Athlon XP 1.67ghz vs Apple G5 1.60ghz Benchmarks...

Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
edited August 2003 in Science & Tech
saw this link on the <a href="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11182&quot; target=_blank>The Inq: AMD, Apple G5 & G4 contrasted</a>

<a href="http://www.theandyzone.com/Computer/shootout.html&quot; target=_blank><b>G4, G5, and AMD Shoot-Out!</b></a>

<i>After looking at these, I was a bit surprised at the relative strength of the AMD 2000+ versus the 1.6 IBM 970. In some arenas, the gap was wider than I had expected it to be. In some others, the 970 was competitive. (And it was nice for me personally to have my dual 1.25 be at least as fast on the CPU rendering test above.) If anyone has benchmarks using Cinebench 2003 for a 1.8 Ghz G5, if you'll send them to me I'll attach them, too, as well as any other Pentium 4 benchmarks using the same utility.

Has Apple closed the speed gap? That remains to be seen. Certainly, it's evident from these benchmarks that the 1.6 G5 is competitive with the 1.67 Ghz AMD (2000+ rated), though in most cases the AMD showed itself to be slightly stronger. Of course, these are the results of only one benchmark. Personally, I like this benchmark <b>(Cinebench)</b> since I work graphics and video.</i>


Apple Sucks! ;D;D;D;D

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  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    And everyone wondered (Sorta) why the G5 chips were never compared to anything but the Pentium 4s.

    So what do we know?

    Hammer > Athlon XP > G5 > Pentium 4

    But we already knew that. It's a shame Apple did nothing but insult themselves by comparing their chips to a p4...That's like using a Mitsubishi Eclipse against a Honda Accord to show the Eclipse is better. What's it prove?

    Oh yes, it proves that Apple is a bad company with a moronic leader followed blindly with lemming-like board members that exist to serve aesthetically pleasing products to mentally-deficient artists and indie musicians. Adding insult to injury, the architecture remains 12 months behind AMD, and 3 months ahead of Intel, the latter not saying much, with no intent to bring it into the modern era.

    Apple continues to be a sinking ship...I'm just waiting for it to snap in half and go under to finally kill off the miserably blind lackies that the company has left.

    "Apple is better for media!"

    Shall be the words of death that will forever mark the weak company and their similarly weak users.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited August 2003
    Thrax, it doesn't matter tho. All the macheads took the G5 benchmarks as the word of God anyhow...
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited August 2003
    The G5 1.6ghz with it's "advanced" FSB Bus, can barely match a AXP 1.67 FSB266 256K L2 Cache CPU.

    It would get killed by a FSB333 or 400 Barton 512K. Much less an Opteron/Athlon64 1MB

    Less performance at Twice the Price!

    I say again Apple sucks! ;D;D;D;D
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    Apple didn't even get hypertransport right.

    Idiots.
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited August 2003
    Less performance at Twice the Price! ;D;D;D;D
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited August 2003
    Another Page Benchmarking the G5 2.0ghz using <b>Cinebench 2003</b>

    <a href="http://www.barefeats.com/g5sum02.html&quot; target=_blank>G5 Power Mac vs Others</a>
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited August 2003
    Oh, but it's the "World's Fastest, Most Powerful Personal Computer". Apparently dual-cpu "ibm compatibles" don't count as personal computers... Which is funny, because my dual athlon system gets used for all the stuff my other systems do... :rolleyes:
  • PreacherPreacher Potomac, MD Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    Even if the G5's CPU was a great as all the Apple publicity claims, there's always the lack of software, upgrade options, and peripherals. Not to mention the significantly higher cost...

    I've always thought Steve Jobs was in the wrong occupation. He'd have been a great politician. I mean how many times has he taken a turd, cleaned and polished it, and made it out to be a diamond.

