Notebook time!

GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
edited June 2004 in Hardware
Since my sister is graduating high school and going away to college, I'm selling my XP2200+ notebook to my parents to give her as a graduation present. That means I'm in the market for a new notebook.

Right now, I'm looking at one that Best Buy is selling, that looks pretty good. Here's the specs:

Athlon 64 3000+
Mobility Radeon 9600 64MB video
512MB PC2700
15.4" WXGA TFT LCD
60 GB HDD
DVD/CDRW combo
802.11g WiFi built-in

Here's the caveat: It's an eMachines! If it were any other brand, I'd snap this thing up in a second (especially considering the price). I'd prefer to get the new Mobility Radeon 9700 chip, but I'm hoping I can chug through modern games with the 9600.

What should I do?
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  • edited June 2004
    I was checking out barebones notebooks while offshore and I came across some pretty nice setups that would let you build your own notebook. While not cheap, it does save several hundred dollars on a high end laptop. What price is that emachines laptop, GHoosdum? I was looking at maybe building me a Pentium M lappy myself.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    muddocktor wrote:
    I was checking out barebones notebooks while offshore and I came across some pretty nice setups that would let you build your own notebook. While not cheap, it does save several hundred dollars on a high end laptop. What price is that emachines laptop, GHoosdum? I was looking at maybe building me a Pentium M lappy myself.

    Best Buy's price on it right now is $1500 with $250 in mail-in rebates.

    I don't know about built-it-myself plans, because I can get a 20% reimbursement from work on the purchase of a new PC (once every three years) and I haven't used it yet, so if I get something in the $1500 price range, I'll get $300 back (the reimbursement is taxed though so it ends up being like $150 after taxes)

    So that PC (or something with a similar deal) would cost me about $1100. ($1205 after tax though :rant: )

    If I get it at Best Buy, I'd also get about $100 in Reward Zone certificates back after a bit, which would get me the case and an MX-510 mouse...
  • GobblesGobbles Ventura California
    edited June 2004
    sounds to me like you just about have yourself talked into it.

    Compaq Presario r3140us
    http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=629881
    Product Information:
    1.8GHz AMD Athlon 64 3000+
    512MB RAM
    60GB hard drive
    DVD+RW/CD-RW
    56K
    10/100 Ethernet
    WiFi 802.11b/g
    Windows XP Home
    15.4" WXGA active-matrix display
    Price: $1,589.29

    there are other fish in the sea but they all look and act alike in my opinion.. Im sure the emachine will do alright for you.

    Gobbles
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited June 2004
    eeeeew compaq! boo! hiss!
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited June 2004
    Take a look at www.powernotebooks.com
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    That notebook at that price!
  • edited June 2004
    mmonnin wrote:
    Take a look at www.powernotebooks.com

    That's one of the sites I looked at 4 or 5 days ago and they have a damn good rating over at resellerratings.com too. I was drooling over a 2.0 Dothan with a 9700 mobile vid chipset. :rockon:

    I'd forgot the name of the website; thanks for the link. :D
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    I have been looking up mucho information on the eMachines M6809 and M6805 both are amazing from what has been said thus far. But they say that even though the M6805 is cheaper, and has a slightlys lower processor, it for some reason is better in gaming than the M6809. The only real differences between the two are the HDD, Processor, and a DVD-RW drive, the M6809 has the higher end stuff.

    But if you continue looking up more information, you'll find the M680X series is the best bang for the buck laptops out there right now.

    Check this out here...
    http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showforum=4

    Lots of threads about these eMachines... I'll be getting the M680x next month sometime. I just can't decide on which... I'd probably go for the M6805 for the money saved cuase this is gonna be one of those buys that will hurt my pockets again lol.
  • edited June 2004
    I second your opinion on that one geeky. Friends don't let friends buy compaq (or gigabyte).

    KF
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    Hmm.. Thanks for the info to consider, guys. I don't know if I can pull off a Powernotebooks purchase because they're a little strict at work about these things. RWB, I've been browsing that link for a while now. Lots of great info about that notebook.

    Anybody know how the Mobility Radeon 9600 is for gaming? I'm hoping to go DTR with this, and I need it to play Halo and UT2K4...
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    Sorry, but what is DTR... it is probably something I should know and will slap my forehead about when I find out too :P
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited June 2004
    If you can get one from powernotebooks, you should be very happy. I bought my Sager from them, and my mom's PowerPro and their sales/support team (both sager's and powernotebooks'- powernotebooks supports the powerpros themselves) is absolutely outstanding. Easily better than Newegg, in fact. :eek:
  • edited June 2004
    Yeah, they have a 10.00 rating at resellerratings.com, which is perfect.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited June 2004
    A 10.0 in and of itself isn't terribly impressive. A 10.0 with 704 reviews, on the other hand... :eek::eek2:
  • edited June 2004
    ATTENTION: slight threadjack coming. :D

    Geeky, what do you think of that powernotebook with the 9700 mobility and a 2.0 Dothan, the PowerPro M 5:6 FORCE? My present laptop is now over 3 years old and I was thinking of getting a 40 gig 7200 rpm Hitachi drive for it, but I started looking around while at work last week and ran across this one, dressed out with a Dothan 2.0, a 60 gig 7200 rpm drive, a USB floppy (for compatibility to transfer info to my reliefs) and the 4X DVD burner for $2296, plus shipping? I don't mind buying the high end in laptops because I don't upgrade but every 3 or 4 years. For the OS, I'll just buy an oem license since I already have the oem media and save a few bucks.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    That's a <i>ridiculously</i> powerful and well-rounded notebook.
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    My roomate got the 8790 from powernotebooks, all in all it costed him $2400, it has a P4 3Ghz or 3.2, 1GB of DDR400, Radeon 9700 Pro w/ 256MB, and DVD-RW and all that good stuff... it's pretty awsome if you want to spend that kind of money.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    muddocktor wrote:
    I was checking out barebones notebooks while offshore and I came across some pretty nice setups that would let you build your own notebook. While not cheap, it does save several hundred dollars on a high end laptop. What price is that emachines laptop, GHoosdum? I was looking at maybe building me a Pentium M lappy myself.

