It was brought to my attention some of you are waste people time, (deano09)
I just worte this once so its going to be short this time as it logged me out!!!
I sell the cards, there not here in the UK till 29th of june so you may not havebeen scammed, the chances are that there delaying and using your money for other things!
if you think youve been scammed, then call crime stoppers of what ever is local and ask for the iternet crime squad, if you have an email from the person DONT delete it, as the police will need the headers off it to chase the IP and the computer account user to thier place of business or home..
we are getting the cards in but cant set a absolute date, but its the 2-4th july that they arrive in your hands its a nice price as well! there are plenty of companies selling pre-orders as its well known that theres no cards available, along with the 6800U, which is delayed because NVid are slow at sending the chips (GPU) needed to finish off the cards.. next week, weekend they should be about..
my site dealling with these keep its self upto date, as if you look its so prity but practicle to keep buyers upto date...
deno09 was looking for scammers, and came to my site, then accused me of scamming as i couldnt accept a pament by credit card, (after being a victim of an atempted scam) my back as messed up the account and then again for good measure, so i have to use a personal account to get hardware /software etc. its a A$$ but ive had to work with it for a few weeks now, not idea, but with other payment method i use it works out cheaper to use the other methords, there old fashioned but still work!!
(direct transfer)
i do business in a layed back manner, and its not unlikly that you could get a mail back like this post, as how realy cares about formallities??
we are a training company, hence the url, www.gloucestertraining.no-ip.com, we do hardware as a side line, but build computers and pro systems, ahh look at the site, cant be bothers to write it all..
we are partners with a USA company called www.powerofc3.com so some time we have the upper hand on goods, and low prices not only do we get things a little early,
if you need to know how to use the header to get an IP then goto the site and mail me, but get to the bank and stop payment. then goto the police. and give then the full header (should be in help file)
beieve me big name companies are scamming, i got one who was selling X800pro for 21day del for £395 and 5 days for £469, beat that...
i got an order for 6800U it was a five day wait, so yes i orderd, ten days later still waiting! they havent taken the money though.. but its still saying five days on there site., .,
anyway, Im registired business, and been trading for 12 years, (two months on line) cause im lazy ) but you'll get stuff form me or a full refund! wooo, how ever im am aware of scammers and i do tend to delay on any bank payments so that i dont get left with stuff i dont want and or you get what you want and then get the maney back, which is what some one try to me the other week.. hence bank probelms.
I didnt send anything, or draw any money but the bank froze my account because i put so much money in one go into my account, great hey,., halifax gave me extra.. 13 days wait, but that s just the cheque to clear then they messed it up some more, so its almost a month,... bank with halfax,,, NO.. getting compensation thought!
It was brought to my attention some of you are waste people time, (deano09)
I just worte this once so its going to be short this time as it logged me out!!!
I sell the cards, there not here in the UK till 29th of june so you may not havebeen scammed, the chances are that there delaying and using your money for other things!
if you think youve been scammed, then call crime stoppers of what ever is local and ask for the iternet crime squad, if you have an email from the person DONT delete it, as the police will need the headers off it to chase the IP and the computer account user to thier place of business or home..
we are getting the cards in but cant set a absolute date, but its the 2-4th july that they arrive in your hands its a nice price as well! there are plenty of companies selling pre-orders as its well known that theres no cards available, along with the 6800U, which is delayed because NVid are slow at sending the chips (GPU) needed to finish off the cards.. next week, weekend they should be about..
my site dealling with these keep its self upto date, as if you look its so prity but practicle to keep buyers upto date...
deno09 was looking for scammers, and came to my site, then accused me of scamming as i couldnt accept a pament by credit card, (after being a victim of an atempted scam) my back as messed up the account and then again for good measure, so i have to use a personal account to get hardware /software etc. its a A$$ but ive had to work with it for a few weeks now, not idea, but with other payment method i use it works out cheaper to use the other methords, there old fashioned but still work!!
