHEN IT COMES TO 'CRIME NUMBERS', THERE SEEMS TO BE IN ISSUE WITH THE FACT THAT SEVERAL HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANNOTATED FOR THIS CASE. EVENTHOUGH DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN SEPERATE LOCATIONS HAVE REPORTED IT...IT SHOULD IN FACT BE UNDER THE SAME CRIME NUMBER. THIS THEN HELPS THE INVESTIGATION BUT ALSO DOESNT EFFECT THIER CRIME STATISTICS.
I WAS THEN ADVISED THAT IF I/YOU WERE TO WALK INTO A POLICE STATION OFF THE STREET AND PRESENT THESE FACTS TO THE FRONT DESK; THE OFFICER WOULD EITHER LOOK AT YOU IN AN ODD WAY AND NOT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO OR HE/SHE WOULD ISSUE A CRIME NUMBER AND THINGS MAY GET LOST. SO...
(AND THIS IS DIRECTLY FROM THE COMPUTER CRIME UNITS MOUTH) PRESENT YOUR MAIN LOCAL CONSTAB WITH THE EVIDENCE (ALL PRINT OUTS IF POSS OF E-MAILS AND; MORE IMPORTANTLY; OFFENDERS BANK DETAILS),ADVISE THE SAID POLICE OFFICER THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPUTER CRIME UNITS INSTRUCTIONS YOU ARE PRESENTING THESE FACTS IN ORDER THAT A TRACE CAN BE CARRIED OUT ON THE BANK ACCOUNT DETAILS SUPPLIED AND 'HOPEFULLY' THIS WILL IN TURN SECURE PERSONAL DETAILS OF THE OFFENDER(S).
WHAT WILL HAPPEN THOUGH, IS THAT (FOR EXAMPLE) IF THEY FIND THAT THE BANK ACCOUNT DETAILS YOU SUPPLY LEAD TO (EXAMPLE) A NAT-WEST ACCOUNT IN MANCHESTER, THEY WILL THEN HAVE TO PASS OVER 'ALL' HANDLING OF THE CASE TO THE RELEVENT LOCAL CONSTAB...I.E. THE GREATER MANCHESTER MET POL.
SO, AS OF YET, I HAVE NO OFFICIAL CRIME NUMBER APART FROM THOSE I HAVE QUOTED WHEN MAKING THE INITIAL REPORT. BUT THE POLICE ARE TRACKING THE LLOYDS ACCOUNT I PAID INTO AND WILL KEEP ME INFORMED PRIOR TO HANDING ALL INFO OVER TO THE RELEVANT CONSTAB. THEREFORE I PROPOSE THAT ALL INDIVIDUALS CONCERNED, POST ON THIS FORUM (WHICH MAKES IT READILY AVAILABLE TO ALL) BOTH THIER CRIME NUMBER (IF APPLICABLE) & TRADING STANDARDS REF (IF APPLICABLE). THIS CONSTANT REPORTING OF AN EVER GROWING LIST OF CRIME NUMBERS & TRADING STANDARDS REFS SHOULD THEN GET THE ATTENTION IT DESERVES.