    Depends on what you want. IF you want a media-rich desktop replacement in a lappie that's durable, Sager or PowerNotebooks or a couple others (Dell's cutom configurator lists some ways to do this for less than a Sager, but they are a bit more prone to heating issues as they have cases that are not tuned for heat dispersion as well as a Sager is)-- part of hardening a laptop is not how the case holds together when you drop it, but whether the HD does not skip if its also on when it hits the floor, whether the CD-ROm thats running lets loose of teh CD and the CD swipes the laser read head, ANd whether the thing will run outside or on a work site with bad air conditioning problems on a hot day stably. Sager chjarges, but they build for durablility and meeting needs of purpose.

    IF you want, OTOH, a notebook mostly to take notes, keep docs for back at teh office work, (that kind of thing) and can process them on a desktop you have, look for something durable but not as fast as absolute top end. The more you want media-rich the more the diff between a lappie and a desktop will reach out and BITE you in the wallet, even now. But, Sager does have decent mfr behind them that has made lappies for a long time and as a result has weeded out most of the wrong things to do when building a lappie. Dell does also, they have long term contracts with third parties for lappie barebones and have other contracts for parts and accessories-- but most of their lappies are not media specialists.

    One alternative, and I am not saying anyone is wrong, the right things have almost all been said, is an Area 51-M Laptop. Its gotten good reviews and those are on the web if you lookup that name on Google. Price will be similar, but it is specifically media tuned for media-rich use as a mobile desktop. Not as durable as a comparable Sager, not quite as much for feature set offered though in same ballpark. Those you can also get custom. One seller of this kind of media-rich laptop is Alienware (IIRC), and they have not been known for laptops but do not mfr their own totally either-- they use an established OEM laptop builder to supply most fo what gets shipped.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    Completely agreed with what John said. :)

    /me goes off to check his pulse
  • edited June 2004
    Very good timing here, I'm thinking of getting a laptop as well. I was pretty dead set on Centrino (still am actually) and was looking for more of a travel companion with good HD space and RAM instead of a desktop replacement. I'm assuming you're leaning towards the desktop replacement spectrum?

    EDIT: If you are looking for more of a travel lappy with great battery time I think Toshiba or IBM are the way to go. Those are currently my top 2 choices.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited June 2004
    I despise Toshiba notebooks. I spent 2 years in the laptop program at my high school, which pushed Toshiba notebooks, and 2 more years working with teachers with Toshiba notebooks. They are poorly built, poorly designed pieces of crap.

    I'm in the market for a new notebook myself, because mine is 2 years old, and it's time for it to be retired in favor of something a bit better. Right now, I'm basically considering either a 2.0GHz Dothan or an A64 DTR 3400+. I may wait, though, because ATi announced a PCI express-based X600m GPU, and I don't really need it until the middle of August.

    Mudd: The PowerPro that you're looking at is one of the Dothan based systems I'm thinking about. It looks like a very nice notebook.

    I'd stay away from the Alienware Area 51-M and the other machines based on the same chassis. It's got a SiS 648FX chipset, which means single channel DDR, no RAID support, etc. The Sager 8790 and 5690 are better machines.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    Dothan 2.0.... drool....

    Makes my Banias 1.3 look like a little bitch... That s'okay though.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    RWB wrote:
    Sorry, but what is DTR... it is probably something I should know and will slap my forehead about when I find out too :P

    DTR is Desktop Replacement. It denotes notebooks that are powerful enough to do anything a desktop PC can do. //edit: it also denotes desktop-derived notebook CPUs which are not truly "Mobile" versions of those CPUs.

    I'm a little concerned that the M9600 is a bit weak to play games - the benchmarks and reviews I've seen show sub-30FPS performance in games like Halo... but the only notebook with the M9700 I've seen that I can afford is a dell with a 2.8GHz PeeFour... :bawling:
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited June 2004
    how much is the dell?
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    About $1400 or so. It's the base model 9100, to which I've upgraded the LCD by one level.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited June 2004
    http://www.powernotebooks.com/configure.php?special=25
    1.5GHz Pentium M, Radeon 9700m, 256MB DDR, 20GB HDD. $1410 ($1375 w/cash discount)
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    I like the 5:6 Supra better than the Ultra (it's quite underpowered for my tastes) but I'm a little wary of the price - it's a bit out of my range... but the gaming would be so GOOD...

    //edit: The other notebooks that I'm looking at beat the 5:6 Ultra in every spec except for the vid card... I don't know whether it's worth making a slight sacrifice in gaming, or a sacrifice in everything else...
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    Geeky1 wrote:
    http://www.powernotebooks.com/configure.php?special=25
    1.5GHz Pentium M, Radeon 9700m, 256MB DDR, 20GB HDD. $1410 ($1375 w/cash discount)

    whoa.
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited June 2004
    Dothan 2.0.... drool....

    Makes my Banias 1.3 look like a little bitch... That s'okay though.

    I know it may hurt to hear it prime, but your Banias IS a little bitch.
    ;D
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    nooooooooo! :bawling:
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