(direct transfer)
i do business in a layed back manner, and its not unlikly that you could get a mail back like this post, as how realy cares about formallities??
we are a training company, hence the url, www.gloucestertraining.no-ip.com, we do hardware as a side line, but build computers and pro systems, ahh look at the site, cant be bothers to write it all..
we are partners with a USA company called www.powerofc3.com so some time we have the upper hand on goods, and low prices not only do we get things a little early,
if you need to know how to use the header to get an IP then goto the site and mail me, but get to the bank and stop payment. then goto the police. and give then the full header (should be in help file)
beieve me big name companies are scamming, i got one who was selling X800pro for 21day del for £395 and 5 days for £469, beat that...
i got an order for 6800U it was a five day wait, so yes i orderd, ten days later still waiting! they havent taken the money though.. but its still saying five days on there site., .,
anyway, Im registired business, and been trading for 12 years, (two months on line) cause im lazy ) but you'll get stuff form me or a full refund! wooo, how ever im am aware of scammers and i do tend to delay on any bank payments so that i dont get left with stuff i dont want and or you get what you want and then get the maney back, which is what some one try to me the other week.. hence bank probelms.
I didnt send anything, or draw any money but the bank froze my account because i put so much money in one go into my account, great hey,., halifax gave me extra.. 13 days wait, but that s just the cheque to clear then they messed it up some more, so its almost a month,... bank with halfax,,, NO.. getting compensation thought!
Thanks for your post. I am sure that you will agree that it is better to be cautious than sorry when buying in-line and therefore any doubts expressed about the legitimacy of your offers were made in order to protect the buyer and ensure that they take adequate steps in verifying who and where they are buying from.
I personally have no reason to doubt the ligitamacy of your business, however I would offer you a well meant tip by saying you will have more credibility if you improve the spelling, navigability, and layout of your web site as well as finding a solution to the online credit card payment availability.
I do know about on-line payments, and spelling has all been dealt with, un fortunately, the site is correctly spelt and it is the web caches that are out of date.
Online payments are a funny thing, as this adds about 4% to a sale, and then theres other charges to add in, as the cost is around £200 per year, plus 3.25 per week plus a £1.00 per transaction and the 4%, which brings up the prices, which isnt very good when people who are local can pay the price on the site.. and we do cash/cheque on delivery, which works out at £6.00 inc. so not a bad charge to have.
But with banking charges, the cost effective, workings dont real work out well for both parties.
as with larger items, this could mean an added £360.
Ye' old way are simple, "wire" the money into the accout get the good, no charges and no "extra to pay" your happy im happy..
I am looking into site navagation, the hardware site is easy to use, and the computers are fairly straight forward, as the site offers direct search access, it is common for people to hit any page of the site with the information or goods they requier.
It been 7 years since i have worked on website, and with 6K hits in the first week t'was stupid as the site wassnt even ready, the training part has only been placed on a week ago. as you will note: the site has 3 sections and 3 looks. hardware/ software. computers, and support, consultancy, repairs..
I want to keep most of it simple and to use.
for exsample search X800xt gloucester, and you will find a link to .../today/index.html which is a page with the lastest graphics card, its not smart looking, but it give the information you need.. however, you may find a link to ../hardware/page12.html which is the hardware section. but then going onto computers, .../tec/index.html this looks different all together. but still links off to a white page with information on them, I will get around to sorting this out, but havent looked into it as im busy doing other things.
Hardware is good but not what i want to be doing, as computer support and repairs, we need to know where we can get stuff from if we have to fix things and need replacement.. as we also build computer system the parts help so its just a side line not really part of what we are going for as a main stead of the business.
GETTING BACK TO PAYMENTS AND BUYING
If your in doubt about a business, ask them for their registration number and or VAT number. (some business wont be VAT registired but very few are not)
go to your local trading stadards or business link, and they will be able to tell you if a business is real, if there not registired then dont buy from them. its a whoel different ball game when buying from a person, you will find info at www.dts.gov.uk, where there discription has to be correct, theres link on the ordering page of my site .
any way back to work..
sory about the site.. its a work in progress, Ive been online for a few weeks, still working on it..
In reply to the above posts about Avnet Micro Ltd and its website r9800xt.com. Firstly I would like to say that I am not commenting on the gloucestertraining website.
1) ALL UK Companies have to be registered at www.companieshouse.gov.uk before you ask "Ltd" implies they are incorporated under the Companies Act 1985 and to exist would have to be registered there!