SECONDLY...TRADING STANDARDS
I SEE THAT A FEW OF YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING TRADING STANDARDS TO HELP. WELL IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE BEING TOLD THAT YOUR LOCAL OFFICE CANNOT DO ANYTHING; ARE IN FACT ON THE RECEIVING END OF SOMEONE WHO JUST SIMPLY CANT BE BOTHERED. WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IS AS FOLLOWS:
THEY WILL TRY AND DO A COMPANY SEARCH FOR AVNET. BUT AS WE ALL NOW KNOW, AVNET DOES NOT EXIST. THEREFORE, THEY SHOULD ADVISE YOU TO KEEP ALL CORRESPONDENCES TO DATE AND THEN ISSUE (AND I KNOW THIS SOUNDS POINTLESS BUT IT S THE LAW/PROCEDURE) A LETTER (OR IN OUR CASE, AN E-MAIL) TO AVENT STATING THAT YOU ARE NOW 'MAKING TIME THE ESSENCE OF THE CONTRACT'. THIS IN TURN PROVIDES THE LEGAL FOUNDATIONS ON WHICH FURTHER INVESTIGATION CAN BE CARRIED OUT. I DO AGREE THAT TRADING STANDARDS ARE ON THE BACK FOOT WITH REGARDS TO THIS CASE BUT IF YOU DONT TRY THEN YOU DONT GET. I WAS THEN TOLD TO CONTACT THE SAME TRADING STANDARDS INDIVIDUAL AGAIN (MAKE SURE TO GET NAMES) WHEN THE TIME YOU DICTATE IN YOUR E-MAIL (FOR ME THIS WAS 7 DAYS) HAS EXPIRED. FROM THAT POINT, IT BECOMES OFFICIAL AND ALTHOUGH THEY MAY NOT DIRECTLY PIN POINT THE OFFENDER(S), THIS REGISTERING OF FACTS WILL ONLY AID THE POLICE/LEGAL BODIES WHEN TRYING TO 'HOPEFULLY' PROSECUTE.
ONCE AGAIN...
PLEASE KEEP BOTH KRIS & RONIN (FROM THIS FORUM) INFORMED OF ALL DEVELOPMENTS AND INFORMATION UPDATES; AS WELL AS POSTING ALL REFERNCE NUMBERS & CRIME NUMBERS ON THIS BOARD THUS ALLOWING ALL OTHER INDIVIDUALS TO QUOTE THIS INFO WHEN GOING TO THE POLICE/TRADING STANDARDS.
I HOPE THIS HAS BEEN OF SOME HELP AND REMEMBER THAT THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF 'ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN' BUT IS A ROUGH GUIDE...I AM SURE CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE WITH GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION.
BEST OF LUCK ALL, MY REF NUMBERS ARE BELOW.
DEAN ALDRIDGE (Deano"@dnoaldridge.freeserve.co.uk) remove the speech marks before sending e-mail.
TRADING STANDARDS: 177520, gLASGOW, Miss McCleash,
POLICE: NO NUMBER AS OF YET, COMPUTER CRIME UNIT SCOTLAND
( I WILL UPDATE THIS INFO AS SOON AS)
Just to let you all know how I have employed my procedure above. Today I spoke to PC Scott Rennie at the Computer Crome Unit Scotland, he told me that the lloyds TSb Branch into I paid monies is in fact located in NEW OLLERTON, NOTINGHAMSHIRE. I then went to my local police Station and reported the crime, offering all of the info I detail above; directing the Police Officer to the Nottinghamshire Constab. The info will then be transferred over and the investigation continued.
I to was duped by Avnet I chased them several times asking for phone numbers and addresses and got the relpy
Hello ,
I was investiagating the problem with you order.
Our shipping team sent your order to another adress, sorry for
inconvience.
New order will be sent tommorow, We've also put present for you
in the package. You'll like it very much.
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I will contact the police to see what they can do.
I paid them for a XT9800le
to the bank
sort code 20-44-86
account *******
Referance AVNET s zort
this was Barclays Islington
I phoned the bank but was unable to get any details.
I emailed the guy's, who gave good reports when bidding on ebay, but never received any reply's. Pliswood which was the seller on ebay has now been unregistered
We really want to help you but can you please not post the account numbers in the main thread please. If that kind of information needs to be shared then please use the PM function.
Can you post the number for the Scottish Computer Crime Unit so I can ring them for their English equivalents number.
Thanks
We have a the NHTCU (National High Tech Crime Unit) but they deal with very serious computer crime e.g. Kiddie porn and such like. In my dealings with them, they dont & wont bother with this type of fraud as they have to focus their limited resources on serious crime.