    But hey...there's always the iPod and iTunes to fall back on.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    Introducing Apple iTunes:
    "Our experienced engineers have taken incredible care when producing the new audio format native to Apple iTunes. Through systematic trial and error with compression algorithms, we believe that our AAC audio format, now with rFilter will provide CB-radio quality sound at exceptionally small sizes. We're sure our lemming-like user base will praise this product as if it were actually a quality entity. We at Apple would like to thank Apple users and users of Apple iTunes for paying a fee and defending our **** of miserable quality! Without fine supporters like those of the Apple platform, we'd already be filing for chapter 11. Thanks for being crappy, to keep crappy products alive."
  • PreacherPreacher Potomac, MD Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    Thrax,
    you really ought to think about a career in marketing for an ad agency. Send a couple add ideas like that to Apple and I'm sure they'd snap you up in a second!
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    They'd love me.
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited August 2003
    Thrax could do ads for Apple and I could do ads for State Farm. ;D
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    Oh yes, it proves that Apple is a bad company with a moronic leader followed blindly with lemming-like board members that exist to serve aesthetically pleasing products to mentally-deficient artists and indie musicians.

    Marketing? No, Thrax is too subtle. :wtf:

    I'm just waiting for one of their moronic advertisements to say it like it is: "Apple, for the touchy-feely among us".
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    The second page is the only real relevent one as it is done in software mode, meaning its basically emulated entirely by the processor, rather than the first page of tests which would be using the graphic cards abilities and power.

    NS
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited August 2003
    well but depending on the GPU they were using... why not compare a mac 9700 to a pc 9700. they make them dont they?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    Apple Quicksilver 2001dual 1 GHz CPU PowerMac
    -1.5 GB PC133 SDRAM,
    -two 120GB HD's (7200 and 5400 rpm)
    -Radeon 9000 Pro video card

    Apple 2003 Mirror Door dual 1.25 GHz PowerMac
    -1.2 GB DDR RAM,
    -160 HD
    -120 HD (7200 rpm),
    -Radeon 9000 Pro video card

    Homebuilt AMD 2000+ (1.67 GHz) CPU
    -512MB DDR RAM (PC 2100),
    -60 GB HD (5400 rpm), 120 GB HD (7200 rpm)
    -ATI All-In-Wonder 9000 video card

    To NightShade:
    All tests were relevant, as the CPU has significant power over the capabilities of the GPU. As you can see, all tests used identical video cards, however the speeds of the test vary wildly. This, logically so, points to the capability (Or incapability) of the processor in regards to the final score/time.

    As video cards were identical, and the Macs continuously failed to achieve the highest score, we can only come to the conclusion that mac architecture sucks.


    To TheBaron:
    Read the test set up. Don't just look at the pictures.
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    Thrax, bro, you need to chill, every time I see you post it seems your just bashing something or someone. Gonna get an ulser or something.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    ...Yer...Ok.

    Obviously you don't read around very much.
  • WuGgaRoOWuGgaRoO Not in the shower Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    isnt sse disabled or sumthing like that during the tests...i mean lets face it..the 3.0ghz intel system with hperthreading enabled will beat the 3000+ system by AMD....i mean ive seen a lot of benches..and it happens...whats wrong with this bench?
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    RWB said
    Thrax, bro, you need to chill, every time I see you post it seems your just bashing something or someone. Gonna get an ulser or something.

    He was just correcting people. Nothing wrong with that ;)

    NS
  • TekGamerTekGamer Earth
    edited August 2003
    never believe anything released by an advertising department..
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited August 2003
    Bbbut Intel said the Pentium 4 was the bestest for the internet... so I bought a Pentium 4 laptop... :confused: so they lied to me? OMG!!! ;D;D

    Apple's marketing is outright lying. I don't know how they're getting away with it. The G5 isn't the "world's fastest, most powerful personal computer" by any stretch of the imagination, and the only benchmarks that say it is are Apple's own. Apple's benchmarks aren't just biased, they're flat out fradulent. They optimized the benchmarks for the Apple, and disabled the optimizations for the PC, and they compared it to the Pentium 4, but left out the Athlon. Oh, and they seem to think that a Dual CPU G5 is equivalent to a single CPU PC. I want to know what the guys @ Apple's ad agency are smoking...
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    It is!

    Dual G5 = Athlon XP 2000+ ;D
  • WuGgaRoOWuGgaRoO Not in the shower Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    they must be smoking glue...cuz ppl on ganja dont say **** thats THATT crazy
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited August 2003
    to thrax : i didn't look at the pictures OR the test setup... i never looked at all :-D

    regardless, that still proves my point in that the GPU is not a factor as it is the same GFX card across all 3 test setups
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