2) The Website now seems to have disappeared!
3) Deano09, like the rest of us has now been made highly sensitive to the potential of being scammed and with the only payment method being bank transfer (how we were scammed!) he was just putting us on alert. Most people here are on the lookout for a new graphics card and he had people's best interests at heart. If that has offended gloucestertraining then I am sorry but you would not believe how many times I have heard from Trading Standards and The Police that the only safe way of paying is by CREDIT CARD!! The reason being the Consumer Credit Act and the protection that it affords.
For the others sorry I have not been in contact I am in the middle of my exams!!! I will be emailing you individually when I have time to update!
It is not just the case of Avnet micro Ltd's site not being there anymore, it is the case that if you now goto Asus.co.uk a poppup appears, this now warns you about Avnet Micro Ltd being a FRAUDULANT COMPANY, its a shame this was not found out before i placed my order, also, i did not order one of the brand new cards, i only ordered an Asus V9980 Geforce FX5950 Ultra, these people are sick, and if the law allowed i would personally deal with it my way !!!
A credit card payment is not secure.,
here is the reasons.
first off the website. it is easy to script in the "seruce connection" pad lock.
it take less than 2 minutes to decyphert 128 bit encription.
I could have easly said or placed a page on my site to take credit card details looking like a "real secure payment site" when if fact you would have sent your details.
But instead of doing that, where i could have taken the payments, Im honest so i didnt.
your card is ONLY protected to either a limit OR not covered, you will have to check with your bank for details on cover against fraud when buying on the interenet. (very few cards do so)
this must really make you want to buy on line after reading this.. i think not!
I did offer payment by paypal and cheque, not just a direct payment option.
Yes ltd company have to registir, but other companys dont.
the reason for this is that a limited company is required to have a secertary, and the business can only be sued to the value of the company, giving personal protection to thoses who own and run it. if they go bust or declair bankruptcy, thats it you can get nothing. (i think thats what happend to power house customers when they went under, even thought they were taking money that day and not sendding out goods.. AKA ripping people off)
When is this guy from GLOUSCESTERTRAINING going to drop it & let it go?
IF WE WANT TO BUY FROM YOU, IN THE MANNER YOU PRESCRIBE, THEN I'M SURE THOSE BIG ENOUGH & BOLD ENOUGH WILL DO SO...
Stop sending me e-mails about the credibility of your business.
Its as if you're trying to prove something here?
"We all believe that you are genuine...and wish you well in your business"
However, after 3 e-mails telling me how 'your bank' messed things up also followed by a continuous effort to promote direct transfer payment; I have arrived at the conclusion that (for security reasons) I will not be using your services.
I’m confident that you will amend the payment situation and sort out the ‘issues’ you currently have with the bank. As a recommendation though; don’t divulge your current banking issues with potential customers…it puts them off!
Fianlly, I am far from being a 'Time Waster', or as you put it "a waste people time"...
I simply have hard earned money which I'm trying to spend in the most secure and beneficial way. So ditch the attitude of 'suing for slander' & 'taking liable action' and concentrate your efforts on matters that are far more important.
A credit card payment is not secure.,
here is the reasons.
first off the website. it is easy to script in the "seruce connection" pad lock.
it take less than 2 minutes to decyphert 128 bit encription.
I could have easly said or placed a page on my site to take credit card details looking like a "real secure payment site" when if fact you would have sent your details.
But instead of doing that, where i could have taken the payments, Im honest so i didnt.
your card is ONLY protected to either a limit OR not covered, you will have to check with your bank for details on cover against fraud when buying on the interenet. (very few cards do so)
this must really make you want to buy on line after reading this.. i think not!
I did offer payment by paypal and cheque, not just a direct payment option.