Also the Met Police has its own computer crime unit but again they co-ordinate & work with NHTCU so they dont deal with this type of fraud either.
The following is copied from their (Met Police) website where by they suggest you contact your local force to report & investigate this type of fraud. However you may find (from personal experience) that your local force may not have the knowledge or expertise to know what to do with hi tech/computer/telecoms fraud, so dont expect too much & be prepaired to hold their hand & explain things in words of one syllable. Hope this helps.
"Hacking and other computer crime
The Metropolitan Police Service Computer Crime Unit deals with crimes such as hacking and virus writing. They can be contacted by calling the
Crime Managment Unit on: 020 7230 1279 or 020 7230 1280.
They do not deal with internet auction fraud. If you been the victim of an internet action fraud you should report this to your local police.
The Computer Crime Unit is part of the Specialist Crime operational command unit within the Met's Specialist Operations Command. The Computer Crime Unit works together with other specialist units, both within the Metropolitan Police and at a national and international level.
Useful external links
UNIRAS (Unified Incident Reporting & Alert Scheme): - the UK Government's computer emergency response team, part of the UK's National Infrastructure Security Co-ordination Centre.
The National High Tech Crime Unit:- National unit formed in April 2001 comprising personnel from the National Crime Squad, the NCIS, and from HM Customs & Excise. It works in conjunction with computer crime units in UK police forces.
Internet Fraud Complaint Centre (IFCC):- The IFCC is an American organisation which is a partnership between the FBI and the US National White Collar Crime Center. Its mission is to address fraud committed over the Internet and it includes a reporting mechanism through which people can alert authorities to a suspected criminal or civil violation.
CERT/CC: - The CERT Co-ordination Centre at Carnegie Mellon University is a world centre for co-ordination of efforts to combat viruses, denial of service attacks and other threats to IT systems. It is funded by the US Government.
Home computer users are recommended to look at the advice given at http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
Hello Everyone - i wish i was joining this board under better circumstances - but unfortunately it's to report that i too have been stung by 'avnet micro' :banghead:
i paid £259 for an asus 9800xt le on the 5th may - still no sign of the said item
i have had similar email's to everybody else - but i also noticed that my order number matched somebody else's who posted here EXACTLY
having read everybody elses posts i can see that there is a concerted effort to track down these leeches of society
i must admit i should have read the warning signs that were obvious on the site - no contact names/numbers of any kind - and thinking about it now - the prices are quite obviously too good to be true.
I will report this to the police tomorrow and get a crime number - but i would appreciate help from the persons co-ordinating these details as to what u want sending
i can supply the bank account and sort code i paid into as i obtained a receipt from the bank on purpose just in case
it was a natwest acct and the acct name was just MK CHAN
I feel a bloody fool being duped like this - i'm usually so careful when it comes to money matters
I know this may be a case of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted, but I called the offending account holding bank today. It turns out the HSBC bank I payed my cash into was a branch in Huddersfield! I rang the branch and gave them all the account details. I made them put a note on the account saying the account may be being used for fraudulent purposes along with with my details.
Can this help in the long run, who knows... but it can't hurt. Might be worth a try.
I know this may be a case of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted, but I called the offending account holding bank today. It turns out the HSBC bank I payed my cash into was a branch in Huddersfield! I rang the branch and gave them all the account details. I made them put a note on the account saying the account may be being used for fraudulent purposes along with with my details.
Can this help in the long run, who knows... but it can't hurt. Might be worth a try.
MPA
Yes it will help, the bank, if it has good security & fraud procedures, should now flag this account as a possible fraud risk and start monitoring it closely and investigate the transactions.
marty ,
i do the same investigation with republic bank of scotland(one of the banks of AVNET,the one where i send the money) ,they are doing an investigation with all the crime report to closed the account and try to get my money back(i hope)they have an investigation unit to deal with the escrows.
my money has been taken from my account since the 3 of june.perhaps it's not to late.......i hope....
