Does anyone hate Electronic Arts as much as I do?

ArmoArmo Mr. Nice Guy Is Dead,Only Aqua Remains Member
edited January 2007 in Gaming
http://sports.ign.com/articles/572/572886p1.html

http://www.igda.org/articles/easpouse_qol.php


i REALLLLLLYYYY dispise EA and all their tricks they pull. If you've lived in a hole for the past 10 years ill tell you why i hate them so much. instead of MAKING games, they just go out and buy companies that make games: Maxis ( simcity people) Westwood Studios ( command and Conquer creators) the company that made System Shock, and System Shock 2 fell under the iron fist of this would be giant to turn great games\companies into nothing more than mediocare products they just shove down peoples mouths.

for every game you go out and purchase under the EA logo you can ganuntee there is a slayed company that was bought and ripped apart for it.
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  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    Sounds familiar......
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida Member
    edited December 2004
    HOLY CRAP! Exclusive rights to the NFL teams, stadiums, and players. I think Madden may become slightly more popular these next few years. :doh:

    I like EA. I guess I have been pretty much under the rock as to knowing exactly what they were doing with the company, but I like a LOT of the games that have come out under their name these past few years.
  • gtghmgtghm New
    edited December 2004
    You don't have to buy their games or work for them if its that bad.

    Heck if I could get one of my ideas out there that a big corp would be willing to pay to buy me out then I'd sell out in a heartbeat.

    I really don't see the problem... It seems to be a case of freemarket ecomomy and a fact of commerce.

    No one will care in a hundread years anyway.

    "g"
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    HEY! I'm trying to get a job with EA when I graduate... would you hate them then? :p

    Though I may actually get with a smaller company instead for other reasons. EA also bought Criterion, who made... or whom bought out the original owners of a product called "RenderWare". Which if they are as evil as you think, could be a bad thing. EA now owns a product which is used industry wide in shortening the amount of time it takes to build a new Game. It's bad in that EA can basically say what goes with the product now, IF they choose to licence it out still. Though I am sure they will since it currently costs $300,000 for the bare basic package, and even more money per module such as Sound, extra Effects for various other asepects too that I cannot think of at the moment.

    RenderWare really is amazing, and just in case you don't know, it's a "MiddleWare" product that you buy to get a jump start in a game engine, you buy whatever you need, then the programmers adjust it's expencive OpenSource code to their liking adding and taking out whatever they wish. It's been used in many many products like GTA3, and I think BattleField 1942, more than likely BattleField 2 as well.

    I got to play with it some for a couple months :D

    But I really don't think EA is any more evil than ANY other corporation out there "trying to make a buck". I know there are companies out there that really do care, and others who are just like Microsoft, but not as sucessful. But I'd say most are as evil as they can be.
  • JBJB Carlsbad, CA
    edited December 2004
    BOOOOOOOO...ESPN football is so much better than Madden, and i was looking forward to ESPN NFL 2K6 :(
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    EA also owns the exclusive video game rights to companies like Porsche, Ferarri and Lamborghini, which is why they're never in Gran Turismo. ;)
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida Member
    edited December 2004
    Thrax wrote:
    EA also owns the exclusive video game rights to companies like Porsche, Ferarri and Lamborghini, which is why they're never in Gran Turismo. ;)
    Hmm... Should've thought about that when I realized teh Need For Speed was the only game I've seen those cars in. :banghead:
  • NiGHTSNiGHTS San Diego Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    I had a Japanese version of GT 1 which managed to slip the Porsche in under the name RUF, always thought that was kind of funny.
  • NomadNomad A Small Piece of Hell Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    EA is now under lawsuit by their own employees for subjecting them to 80 hour workweeks for months at end and refuse to pay them overtime. Also, their sports games severely lack and are loosing a lot of ground to the ESPN series. So much in fact, that they were forced to lower their prices, although they cited other reasons. :rolleyes:
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    NiGHTS wrote:
    I had a Japanese version of GT 1 which managed to slip the Porsche in under the name RUF, always thought that was kind of funny.

    It's in the US version of GT2. ;D
  • ClutchClutch North Carolina New
    edited December 2004
    Nomad wrote:
    EA is now under lawsuit by their own employees for subjecting them to 80 hour workweeks for months at end and refuse to pay them overtime.

    They will think about that when their job is shipped overseas.
  • qparadoxqparadox Vancouver, BC
    edited December 2004
    EA Canada is centered in Vancouver and they employ numerous SFU (my university) co-ops and graduates. I have yet to meet a co-op student or regular EA employee who worked reasonable hours. They're well known locally as being a "sweat shop developer" whose employees are expected to work well in excess of 40 hour work weeks. I know this is somewhat expect in high-tech field as work tends to pile up before deadlines, but everything I've heard and seen at EA seems like bad news. While you'd think their co-op postings would have tons of applicants (who doesn't wanna be involved in the games industry), quite often they get far fewer SFU applicants than other big name companies. I'm pretty sure this is simply due to their rep as a inequitable employer. So yes I loathe EA .. but for different reasons. Admittedly the only EA games I own are from the C&C series as I gave up on sports games a looong time ago.

    And on the comparison to Microsoft ... well I loathe MS as well, but at least they're known for treating their employees well.
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited December 2004
    EA bailed Maxis out of financial trouble and catapulted some of the best software ideas kicked around by the troubled software developer into the best selling game of all time for the PC: The Sims.