Yes ltd company have to registir, but other companys dont.
the reason for this is that a limited company is required to have a secertary, and the business can only be sued to the value of the company, giving personal protection to thoses who own and run it. if they go bust or declair bankruptcy, thats it you can get nothing. (i think thats what happend to power house customers when they went under, even thought they were taking money that day and not sendding out goods.. AKA ripping people off)
Hi with regards to a credit card payment not being secure you may well be right but in the situation of a company going bust or failing to deliver a person paying by credit card has a claim against the company and the credit card issuer. Yes, you are right there are limits anything between £100-£30,000, which I think will cover most things! These limits are not set by an individual bank and apply only to credit cards BUT THEY DO APPLY TO ALL. If you still have any doubts look up s.75 Consumer Credit Act 1974 or this link to the FSA http://www.fsa.gov.uk/consumer/financial_planning/credit_debt/mn_protection.html
If the Powerhouse customers had paid by credit card they could have their money back or would have had their goods delivered. This happened to relatives of my years ago and they received their money. I imagine it works by the Credit Card company giving you your money and you subrogating your rights against the company concerned.
As for credit card fraud online, I have bought in excess of 50 items online via a secure payment and have never had an issue (touch wood), the one time I paid by bank transfer I lost all my money that in itself should tell you! I have pre-ordered my card from Chillblast, they may be more expensive but their customers say they are good and that's all that matters now!
As for "limited company" yes they do have to register the only other company is a company limited by guarantee everyone else is either a soletrader or partnership! The point was Avnet Micro LTD implies they are a limited company and should be registered, as they are not registered they are not a legitimate company!
i have been ripped off as well by Avnet, i am annoyed at myself for being so careless as I am usually very careful with regards to bying online but I was caught out by the positive feedback on ebay. I have been to the police and they said they would look into it but as I was only 1 customer affected they said it was likely I would lose my money as their telecommunications fraud department would only be able track down major internet fraud that was proved to be deception. I will now go back to the police to see what they have to say. If anyone has got any more details can you email me on jamescooke.nospam@blueyonder.co.uk(without the .nospam). TIA
Short-Media is NOT an advertising site. Please desist from diluting the content of this newspost and thread with your advertising. If you wish to advertise your services and wares, then please contact one of the site owners to discuss this further. Otherwise, unless you have anything to add to the subject in hand (ie.. Avnet Micro LTD), then please don't respond.
I am assuming you are not an employee or an owner/partner of Avnet. If you are, Id suggest contacting and explaining your actions in the above mentioned matters.
If you are NOT, then with all due respect.. please STOP posting regarding your site/shop and services. We are not here to provide free advertising. Short-Media provides a platform for all types of PC user, to resolve and discuss many different issues but we do not appreciate members hassling members. The original thread has moved on from it's original content (the release of the aforementioned cards) onto a more strong subject (the conduct and alleged fraud). That is where this subject should remain. NOT for discussing how your service is better or more robust/trustworthy than any other.
I hope this is understood clearly. Any issues, please feel free to private message me or send me an email as appropriate.
To the assorted other posters, carry on and Im still hoping for some resolve for you all.
i have been ripped off as well by Avnet, i am annoyed at myself for being so careless as I am usually very careful with regards to bying online but I was caught out by the positive feedback on ebay. I have been to the police and they said they would look into it but as I was only 1 customer affected they said it was likely I would lose my money as their telecommunications fraud department would only be able track down major internet fraud that was proved to be deception. I will now go back to the police to see what they have to say. If anyone has got any more details can you email me on jamescooke.nospam@blueyonder.co.uk. (without the .nospam) TIA
Sorry to hear you bad luck.. yet another.
I would suggest scanning this thread for the other email addys of the various other members and guests who have posted and been defrauded.
They have a crime number... and more information than anyone
Plus, its worth noting that ASUS in the UK have publicly disowned the two websites in question that were offering this product. Id suggest talking to them as well and getting more feedback
avent micros, was a site trying to take business from advent mircos, if i remeber correcty, but this was years ago.
its hard to find info, on companies. I bought off a company i never head of, but they had a forum so i founf the email address of one of the people and contacted them about the company just to check there "real".
but someone said, that ebay reviews or feedback was good...
how hard is it to set up accounts in different names and then fake it? not hard enought! its like forums, they can be faked as well, so your still none the wiser..
and deno09, when you going to drop it, i have been getting mail form you for some time, so why the hell would i keep sending you emails, get a life! I only reply to the mails you have sent! the fact that i do say about the bank issues, etc, shows some call for honesty on my part.