Just to let everyone know I have emailed you all with eachother's details as I have them. Do all look at Deano09's post on the advice he received from the computer crime unit and feel free to update the document yourselves!
Hello Everyone - i wish i was joining this board under better circumstances - but unfortunately it's to report that i too have been stung by 'avnet micro' :banghead:
i paid £259 for an asus 9800xt le on the 5th may - still no sign of the said item
i have had similar email's to everybody else - but i also noticed that my order number matched somebody else's who posted here EXACTLY
having read everybody elses posts i can see that there is a concerted effort to track down these leeches of society
i must admit i should have read the warning signs that were obvious on the site - no contact names/numbers of any kind - and thinking about it now - the prices are quite obviously too good to be true.
I will report this to the police tomorrow and get a crime number - but i would appreciate help from the persons co-ordinating these details as to what u want sending
i can supply the bank account and sort code i paid into as i obtained a receipt from the bank on purpose just in case
it was a natwest acct and the acct name was just MK CHAN
I feel a bloody fool being duped like this - i'm usually so careful when it comes to money matters
Steve
Sorry to hear that you have joined our ranks Steve! I know how annoyed you must feel everyone who has been duped feels the same. You can email me "edmondskje@aol.com" minus the "" and I will try to help but do look Deano09's post on his advice from the Scottish Computer Crime Unit. If you want to email me details of your "order" i.e. product, date, bank account etc I will pass on the details of the others. So that we can all keep each other informed
Oh great, there was i thinking they were just messing me about, and then i find this, i too have been stung by these bastards, has anyone got anymore info? Like a result of any kind?
Oh great, there was i thinking they were just messing me about, and then i find this, i too have been stung by these bastards, has anyone got anymore info? Like a result of any kind?
Hi,
Sorry to hear the bad news. Firstly you really need to report this to your local police and get a crime reporting ref no. Could you let Kris and myself have your details (you can send us a private mail via our forum profiles). We are compiling a list of people that have been stung so that we can hopefully get the police to follow this up. You make 10 that we are aware of so far.
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Cheers
Ok no probs
I have been on the trail of these Pirates for about 2 weeks now. Unfortunately I have only just discovered this forum!
I am simply gutted about these goings on.
I too spent £355 on an ASUS x800 xt and just like you guys, i never get a reply from them and I have never seen the goods.
What are we gonna do??????
I look forward to hearing from you all.
Dean aldridge (UK)
To make things easier for our welcomed guests, Ive added a field where you can specify a nickname to tag yourself (rather than everyone just being logged as "unregistered")
As a site admin, Im going to construct a news article on this and tidy this up to focus more on the problem in hand AND hopefully we can attract a few more people who have had this misfortune.
The more who report this crappy and submit information to you guys and the police, the more power you have to hopefully bring this "merchants" down.
First thing you have to do is report this to 1/Trading Standards 2/Police. Once you have done both of them we should all get together and provide as many report numbers as possible then re-update the people you told. Maybe that way they will move quicker.
I'm not sure if that's you Kris (Aviation) but if its not then I suggest you send a brief e-mail to Kris @ the following address. I am in contact with himand he is one step ahead of the game; trying to co-ordinate all different case information.
Heres the address and good luck.
EdmondsKJE"@aol.com (REMOVE THE SPEECH MARKS WHEN SENDING; THIS IS USED TO AVOIS SPAM)
Thanks Shorty,
Will you start a new forum thread regarding this Avnet matter and move our posts from this thread to the new one? It is much appreciated that those of us who are affected can have somewhere to discuss this and co-ordinate our actions.
Anyone reading this who has been taken in my Avnet should register with this forum and provide us with details of what happened. It is important to inform the police so that there are as many crime reports as possible. This should hopefully increase the likelihood of the police putting some efforts into tracking the guilty party down.
