Can I put a Pentium 3 in this computer?
I have a Dell Dimension 2100 desktop system. The Celeron 1.1 does a good job for everything except compiling digital video, which I do on a weekly basis for my Webshow. I've got 384 MB of SDRAM in the computer, and the memory bus is 100 Mhz.
I want to swap in a Pentium 3 processor to speed up the digital video work. But I'm sure I'll have to change something. It can't be as simple as just dropping it in and starting the computer up, can it?
So what would have to change? BIOS version (and give me a link to what I need to get), or anything else also?
Anyone got a 1.1 or higher Pentium 3 laying around that they don't need? It's got to be a Socket 370.
P.S. - I got this computer in December of 2001, and the parts that have date codes are mostly October of 2001, if that means anything for processor selection.
I want to swap in a Pentium 3 processor to speed up the digital video work. But I'm sure I'll have to change something. It can't be as simple as just dropping it in and starting the computer up, can it?
So what would have to change? BIOS version (and give me a link to what I need to get), or anything else also?
Anyone got a 1.1 or higher Pentium 3 laying around that they don't need? It's got to be a Socket 370.
P.S. - I got this computer in December of 2001, and the parts that have date codes are mostly October of 2001, if that means anything for processor selection.
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The good news is that an Athlon XP system can be had for pretty cheap and would be substantially faster
Assuming you put the best P3 you could (1GHz, if what Geeky1 said about the chipset not supporting Tualatin is correct) then you're talking $70 according to pricewatch.com, but I doubt that will give you the extra performance you desire.
If you have a bit more money I'd go with an Athlon XP 2500+ (around $90 at newegg.com) and an NF7 v2.0 (I think that's around $90-100 at newegg) and 512MB of Corsair DDR400 (Value, CAS 2.5) (two 256MB sticks) would be about $106.
Assuming your PS is 350W or better (preferably 400W or better) then you should be fine. If you don't have a soundcard then you might want to get the NF7-S v2.0 which is about $15 more (or thereabouts) than the NF7 v2.0.
Tim, the money you spend on a P3 is not worth it.. trust me... bank it towards an athlon system if you're really concerned about video rendering speed.
Putting a nice PCI graphics card wouldn't help either, as it would probably fuxor up the power requirements.
Plus the memory is limited to a 100 MHz bus, which blows donkey nuts.
Screw dell, build your own computer, it's not that hard.
Actually, I think it was hilarious!
Good stuff!
Where did you find out about the 145W PSU? I didn't see that in his post. Does Dell actually list the wattage of its PSUs?
Aside from digital video, it does pretty good, though.
The power supply is a 145 watt. I saw the label when I had the computer open to raise the memory from 128 MB to 384 MB.
And the "video card", which is on the motherboard, is also pretty bad. I think it's something like 2 or 4 MB. Certainly not more than 8 at the most.
I've done some research, and the plans for my next computer are all made. I'll be building it myself, and it'll have all the good options like: 19" LCD flat panel monitor, 3 Ghz+ Pentium 4 with 800 bus, 2 GB RAM on a 400+ Mhz memory bus, 400 watt power supply, NVIDIA graphics card, Asus or Abit motherboard, AND THEN I'm gonna start overclocking it! I want 4+ Ghz!!!
I only need one thing to build it - money. Anyone got about $1000-2000 to spare?
also, get an ati
/me mumbles under his breath
Whatever you get I sure hope you set it to fold for team 93! -forceasm -advmethods C'mon!
Add this little bit of info to your research. The P4 3.0C & Asus P4C800-E, Abit IS7-G, & IC7-G are the best P4 combos available.
And the Opteron is kicking their butts at 2/3 the clockspeed and 1/2 the power usage!
Put <i>that</i> in your pipe and smoke it!
The Opteron does kick some serious bootay, but since he's doing video encoding, perhaps the video encoding benchmarks would be a bit more important to him. Also, in that area, unfortunately, the Opteron is well behind the p4.
No p4 for me if I can help it!
(Hopefully I can O/C to over 2.4 w/ a better fan. Thrax, you're @ 220FSB right? What voltage do you have on your RAM and what are the timings?)
My Bet is that the Video encoding doesn't properly use the Opteron's SSE2 capabliity and probably defaults to SSE or 3DNow!.
For Video encoding you'll want either Full 64bit programs or Dual CPUs anyway...
(pssssst ....K7D Master & Dual Athlon MP 2800+)
consider this cherry picked Opteron 244 (1.8score)
A Opteron 246 would score ~65 and the announced Opteron 248 would score ~60
For $1-2k, if you're doing serious DV work, a dual athlon system with a lot of ram and a fast storage system is going to be your best bet. What do you want to use the computer for? Just DV, gaming, or what? The use will really determine the configuration. But as I said, if you do a lot of DV stuff, a dual cpu system is going to be much, much faster than a single cpu system, and a Dual Athlon system would be ideal. In fact, as I recall, the Athlons kick the P4's @ss in premiere anyhow...
Yes, that's what I'm talking about, but the last time I saw the picture of it in MaximumPC, it was over 2yrs ago.
I just found a link last night to a place called www.webshowguide.com , which has other shows on it. So now I have more to watch, since www.thesync.com shut down.
1. How much digital video stuff do you do? What I mean is would it be beneficial to have say, 500-600GB of storage space, or is 80-200GB enough?
2. Do you need a modem, or do you have DSL or something?
3. Do you need/want a DVD burner?
4. How important is noise vs. temperature? You can have a relatively quiet P4/Athlon system (no new system will be as quiet as a P3 tho, unless you go with water cooling), but the temperatures will be much higher than a somewhat noisier system. The temperatures wouldn't be too high for the components to handle, just higher than I and a lot of other people on the site are really comfortable with (50-60*C CPU temperatures, for example)
5. How important to you is how it looks and it's size? The reason this is important is simple- bigger computer cases = more fans = better cooling with less noise. If you've got a case that's got space for 2 60mm fans and nothing else, to even approach adequate cooling for a modern system, you'd need 2 8000rpm Delta fans that sound like very angry hairdryers. On the other hand, if you've got a case that can take 5, 6, 7 or more 80mm+ fans, each one can flow very little air, because the total airflow would be more than enough.
Finally, how comfortable are you with modifying a computer case? What I mean is basically using a dremel and/or a hole saw to cut out stamped fan grills...
Take this case, which is one of the ones I was looking @ recommending:
It's got enough cooling potential to handle an overclocked system, but take a look at the fan grills that it has:
Those stamped fan grills are extremely restrictive, and are going to generate much more noise than either no grills or wire grills, and impede airflow... They're not difficult at all to remove, it just requires cutting them out with a hole saw and a drill or a dremel, but if you don't want to do that, then it's going to have an impact on what case I'd recommend...
OC-12 coming straight to the house
Burner? I own a press!
Oh, wait, that's my dream setup . . . nevermind.
Where and how much?!?
//Edit
Found it:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.asp?description=11-130-141&depa=1
/me thinks he sees what might be his next case. WOO HOO.