AS for card protection..
There is a bankers code of conduct, made by the banker guild or what ever, but its not a law or anything they have to stand by. I was talking to a lawer about it the other week because of my bank issue, and he said that they can do what they want.
Just so you know, cheques can be returned upto 6 months after sending them, so you can get your money back if you had paid by cheque instead of direct transfer, but there must be some form of protection, even if it was by diret debit which is fully covered.
when you get down to it, if there money to be made there is always a scam.
with the amount of foreign people in the UK, they have been ripping off people for years in there country using methords we havent really seen here, look for odd names and accents when phoning them.. not say that a mark jones@buyfrome.com, is a real person or company, but public mail address should be checked. like yahoo, freeserver etc. and not used to make purchases. (BIG WARNING!) I have found that there using email companies all over the world to make the mail seam genuine, so have a look and search the net for the mail address's in name, if they give an address also search that, with "address" (speachmarks) as this will give you an exsact match and hope fully give that information which will confirm weather they are a good or bad company.
Fake it yourself, call them saying your a sales man from GCS selling the items you want to buy, if they say they dont buy them ..... then there a scam. stuff like that. I get a few scammers with there URL's and matching email address.
As i have said.
The company may well be giveing you the cards, as there not in the UK till the 29Th, then they may send it. and the same goes for the 6800 ultras and GT
Item Name: ASUS RADEON 9800XT.
Price: £264.00 (inc P&P).
On 17th May I ordered the following item;
Item Name: ASUS RADEON X800XT
Price: £355.00 (inc P&P).
Bank details are (for both):
Cahoot bank (Abbey National)
09-06-40
1******8
AVNET A Walker
Total Fraud Amount: £619.00.
I also discovered that their website has been taken down.
I emailed the web host and they informed me that a stolen
credit card had been used to pay for the web hosting!
I came across the website via Ebay too. Have you got an
URL of their listings/username?
To my knowledge, none of the posters here have yet to have any real luck getting any money back.
One of our members, Kris (who has posted in this thread countless times) has been communicating as many reports as possible, in the hopes of more investigation.. his email address has been published here several times:
I was trying to get the money back through my bank but they no longer want to
know since a bill payment is trusted as once sent it can't be amended.
I will need to visit the Police again to explain the new situation and obtain relevant
crime codes. I am glad that I'm not alone on this one.
Did you notice on Ebay listings a postcode of BT7 3AE? Perhaps we could
use this to our advantage?
I have emailed some of the Ebay accounts on his feedback. However, some are
coming back with bounced emails. It looks like fake ebay accounts may have
been created to give the main seller positive fake feedback, thus fooling us that
he is genuine and then us getting conned by paying him! Ah!
Comments
I just worte this once so its going to be short this time as it logged me out!!!
I sell the cards, there not here in the UK till 29th of june so you may not havebeen scammed, the chances are that there delaying and using your money for other things!
if you think youve been scammed, then call crime stoppers of what ever is local and ask for the iternet crime squad, if you have an email from the person DONT delete it, as the police will need the headers off it to chase the IP and the computer account user to thier place of business or home..
we are getting the cards in but cant set a absolute date, but its the 2-4th july that they arrive in your hands
my site dealling with these keep its self upto date, as if you look its so prity but practicle to keep buyers upto date...
deno09 was looking for scammers, and came to my site, then accused me of scamming as i couldnt accept a pament by credit card, (after being a victim of an atempted scam) my back as messed up the account and then again for good measure, so i have to use a personal account to get hardware /software etc. its a A$$ but ive had to work with it for a few weeks now, not idea, but with other payment method i use it works out cheaper to use the other methords, there old fashioned but still work!!