Dean - have you reported this to the police? Can you make sure Kris and / or I have details such as your Crime Report Number and police station at which reported. It would also be useful to have details of the bank account into which you paid the money (you can private mail this to us as I understand that posting those details on here might cause problems for the moderators). Thanks.
they said that they don't have receive my money (the money i s gone from my bank since thursday).
i'm french what can i do .
is there anyone to help me .
thanks
Please send the full name & bank of the money sender.
Kind regards
Kathleen Decorte, Kathleen.Decorte@r9800xt.com
Manager Consumer Products PR
Authorized Distributor
Online Orders: http://www.r9800xt.com/order.php
Sales: sales@r9800xt.com
Technical Support: support@r9800xt.com
©2003
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g9f> the money has been taken from my bank account since 3 days.
g9f> the title of the wire transfer is the number of my order
g9f> :AS45221505810 i can provide you a copy of the document of wire transfer.
g9f> thanks
g9f> >Hello ,
>>
>>We're having problems with identifying your payment.
>>
>>Please provide as much information as possible about the payment.
>>
>>
>>Kind regards
>>Kathleen Decorte, Kathleen.Decorte@r9800xt.com
>>
>>Manager Consumer Products PR
>>Authorized Distributor
>>
>>Online Orders: http://www.r9800xt.com/order.php
>>Sales: sales@r9800xt.com
>>Technical Support: support@r9800xt.com
Yep, same old story here with me as well. I got ripped of for an x800 Pro from these guys. The account I payed into was:
Bank: HSBC
Sort Code: 40-25-10
Account No: *********
Account Name: AVNET M Atkinson
I contacted Trading Standards but was told that there was nothing they could do, because I did not have an address for Avnet Micro. I'll have to try the police later.
I thought something was going on last week when I couldn't find a phone number on their website. :banghead:
Kris, if you got my mail I'd like everyones crime numbers that have been reported, just to help the police out.
MPA
Hi saw your Message, email me @ "edmondskje@aol.com" and I will try to help! My French is not good so will have to email in English! You would be the 9th person who is involved by this scam
Gregori - we are trying to get as much information about this scam as possible to provide to the police.
Firstly - you must report this to your local police station and get a reference number for your report. Please sent a private mail to me and to Kris (using the email links in our profiles) - we need to know full details of the Avnet bank account into which you paid the money (the Bank name, Sort Code, Account number and Account name, and the amount that you paid.
We also need the details of your police report including name and address of police station and the crime reference number that the French Police will assign to this report. If possible please also provide a name of both the policeman you speak to / or who is dealing with your case as well as any English speaking policeman at the same station if your guy does not speak English.
Do you know of anyone else affected in France? Maybe you could post on some French websites and try to find out if there are others?
Thanks.
***********PLEASE READ**********************
(BEFORE I START, I HAVE OBTAINED A TRADING STANDARDS REF NUMBER AND I AM POSTING THESE DETAILS TO KRIS & RONIN.)
FIRSTLY...CRIME NUMBERS!
I MADE SOME INTERESTING CALLS YESTERDAY AND HAD A LONG & IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION WITH A POLICE OFFICER WHO HEADS THE 'COMPUTER CRIME UNIT' HERE IN SCOTLAND. NOW, ALTHOUGH THEY SPECIALISE IN MORE 'SEVERELY NATURED' CRIMES THEY TOOK ALL THE INFORMATION THEY COULD FROM THIS INCIDENT AND ARE PURSUING IT FURTHER. HOWEVER, WHEN IT COMES TO 'CRIME NUMBERS', THERE SEEMS TO BE IN ISSUE WITH THE FACT THAT SEVERAL HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANNOTATED FOR THIS CASE. EVENTHOUGH DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN SEPERATE LOCATIONS HAVE REPORTED IT...IT SHOULD IN FACT BE UNDER THE SAME CRIME NUMBER. THIS THEN HELPS THE INVESTIGATION BUT ALSO DOESNT EFFECT THIER CRIME STATISTICS.
