Geeky1University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited September 2003
Yeah, that aopen may actually get to replace my Antec 1240, since it's got a lot of potential. I mean look @ the inside front of that case- can you say "Comair Rotron Major DC 24v 6.75" fan" (I know it's a mouthful but do it anyhow )? 235CFM, across the entire motherboard. Throw the NF7-S in there with the 1800 and I'll be able to get some REAL overclocking done
20 years? I don't know, since we haven't had them for 20 years it's hard to say with absolute certainty. I would buy name-brand CDs though as they're normally only a couple cents more per CD. Slashdot had a link a couple months ago to a story stating that the CDs would only last 2 years or so, but I think that was probably off-brand CDs written with a crappy burner that were exposed to too much light.
Keep 'em dark.
Keep 'em dry.
They should last a while.
Tim K said How long will a CD last if stored properly? I've heard that digital media deteriorates after 20 years.
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Geeky1University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited September 2003
A2J, CDs have been around since 1985, so we've had them almost 20 years. as I recall, they last basically forever as long as you take care of them.
Tim, thanks for the info. I'll take a look around newegg and stuff and see what I come up with.
Ok, maybe I should have said CD-R/CD-RW/DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD+R/DVD+RW/etc... but I thought everyone would know when I said "CD" I meant burnables! We haven't had burnables for 20 years.
Geeky1 said A2J, CDs have been around since 1985, so we've had them almost 20 years. as I recall, they last basically forever as long as you take care of them.
Tim, thanks for the info. I'll take a look around newegg and stuff and see what I come up with.
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Geeky1University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited September 2003
(Ok, so now I'm just doing it because I enjoy being a pain in the @ss... )
Consumers haven't had CD-Rs and other formats for 20 years, but they had to be getting data on those early CDs somehow, so we must have had recordable cds for near 20 years
Actually there is a huge difference between glass-master pressed CDs and recordable (burnable) CDs. Mastered CDs are NOT recorded, they are physically stamped into a thin sheet of aluminum, so archival life on those will be outstanding. Archival life on a cheap cyanine (blue or blue green) disks is weak - they are starting to say less than 5 years. The dyes are a chemical that just deteriorate over time. The slightly better phthalocyanine (usually gold-ish) is supposed to last 20 years or so. Mitsui claims that phthalocyanine disks did not degrade after 180 hours under their high-power carbon arc lamp test, where the cyanine disks fell apart. Who knows. Point being, in a couple of years, DVD burners will be 50-60 bucks, and you should "upgrade" anything you want archived to those. Then, in 5 years, something better will be there to archive to. And so it goes on.
What's different about DVD's that makes them better for archiving use?
I've got some Memorex CD-R's here that seem to have a gold tint to them. Are they the good ones as far as CD's go?
I didn't know I was supposed to keep CD's out of the light. All my CD's are getting moved to a dark place immediately!
Does it hurt them to be stored within a foot of a CRT computer monitor?
Prime - I had trouble logging in here today. It wouldn't accept anything, so I had to reregister as Tim instead of Tim_K.
I emailed you about that.
And Thom STILL hasn't emailed me on how to set up the message board for my website! I emailed you on that also. I need Thom's email address, because I don't have it anymore.
I forgot to mention I'd like to have a RAID 1 setup, so all the data gets saved to 2 seperate hard drives. In case one goes bad I'll have another backup.
Tim said What's different about DVD's that makes them better for archiving use?
I've got some Memorex CD-R's here that seem to have a gold tint to them. Are they the good ones as far as CD's go?
I didn't know I was supposed to keep CD's out of the light. All my CD's are getting moved to a dark place immediately!
Does it hurt them to be stored within a foot of a CRT computer monitor?
Prime - I had trouble logging in here today. It wouldn't accept anything, so I had to reregister as Tim instead of Tim_K.
I emailed you about that.
And Thom STILL hasn't emailed me on how to set up the message board for my website! I emailed you on that also. I need Thom's email address, because I don't have it anymore.
Tim.. what's the problem with your forums login? Pm me and Il sort it for you
If you want help setting up a board on your site, let me know. I've done PHPBB2, Vbulletin and Invision
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1. 80-200 MB will be enough. I burn everything to CD for permanent backup copies.
How long will a CD last if stored properly? I've heard that digital media deteriorates after 20 years.
2. I currently have DSL that uses a USB (not USB 2.0) port.
3. I don't really need a DVD burner. I have a CD-RW / DVD combo drive already.
4. Noise isn't a big deal. I'll just put the tower under the table instead of on it if it's too loud.
5. I can modify the case for big fans if needed, looks and size aren't a real big issue to me.
I'd like a quality graphics card also. If I ever have the cash to build the computer, I'll have the cash for a good video card.
Keep 'em dark.
Keep 'em dry.
They should last a while.
Tim, thanks for the info. I'll take a look around newegg and stuff and see what I come up with.
Consumers haven't had CD-Rs and other formats for 20 years, but they had to be getting data on those early CDs somehow, so we must have had recordable cds for near 20 years
/me is going back to bed now :)
JAPANESE FIRM TDK is to make and sell a Blu-Ray based optical disk that will shove data along at a speed of 72Mbps and hold 23.3GB of data.
I've got some Memorex CD-R's here that seem to have a gold tint to them. Are they the good ones as far as CD's go?
I didn't know I was supposed to keep CD's out of the light. All my CD's are getting moved to a dark place immediately!
Does it hurt them to be stored within a foot of a CRT computer monitor?
Prime - I had trouble logging in here today. It wouldn't accept anything, so I had to reregister as Tim instead of Tim_K.
I emailed you about that.
And Thom STILL hasn't emailed me on how to set up the message board for my website! I emailed you on that also. I need Thom's email address, because I don't have it anymore.
Tim.. what's the problem with your forums login? Pm me and Il sort it for you
If you want help setting up a board on your site, let me know. I've done PHPBB2, Vbulletin and Invision