(direct transfer)
i do business in a layed back manner, and its not unlikly that you could get a mail back like this post, as how realy cares about formallities??
we are a training company, hence the url, www.gloucestertraining.no-ip.com, we do hardware as a side line, but build computers and pro systems, ahh look at the site, cant be bothers to write it all..
we are partners with a USA company called www.powerofc3.com so some time we have the upper hand on goods, and low prices
if you need to know how to use the header to get an IP then goto the site and mail me, but get to the bank and stop payment. then goto the police. and give then the full header (should be in help file)
beieve me big name companies are scamming, i got one who was selling X800pro for 21day del for £395 and 5 days for £469, beat that...
i got an order for 6800U it was a five day wait, so yes i orderd, ten days later still waiting! they havent taken the money though.. but its still saying five days on there site., .,
anyway, Im registired business, and been trading for 12 years, (two months on line) cause im lazy ) but you'll get stuff form me or a full refund! wooo, how ever im am aware of scammers and i do tend to delay on any bank payments so that i dont get left with stuff i dont want and or you get what you want and then get the maney back, which is what some one try to me the other week.. hence bank probelms.
I didnt send anything, or draw any money but the bank froze my account because i put so much money in one go into my account, great hey,., halifax gave me extra.. 13 days wait, but that s just the cheque to clear then they messed it up some more, so its almost a month,... bank with halfax,,, NO.. getting compensation thought!
Thanks for your post. I am sure that you will agree that it is better to be cautious than sorry when buying in-line and therefore any doubts expressed about the legitimacy of your offers were made in order to protect the buyer and ensure that they take adequate steps in verifying who and where they are buying from.
I personally have no reason to doubt the ligitamacy of your business, however I would offer you a well meant tip by saying you will have more credibility if you improve the spelling, navigability, and layout of your web site as well as finding a solution to the online credit card payment availability.
Regards
Online payments are a funny thing, as this adds about 4% to a sale, and then theres other charges to add in, as the cost is around £200 per year, plus 3.25 per week plus a £1.00 per transaction and the 4%, which brings up the prices, which isnt very good when people who are local can pay the price on the site.. and we do cash/cheque on delivery, which works out at £6.00 inc. so not a bad charge to have.
But with banking charges, the cost effective, workings dont real work out well for both parties.
as with larger items, this could mean an added £360.
Ye' old way are simple, "wire" the money into the accout get the good, no charges and no "extra to pay" your happy im happy..
I am looking into site navagation, the hardware site is easy to use, and the computers are fairly straight forward, as the site offers direct search access, it is common for people to hit any page of the site with the information or goods they requier.
It been 7 years since i have worked on website, and with 6K hits in the first week t'was stupid as the site wassnt even ready, the training part has only been placed on a week ago. as you will note: the site has 3 sections and 3 looks. hardware/ software. computers, and support, consultancy, repairs..
I want to keep most of it simple and to use.
for exsample search X800xt gloucester, and you will find a link to .../today/index.html which is a page with the lastest graphics card, its not smart looking, but it give the information you need.. however, you may find a link to ../hardware/page12.html which is the hardware section. but then going onto computers, .../tec/index.html this looks different all together. but still links off to a white page with information on them, I will get around to sorting this out, but havent looked into it as im busy doing other things.
Hardware is good but not what i want to be doing, as computer support and repairs, we need to know where we can get stuff from if we have to fix things and need replacement.. as we also build computer system the parts help
GETTING BACK TO PAYMENTS AND BUYING
If your in doubt about a business, ask them for their registration number and or VAT number. (some business wont be VAT registired but very few are not)
go to your local trading stadards or business link, and they will be able to tell you if a business is real, if there not registired then dont buy from them. its a whoel different ball game when buying from a person, you will find info at www.dts.gov.uk, where there discription has to be correct, theres link on the ordering page of my site .
any way back to work..
sory about the site.. its a work in progress, Ive been online for a few weeks, still working on it..
1) ALL UK Companies have to be registered at www.companieshouse.gov.uk before you ask "Ltd" implies they are incorporated under the Companies Act 1985 and to exist would have to be registered there!
2) The Website now seems to have disappeared!
3) Deano09, like the rest of us has now been made highly sensitive to the potential of being scammed and with the only payment method being bank transfer (how we were scammed!) he was just putting us on alert. Most people here are on the lookout for a new graphics card and he had people's best interests at heart. If that has offended gloucestertraining then I am sorry but you would not believe how many times I have heard from Trading Standards and The Police that the only safe way of paying is by CREDIT CARD!! The reason being the Consumer Credit Act and the protection that it affords.
For the others sorry I have not been in contact I am in the middle of my exams!!! I will be emailing you individually when I have time to update!