I WAS THEN ADVISED THAT IF I/YOU WERE TO WALK INTO A POLICE STATION OFF THE STREET AND PRESENT THESE FACTS TO THE FRONT DESK; THE OFFICER WOULD EITHER LOOK AT YOU IN AN ODD WAY AND NOT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO OR HE/SHE WOULD ISSUE A CRIME NUMBER AND THINGS MAY GET LOST. SO...
(AND THIS IS DIRECTLY FROM THE COMPUTER CRIME UNITS MOUTH) PRESENT YOUR MAIN LOCAL CONSTAB WITH THE EVIDENCE (ALL PRINT OUTS IF POSS OF E-MAILS AND; MORE IMPORTANTLY; OFFENDERS BANK DETAILS),ADVISE THE SAID POLICE OFFICER THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPUTER CRIME UNITS INSTRUCTIONS YOU ARE PRESENTING THESE FACTS IN ORDER THAT A TRACE CAN BE CARRIED OUT ON THE BANK ACCOUNT DETAILS SUPPLIED AND 'HOPEFULLY' THIS WILL IN TURN SECURE PERSONAL DETAILS OF THE OFFENDER(S).
WHAT WILL HAPPEN THOUGH, IS THAT (FOR EXAMPLE) IF THEY FIND THAT THE BANK ACCOUNT DETAILS YOU SUPPLY LEAD TO (EXAMPLE) A NAT-WEST ACCOUNT IN MANCHESTER, THEY WILL THEN HAVE TO PASS OVER 'ALL' HANDLING OF THE CASE TO THE RELEVENT LOCAL CONSTAB...I.E. THE GREATER MANCHESTER MET POL.
SO, AS OF YET, I HAVE NO OFFICIAL CRIME NUMBER APART FROM THOSE I HAVE QUOTED WHEN MAKING THE INITIAL REPORT. BUT THE POLICE ARE TRACKING THE LLOYDS ACCOUNT I PAID INTO AND WILL KEEP ME INFORMED PRIOR TO HANDING ALL INFO OVER TO THE RELEVANT CONSTAB. THEREFORE I PROPOSE THAT ALL INDIVIDUALS CONCERNED, POST ON THIS FORUM (WHICH MAKES IT READILY AVAILABLE TO ALL) BOTH THIER CRIME NUMBER (IF APPLICABLE) & TRADING STANDARDS REF (IF APPLICABLE). THIS CONSTANT REPORTING OF AN EVER GROWING LIST OF CRIME NUMBERS & TRADING STANDARDS REFS SHOULD THEN GET THE ATTENTION IT DESERVES.
SECONDLY...TRADING STANDARDS
I SEE THAT A FEW OF YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING TRADING STANDARDS TO HELP. WELL IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE BEING TOLD THAT YOUR LOCAL OFFICE CANNOT DO ANYTHING; ARE IN FACT ON THE RECEIVING END OF SOMEONE WHO JUST SIMPLY CANT BE BOTHERED. WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IS AS FOLLOWS:
THEY WILL TRY AND DO A COMPANY SEARCH FOR AVNET. BUT AS WE ALL NOW KNOW, AVNET DOES NOT EXIST. THEREFORE, THEY SHOULD ADVISE YOU TO KEEP ALL CORRESPONDENCES TO DATE AND THEN ISSUE (AND I KNOW THIS SOUNDS POINTLESS BUT IT S THE LAW/PROCEDURE) A LETTER (OR IN OUR CASE, AN E-MAIL) TO AVENT STATING THAT YOU ARE NOW 'MAKING TIME THE ESSENCE OF THE CONTRACT'. THIS IN TURN PROVIDES THE LEGAL FOUNDATIONS ON WHICH FURTHER INVESTIGATION CAN BE CARRIED OUT. I DO AGREE THAT TRADING STANDARDS ARE ON THE BACK FOOT WITH REGARDS TO THIS CASE BUT IF YOU DONT TRY THEN YOU DONT GET. I WAS THEN TOLD TO CONTACT THE SAME TRADING STANDARDS INDIVIDUAL AGAIN (MAKE SURE TO GET NAMES) WHEN THE TIME YOU DICTATE IN YOUR E-MAIL (FOR ME THIS WAS 7 DAYS) HAS EXPIRED. FROM THAT POINT, IT BECOMES OFFICIAL AND ALTHOUGH THEY MAY NOT DIRECTLY PIN POINT THE OFFENDER(S), THIS REGISTERING OF FACTS WILL ONLY AID THE POLICE/LEGAL BODIES WHEN TRYING TO 'HOPEFULLY' PROSECUTE.