    Maxis & head software architect Will Wright (creator of almost all of the "Sim" games) tried to launch a much earlier version of The Sims (or some type of "electronic dollhouse" application) in the early 90's, and it wasn't well received by the community at all. So much so that the project was scrapped and placed on the back burner while work progressed on other big-selling titles @ the time (SC2K, Sim Tower & Sim Isle).

    With the assistance of EA, Maxis was able to get the title working, up to snuff and shipped. The result? The definitive number 1 selling game of all time with countless expansion packs, raking in the dough for EA.

    So in essence, EA was a saving grace for Maxis, and in return Maxis has become EA's cash-cow.

    Do I hate EA? Not for what they have done for the Simulation gaming industry, but for stagnating other genre's, yes.
  • LincLinc Owner Detroit Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    I would trade any loathing in for an updated version of SimTower :(
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    Me too. :( I still play it on dosbox dos emulator.
  • edited December 2004
    I personally like EA games, BF42 is killer, I'm dying to play BF Vietnam too. I'm not big on sports games though but that's just me.
  • botheredbothered Manchester UK
    edited December 2004
    I can never understand people complaining about working long hours. It's very simple. Don't work there. The only reason companies can do this is because people are prepared to do it, it's self inflicted. If everybody said NO, and only worked ,say, 40 hours, then everybody would work 40 hours. It's like people here who work for agencys who complain about poor wages, well don't work for agencys. Companies will screw us just as much as we allow them to.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited December 2004
    I don't hate EA, but I am disappointed with them. I've got the entire "Need For Speed" series, going back to the original DOS game. For the most part, they've always been good games... the best one in the series was Porsche Unleashed tho, and since then, they've gone completely in the other direction. NFS Underground and Underground 2 are arcade games far more than they are simulations. And arcade games suck.
  • JChretienJChretien Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited December 2004
    eh
    Gran Turismo 3 -A spec has a couple RUFs in them... RUF is a company that modifies Porsches so much that it doesnt count as a porsche anymore... i think theres a 911 turbo RUF and a boxter RUF and a 911 carerra RUF.. i love most of EAs games but i also hate them for not letting Gran Turismo have porsches/ferarris/lambos -_-
  • NomadNomad A Small Piece of Hell Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    Clutch, jobs like those at EA aren't very likely to be outsourced. Also, Bothered, the problem arises in getting people to do that enmass. EA controls such a sizeable portion of the gaming market that it is increasingly difficult to not end up working there. I'm suprised EA employees haven't unionized and told the company to go screw yet though. Maybe they have non-Union clauses.
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    in all honesty i dot know how they got sole rights to the Names of players without the players saying that they give them SOLE right to use thier name
  • BlackHawkBlackHawk Bible music connoisseur There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    I may be wrong but usually If you're in the league, they can use your name. If you're not in the league (retired), they can't use your name or anything unless you're in a hall of fame or veterans association (or something along those lines).
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited December 2004
    I would trade any loathing in for an updated version of SimTower :(

    One exists... to an extent... :)

    Yoot Saito, creative mastermind behind SimTower, took the idea one step further and expanded the capabilities of SimTower, making it much more customizable and more challenging, but went with SegaPC as the publisher instead of Maxis.

    The result? Yoot's Tower.

    http://pc.ign.com/articles/161/161789p1.html
  • GobblesGobbles Ventura California
    edited December 2004
    every EA title I have every bought has had a crash to desktop because of DX sound issue. Every title, sports/fps/rpg...

    Thats why I hate buying any EA title
  • LincLinc Owner Detroit Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    SimGuy wrote:
    One exists... Yoot's Tower.
    ...and now it's enroute to my mailbox :D Many thanks sir.
  • ShivianShivian Australia
    edited December 2004
    I hate EA cause their tech support is absolutely f***ed. I bought Cricket 2004 (I dare say it wasn't released in the states) and anyway the scoring in the game had bugs. Like it would say your player has scored 2 boundaries when they scored their first for example. I reported the bugs and tech support replies "Do you have the latest graphics drivers?"

    Me -> "WTF has that got to do with the problem you retarded monkey?" Well I don't think I exactly put it like that but that was how I was feeling about it at the time. Anyway, mid this year they released the first patch for Cricket 2002 so chances of getting a patch for Cricket 2004 before 2006-07 look slim to none.

    If it wasn't for BF1942, there wouldn't be an EA game I proudly own (or want to).
  • gtghmgtghm New
    edited December 2004
    :eek2: Woah :scratch:
    I bought Cricket 2004

    Now thats one you don't hear everyday!

    :D
  • FreemymelodyFreemymelody On Earth
    edited December 2004
    EA....did an article for them once...or I think it was a Brochure...
  • edited December 2004
    I can't really say I hate EA...

    They've made my favorite game of all time: Battlefield 1942.

    But their follow up (Battlefield Vietnam), was possibly the most purchased WORST release by EA, ever?

    Hopefully Battlefield 2 (possibly the most anticipated game by the bf42, dc, and bfv communities), with enough support this game WILL go to summer '05 CPL.

    #BF24SUMMER
  • BlackHawkBlackHawk Bible music connoisseur There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Icrontian
    edited December 2004
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