Yes i am pissed off.
here is the reasons.
first off the website. it is easy to script in the "seruce connection" pad lock.
it take less than 2 minutes to decyphert 128 bit encription.
I could have easly said or placed a page on my site to take credit card details looking like a "real secure payment site" when if fact you would have sent your details.
But instead of doing that, where i could have taken the payments, Im honest so i didnt.
your card is ONLY protected to either a limit OR not covered, you will have to check with your bank for details on cover against fraud when buying on the interenet. (very few cards do so)
this must really make you want to buy on line after reading this.. i think not!
I did offer payment by paypal and cheque, not just a direct payment option.
Yes ltd company have to registir, but other companys dont.
the reason for this is that a limited company is required to have a secertary, and the business can only be sued to the value of the company, giving personal protection to thoses who own and run it. if they go bust or declair bankruptcy, thats it you can get nothing. (i think thats what happend to power house customers when they went under, even thought they were taking money that day and not sendding out goods.. AKA ripping people off)
I re-worked the X800/6800u, GT page http://gloucestertraining.no-ip.com/today/
When is this guy from GLOUSCESTERTRAINING going to drop it & let it go?
IF WE WANT TO BUY FROM YOU, IN THE MANNER YOU PRESCRIBE, THEN I'M SURE THOSE BIG ENOUGH & BOLD ENOUGH WILL DO SO...
Stop sending me e-mails about the credibility of your business.
Its as if you're trying to prove something here?
"We all believe that you are genuine...and wish you well in your business"
However, after 3 e-mails telling me how 'your bank' messed things up also followed by a continuous effort to promote direct transfer payment; I have arrived at the conclusion that (for security reasons) I will not be using your services.
I’m confident that you will amend the payment situation and sort out the ‘issues’ you currently have with the bank. As a recommendation though; don’t divulge your current banking issues with potential customers…it puts them off!
Fianlly, I am far from being a 'Time Waster', or as you put it "a waste people time"...
I simply have hard earned money which I'm trying to spend in the most secure and beneficial way. So ditch the attitude of 'suing for slander' & 'taking liable action' and concentrate your efforts on matters that are far more important.
Good Luck
Deano09
Hi with regards to a credit card payment not being secure you may well be right but in the situation of a company going bust or failing to deliver a person paying by credit card has a claim against the company and the credit card issuer. Yes, you are right there are limits anything between £100-£30,000, which I think will cover most things! These limits are not set by an individual bank and apply only to credit cards BUT THEY DO APPLY TO ALL. If you still have any doubts look up s.75 Consumer Credit Act 1974 or this link to the FSA http://www.fsa.gov.uk/consumer/financial_planning/credit_debt/mn_protection.html
If the Powerhouse customers had paid by credit card they could have their money back or would have had their goods delivered. This happened to relatives of my years ago and they received their money. I imagine it works by the Credit Card company giving you your money and you subrogating your rights against the company concerned.
As for credit card fraud online, I have bought in excess of 50 items online via a secure payment and have never had an issue (touch wood), the one time I paid by bank transfer I lost all my money that in itself should tell you! I have pre-ordered my card from Chillblast, they may be more expensive but their customers say they are good and that's all that matters now!
As for "limited company" yes they do have to register the only other company is a company limited by guarantee everyone else is either a soletrader or partnership! The point was Avnet Micro LTD implies they are a limited company and should be registered, as they are not registered they are not a legitimate company!
Short-Media is NOT an advertising site. Please desist from diluting the content of this newspost and thread with your advertising. If you wish to advertise your services and wares, then please contact one of the site owners to discuss this further. Otherwise, unless you have anything to add to the subject in hand (ie.. Avnet Micro LTD), then please don't respond.
I am assuming you are not an employee or an owner/partner of Avnet. If you are, Id suggest contacting and explaining your actions in the above mentioned matters.
If you are NOT, then with all due respect.. please STOP posting regarding your site/shop and services. We are not here to provide free advertising. Short-Media provides a platform for all types of PC user, to resolve and discuss many different issues but we do not appreciate members hassling members. The original thread has moved on from it's original content (the release of the aforementioned cards) onto a more strong subject (the conduct and alleged fraud). That is where this subject should remain. NOT for discussing how your service is better or more robust/trustworthy than any other.