ONCE AGAIN...
PLEASE KEEP BOTH KRIS & RONIN (FROM THIS FORUM) INFORMED OF ALL DEVELOPMENTS AND INFORMATION UPDATES; AS WELL AS POSTING ALL REFERNCE NUMBERS & CRIME NUMBERS ON THIS BOARD THUS ALLOWING ALL OTHER INDIVIDUALS TO QUOTE THIS INFO WHEN GOING TO THE POLICE/TRADING STANDARDS.
I HOPE THIS HAS BEEN OF SOME HELP AND REMEMBER THAT THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF 'ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN' BUT IS A ROUGH GUIDE...I AM SURE CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE WITH GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION.
BEST OF LUCK ALL, MY REF NUMBERS ARE BELOW.
DEAN ALDRIDGE (Deano"@dnoaldridge.freeserve.co.uk) remove the speech marks before sending e-mail.
TRADING STANDARDS: 177520, gLASGOW, Miss McCleash,
POLICE: NO NUMBER AS OF YET, COMPUTER CRIME UNIT SCOTLAND
( I WILL UPDATE THIS INFO AS SOON AS)
Just to let you all know how I have employed my procedure above. Today I spoke to PC Scott Rennie at the Computer Crome Unit Scotland, he told me that the lloyds TSb Branch into I paid monies is in fact located in NEW OLLERTON, NOTINGHAMSHIRE. I then went to my local police Station and reported the crime, offering all of the info I detail above; directing the Police Officer to the Nottinghamshire Constab. The info will then be transferred over and the investigation continued.
Dean Aldridge
Hello ,
I was investiagating the problem with you order.
Our shipping team sent your order to another adress, sorry for
inconvience.
New order will be sent tommorow, We've also put present for you
in the package. You'll like it very much.
Kind regards
Kathleen Decorte, Kathleen.Decorte@r9800xt.com
Manager Consumer Products PR
Authorized Distributor
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Sales: sales@r9800xt.com
Technical Support: support@r9800xt.com
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I will contact the police to see what they can do.
I paid them for a XT9800le
to the bank
sort code 20-44-86
account *******
Referance AVNET s zort
this was Barclays Islington
I phoned the bank but was unable to get any details.
I emailed the guy's, who gave good reports when bidding on ebay, but never received any reply's. Pliswood which was the seller on ebay has now been unregistered
I will keep you posted
Can you post the number for the Scottish Computer Crime Unit so I can ring them for their English equivalents number.
Thanks
We really want to help you but can you please not post the account numbers in the main thread please. If that kind of information needs to be shared then please use the PM function.
We have a the NHTCU (National High Tech Crime Unit) but they deal with very serious computer crime e.g. Kiddie porn and such like. In my dealings with them, they dont & wont bother with this type of fraud as they have to focus their limited resources on serious crime.
Also the Met Police has its own computer crime unit but again they co-ordinate & work with NHTCU so they dont deal with this type of fraud either.
