High Temp for CPU & Casing

beserker_77beserker_77
edited November 2004 in Hardware
Hi guys any help will be appreciated, currently i just upgraded my mb but i've notice that my PC and CPU temp is really high(average Casing Temp:52 degree, CPU Temp: 63 degrees), the rest of the specs are as follows;

a. CPU, AMD 2500+
b. MainBoard, KT880 Delta Series
c. RAM, 512mb Kingston PC3200 DDR 400
d. Inno 3D GF 4 MX440
e. Heat Sink Fan, Cooler Master Aero 7 plus
f. 2 in no. exhaust fan

Any idea how to lower the temp down, will this temp spoilt my CPU and mb??

Regards

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  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited August 2004
    beserker_77 wrote:
    Hi guys any help will be appreciated, currently i just upgraded my mb but i've notice that my PC and CPU temp is really high(average Casing Temp:52 degree, CPU Temp: 63 degrees), the rest of the specs are as follows;

    a. CPU, AMD 2500+
    b. MainBoard, KT880 Delta Series
    c. RAM, 512mb Kingston PC3200 DDR 400
    d. Inno 3D GF 4 MX440
    e. Heat Sink Fan, Cooler Master Aero 7 plus
    f. 2 in no. exhaust fan

    Any idea how to lower the temp down, will this temp spoilt my CPU and mb??

    Regards

    Under 55C CPU is best, but mobo temp monitors are unreliable.

    Is it stable? ie: Prime 95, 3dMark loops, FAH, stable? If it is dont worry about it too much.
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited August 2004
    is your bios up to date? i had a bios read 7* hotter after i flashed it
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited August 2004
    Put one of those fans as exhaust. The air cant get out.
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited August 2004
    mmonnin wrote:
    Put one of those fans as exhaust. The air cant get out.

    Mmonnin's right (didn't notice that) :banghead:

    One fan should blow on the HD's but otherwise You're better off with them set to exhaust.

    PC airflow and heat - a cooling guide
  • beserker_77beserker_77
    edited August 2004
    mmonnin wrote:
    Put one of those fans as exhaust. The air cant get out.

    One of my fan is set to intake(1800 rpm) at the front, while the other is an exhaust fan(2500rpm) at the back. There is only an improvement of 2 degrees.
  • beserker_77beserker_77
    edited August 2004
    Omega65 wrote:
    Under 55C CPU is best, but mobo temp monitors are unreliable.

    Is it stable? ie: Prime 95, 3dMark loops, FAH, stable? If it is dont worry about it too much.

    i've run 3dmark loops its in stable condition, any way to check the correct temp for the mobo? Cause i'm afraid that it might burn off the chip.

    :bawling:
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited August 2004
    What are you using to check the temps?

    Is it hot to the touch? As in you couldnt keep your finger on it for more than a second? If so then its actually hot. If its just warm then the temp reading is off some.
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited August 2004
    mmonnin wrote:
    What are you using to check the temps?

    Is it hot to the touch? As in you couldnt keep your finger on it for more than a second? If so then its actually hot. Its its just warm then the temp readin is off some.
    He means touch the Heatsink, dont take off the heatsink and touch the chip!
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited August 2004
    Hehe yeah what he said. Chip w/o heatsink = no no.
  • beserker_77beserker_77
    edited August 2004
    mmonnin wrote:
    What are you using to check the temps?

    Is it hot to the touch? As in you couldnt keep your finger on it for more than a second? If so then its actually hot. If its just warm then the temp reading is off some.

    I'm using MSI Core center software to monitor the temp.
    I tried touching the heat sink when core center indicate 61 degrees but its not hot at all.
    Lets assume that the temp reading is off, any way to check the actual temp of the cpu?
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited August 2004
    A thermal probe of some sort. If its not hot to the touch its reading totally wrong.
  • JChretienJChretien Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited August 2004
    try mbm5? it may give you a more accurate reading...
  • beserker_77beserker_77
    edited August 2004
    Whats a mbm5???
  • mcwcmcwc Vancouver, BC Member
    edited August 2004
    It's a monitoring tool to monitor temps, voltages, fan speeds, etc.

    MBM5
  • MAGICMAGIC Doot Doot Furniture City, Michigan Icrontian
    edited September 2004
    might wanna take the heatsink off and make sure it was good and flush with the cpu. if the heatsink isnt at least warm there cant be a good connection
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2004
    ' wrote:
    [V][AGIC']might wanna take the heatsink off and make sure it was good and flush with the cpu. if the heatsink isnt at least warm there cant be a good connection

    That's not necessarily true; heatsinks can stay cool for two reasons. One is, as you stated, the lack of good contact between the base and the CPU core. The other is that the heatsink is overkill; none of the heatsinks in my systems get warm to the touch under normal circumstances.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited September 2004
    One of my fan is set to intake(1800 rpm) at the front, while the other is an exhaust fan(2500rpm) at the back. There is only an improvement of 2 degrees.
    That is solid progress - nothing to laugh at. Can you give us the name/model of your case? Maybe we have more suggestions for you.
    heatsinks can stay cool for two reasons. One is, as you stated, the lack of good contact between the base and the CPU core.
    Exactly. There is an interface material between the CPU's heatsink and the CPU itself. There are wildly varying differences in the quality of the interface material. If this material is low quality, the heat energy transfer from the CPU to the heatsink can be be very poor. Is this an off-the-shelf computer?
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2004
    There is an interface material between the CPU's heatsink and the CPU itself. There are wildly varying differences in the quality of the interface material. If this material is low quality, the heat energy transfer from the CPU to the heatsink can be be very poor. Is this an off-the-shelf computer?

    Thermal compound can't account for more than a few degrees C though, under normal circumstances (i.e. assuming the heatsink is installed properly)
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited September 2004
    Yes, right. That's why our friend should try to provide us some more specs on his puter - namely, the case.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2004
    Yeah :)
  • TimTim Southwest PA Icrontian
    edited November 2004
    I have a Powmax case for my home built system.

    When I removed one of the unused floppy drive bay block off plates, The case temp went down 1 degree and the fans sounded different. The 2 case fans lost 100-200 rpm because of more airflow / air load on them. If I held my fingers in front of the open floppy bay, I can definitely feel the air being pulled in.

    Then I upgraded that design. I put the floppy bay cover plate back on and took off one of the 3 unused CD / DVD drive covers above it. They're about 3-1/2 to 4 times the size. This gave me a 3 degree case and 3 degree cpu temperature drop over what the open floppy bay readings were!

    I think having the big hole in the computer case will let more dust get in, but that seems to happen anyway.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited November 2004
    If you can find a link to a picture of your case, we could probably come up with ideas for you to both lower your temps and keep the dust out. There are many easy case/fan modifications that you can do to improve a case's thermal efficiency.
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