I hope this is understood clearly. Any issues, please feel free to private message me or send me an email as appropriate.
To the assorted other posters, carry on and Im still hoping for some resolve for you all.
I would suggest scanning this thread for the other email addys of the various other members and guests who have posted and been defrauded.
They have a crime number... and more information than anyone
Plus, its worth noting that ASUS in the UK have publicly disowned the two websites in question that were offering this product. Id suggest talking to them as well and getting more feedback
Hope we can help
I have changed your email address so you dont get the hell spammed out of your account :ukflag:
avent micros, was a site trying to take business from advent mircos, if i remeber correcty, but this was years ago.
its hard to find info, on companies. I bought off a company i never head of, but they had a forum so i founf the email address of one of the people and contacted them about the company just to check there "real".
but someone said, that ebay reviews or feedback was good...
how hard is it to set up accounts in different names and then fake it? not hard enought! its like forums, they can be faked as well, so your still none the wiser..
and deno09, when you going to drop it, i have been getting mail form you for some time, so why the hell would i keep sending you emails, get a life! I only reply to the mails you have sent! the fact that i do say about the bank issues, etc, shows some call for honesty on my part.
AS for card protection..
There is a bankers code of conduct, made by the banker guild or what ever, but its not a law or anything they have to stand by. I was talking to a lawer about it the other week because of my bank issue, and he said that they can do what they want.
Just so you know, cheques can be returned upto 6 months after sending them, so you can get your money back if you had paid by cheque instead of direct transfer, but there must be some form of protection, even if it was by diret debit which is fully covered.
when you get down to it, if there money to be made there is always a scam.
with the amount of foreign people in the UK, they have been ripping off people for years in there country using methords we havent really seen here, look for odd names and accents when phoning them.. not say that a mark jones@buyfrome.com, is a real person or company, but public mail address should be checked. like yahoo, freeserver etc. and not used to make purchases. (BIG WARNING!) I have found that there using email companies all over the world to make the mail seam genuine, so have a look and search the net for the mail address's in name, if they give an address also search that, with "address" (speachmarks) as this will give you an exsact match and hope fully give that information which will confirm weather they are a good or bad company.
Fake it yourself, call them saying your a sales man from GCS selling the items you want to buy, if they say they dont buy them ..... then there a scam. stuff like that. I get a few scammers with there URL's and matching email address.
As i have said.
The company may well be giveing you the cards, as there not in the UK till the 29Th, then they may send it. and the same goes for the 6800 ultras and GT
you will have to wait and see.
Has anyone had any luck?
I have been done too.
On 4th May I ordered the following item;
Item Name: ASUS RADEON 9800XT.
Price: £264.00 (inc P&P).
On 17th May I ordered the following item;
Item Name: ASUS RADEON X800XT
Price: £355.00 (inc P&P).
Bank details are (for both):
Cahoot bank (Abbey National)
09-06-40
1******8
AVNET A Walker
Total Fraud Amount: £619.00.
I also discovered that their website has been taken down.
I emailed the web host and they informed me that a stolen
credit card had been used to pay for the web hosting!
I came across the website via Ebay too. Have you got an
URL of their listings/username?
To my knowledge, none of the posters here have yet to have any real luck getting any money back.
One of our members, Kris (who has posted in this thread countless times) has been communicating as many reports as possible, in the hopes of more investigation.. his email address has been published here several times:
edmondskje AT aol dot com
Hope it helps
I was trying to get the money back through my bank but they no longer want to
know since a bill payment is trusted as once sent it can't be amended.
I will need to visit the Police again to explain the new situation and obtain relevant
crime codes. I am glad that I'm not alone on this one.
Did you notice on Ebay listings a postcode of BT7 3AE? Perhaps we could
use this to our advantage?
I have emailed some of the Ebay accounts on his feedback. However, some are
coming back with bounced emails. It looks like fake ebay accounts may have
been created to give the main seller positive fake feedback, thus fooling us that
he is genuine and then us getting conned by paying him! Ah!
Regards,
Chris.