The following is copied from their (Met Police) website where by they suggest you contact your local force to report & investigate this type of fraud. However you may find (from personal experience) that your local force may not have the knowledge or expertise to know what to do with hi tech/computer/telecoms fraud, so dont expect too much & be prepaired to hold their hand & explain things in words of one syllable. Hope this helps.
"Hacking and other computer crime
The Metropolitan Police Service Computer Crime Unit deals with crimes such as hacking and virus writing. They can be contacted by calling the
Crime Managment Unit on: 020 7230 1279 or 020 7230 1280.
They do not deal with internet auction fraud. If you been the victim of an internet action fraud you should report this to your local police.
The Computer Crime Unit is part of the Specialist Crime operational command unit within the Met's Specialist Operations Command. The Computer Crime Unit works together with other specialist units, both within the Metropolitan Police and at a national and international level.
Useful external links
UNIRAS (Unified Incident Reporting & Alert Scheme): - the UK Government's computer emergency response team, part of the UK's National Infrastructure Security Co-ordination Centre.
The National High Tech Crime Unit:- National unit formed in April 2001 comprising personnel from the National Crime Squad, the NCIS, and from HM Customs & Excise. It works in conjunction with computer crime units in UK police forces.
Internet Fraud Complaint Centre (IFCC):- The IFCC is an American organisation which is a partnership between the FBI and the US National White Collar Crime Center. Its mission is to address fraud committed over the Internet and it includes a reporting mechanism through which people can alert authorities to a suspected criminal or civil violation.
CERT/CC: - The CERT Co-ordination Centre at Carnegie Mellon University is a world centre for co-ordination of efforts to combat viruses, denial of service attacks and other threats to IT systems. It is funded by the US Government.
Home computer users are recommended to look at the advice given at http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
i paid £259 for an asus 9800xt le on the 5th may - still no sign of the said item
i have had similar email's to everybody else - but i also noticed that my order number matched somebody else's who posted here EXACTLY
having read everybody elses posts i can see that there is a concerted effort to track down these leeches of society
i must admit i should have read the warning signs that were obvious on the site - no contact names/numbers of any kind - and thinking about it now - the prices are quite obviously too good to be true.
I will report this to the police tomorrow and get a crime number - but i would appreciate help from the persons co-ordinating these details as to what u want sending
i can supply the bank account and sort code i paid into as i obtained a receipt from the bank on purpose just in case
it was a natwest acct and the acct name was just MK CHAN
I feel a bloody fool being duped like this - i'm usually so careful when it comes to money matters
Steve
I know this may be a case of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted, but I called the offending account holding bank today. It turns out the HSBC bank I payed my cash into was a branch in Huddersfield! I rang the branch and gave them all the account details. I made them put a note on the account saying the account may be being used for fraudulent purposes along with with my details.
Can this help in the long run, who knows... but it can't hurt. Might be worth a try.
MPA
Yes it will help, the bank, if it has good security & fraud procedures, should now flag this account as a possible fraud risk and start monitoring it closely and investigate the transactions.
i do the same investigation with republic bank of scotland(one of the banks of AVNET,the one where i send the money) ,they are doing an investigation with all the crime report to closed the account and try to get my money back(i hope)they have an investigation unit to deal with the escrows.
my money has been taken from my account since the 3 of june.perhaps it's not to late.......i hope....
Sorry to hear that you have joined our ranks Steve! I know how annoyed you must feel everyone who has been duped feels the same. You can email me "edmondskje@aol.com" minus the "" and I will try to help but do look Deano09's post on his advice from the Scottish Computer Crime Unit. If you want to email me details of your "order" i.e. product, date, bank account etc I will pass on the details of the others. So that we can all keep each other informed
Hi,
Sorry to hear the bad news. Firstly you really need to report this to your local police and get a crime reporting ref no. Could you let Kris and myself have your details (you can send us a private mail via our forum profiles). We are compiling a list of people that have been stung so that we can hopefully get the police to follow this up. You make 10 that we are aware of so far.
Thanks