Its still here. COMP NOT TURNING ON

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  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited October 2005
    lol...try and compromise with your dad. When, Norton expires or whatever, tell your dad to try AVG for a week and see what he thinks after. Remind him that AVG is free so there is nothing to lose but something to gain and once he notices the increase in speed and protection, he'll wonder why he wants McAfee.

    Good Luck and remember to only have one Anti-Virus software :thumbsup:
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    I have no doubt your dad is an intelligent man, but I venture to say his knowledge is not all encompassing. Substituting Norton with McAfee is like switching from Coke to Pepsi, a matter of choice, but the same ingredients and composition (water, sugar, caffeine, cola beans, flavoring). Both McAfee and Norton are resource hogs, with little or no advantage over AVG. I have either allowed to expire or have removed Norton AV from all my computers (three home and personal hard drive for my work laptop). They all run AVG now - securely. LOL, from at least my experience, McAfee is an even a bigger pain than Norton. I am glad though, that your dad is concerned about security. It's hard to believe how many otherwise smart people don't run any internet security software at all! :shakehead
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited October 2005
    Well put, Leonardo. :thumbsup:

    Trumandrummer, maybe you could talk your dad into browsing around our forums a little and checking things out for himself. He might find the results of our Utilties Poll 2005: Anti-Virus to be of interest.

    Either way, (as Leonardo pointed out), it's good to hear that he is concerned about the subject. The millions of totally unprotected computers in the world are a breeding ground for that sort of nonsense and only make life much more difficult for the rest of us.
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    yea, im sure with all this iformation (like the poll and what you guys said) i can convince him (hopefully). if i opne my running processes there is so much stuff. and im sure alot is from nortan. just with one desktop logged on i have like 75 running processes. with to users logged in i have 99. without this ram. my computer is nothing. it was so slow. but so far my computer it turning on and running good (cuz of ram) but what are the chances of this coming back still. and are there any more steps i have to do to completely clean my computer?

    heres a new hijack this log (just incase)

    Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
    Scan saved at 8:01:29 PM, on 10/16/2005
    Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
    MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

    Running processes:
    C:\WINNT\System32\smss.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\winlogon.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\services.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\lsass.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\spoolsv.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\CTsvcCDA.EXE
    C:\Program Files\ewido\security suite\ewidoctrl.exe
    c:\program files\mcafee.com\agent\mcdetect.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MPFSERVICE.exe
    C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
    C:\WINNT\System32\NMSSvc.exe
    C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\IWP\NPFMntor.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~2\NORTON~1\NPROTECT.EXE
    C:\WINNT\System32\nvsvc32.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Lanovation\PrismXL\PRISMXL.SYS
    C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~2\NORTON~1\SPEEDD~1\NOPDB.EXE
    C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
    C:\WINNT\wanmpsvc.exe
    C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
    c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mctskshd.exe
    C:\WINNT\System32\HPHipm11.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\winlogon.exe
    C:\WINNT\Explorer.EXE
    C:\WINNT\system32\SK9910DM.EXE
    C:\WINNT\system32\CTHELPER.EXE
    C:\WINNT\System32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3\hpztsb05.exe
    C:\WINNT\System32\hphmon04.exe
    C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\HP Share-to-Web\hpgs2wnd.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\WkUFind.exe
    C:\Program Files\PhoneTools\CapFax.EXE
    C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_01\bin\jusched.exe
    C:\Program Files\D-Tools\daemon.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
    C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\HP Share-to-Web\hpgs2wnf.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mcagent.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MpfTray.exe
    C:\Program Files\McAfee.com\VSO\mcvsshld.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MskAgent.exe
    C:\Program Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\ctfmon.exe
    c:\progra~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsescn.exe
    C:\Program Files\CursorXP\CursorXP.exe
    C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MpfAgent.exe
    c:\progra~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsftsn.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
    C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Free\avgcc.exe
    C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Free\avgemc.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\mps\mscifapp.exe
    C:\Program Files\Trillian\trillian.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\MOZILL~1\FIREFOX.EXE
    C:\Program Files\ahead\NeroMediaPlayer\NeroMediaPlayer.exe
    C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe
    C:\WINNT\System32\imapi.exe
    C:\hijackthis_199\HijackThis.exe

    R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.gateway.net
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Connection Wizard,ShellNext = http://aimtoday.aol.com/_ads/adsPopup2.htm?0
    O2 - BHO: Yahoo! Companion BHO - {02478D38-C3F9-4efb-9B51-7695ECA05670} - C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\COMPAN~1\Installs\cpn\ycomp5_3_12_0.dll
    O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.ocx
    O2 - BHO: McBrwHelper Class - {227B8AA8-DAF2-4892-BD1D-73F568BCB24E} - c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\mps\mcbrhlpr.dll
    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {243B17DE-77C7-46BF-B94B-0B5F309A0E64} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\mnyside.dll
    O2 - BHO: McAfee PopupKiller - {3EC8255F-E043-4cae-8B3B-B191550C2A22} - c:\program files\mcafee.com\mps\popupkiller.dll
    O2 - BHO: McAfee Anti-Phishing Filter - {41D68ED8-4CFF-4115-88A6-6EBB8AF19000} - c:\program files\mcafee\spamkiller\mcapfbho.dll
    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\SDHelper.dll
    O2 - BHO: NAV Helper - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
    O3 - Toolbar: &Yahoo! Companion - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\COMPAN~1\Installs\cpn\ycomp5_3_12_0.dll
    O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
    O3 - Toolbar: McAfee VirusScan - {BA52B914-B692-46c4-B683-905236F6F655} - c:\progra~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsshl.dll
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Hot Key Kbd 9910 Daemon] SK9910DM.EXE
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE NvQTwk,NvCplDaemon initialize
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [GWMDMpi] C:\WINNT\GWMDMpi.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTHelper] CTHELPER.EXE
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Jet Detection] C:\Program Files\Creative\SBAudigy\PROGRAM\ADGJDet.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HPDJ Taskbar Utility] C:\WINNT\System32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3\hpztsb05.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HPHmon04] C:\WINNT\System32\hphmon04.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HPHUPD04] "C:\Program Files\HP Photosmart 11\hphinstall\UniPatch\hphupd04.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Share-to-Web Namespace Daemon] C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\HP Share-to-Web\hpgs2wnd.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Microsoft Works Update Detection] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\WkUFind.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CapFax] C:\Program Files\PhoneTools\CapFax.EXE
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RealTray] C:\Program Files\Real\RealPlayer\RealPlay.exe SYSTEMBOOTHIDEPLAYER
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_01\bin\jusched.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DAEMON Tools-1033] "C:\Program Files\D-Tools\daemon.exe" -lang 1033
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Symantec NetDriver Monitor] C:\PROGRA~1\SYMNET~1\SNDMon.exe /Consumer
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Documents and Settings\NICKS\Desktop\nicks music\iTunesHelper.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MCAgentExe] c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mcagent.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MCUpdateExe] c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mcupdate.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MPFExe] C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MpfTray.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MPSExe] c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\mps\mscifapp.exe /embedding
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [VSOCheckTask] "C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\VSO\mcmnhdlr.exe" /checktask
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [VirusScan Online] C:\Program Files\McAfee.com\VSO\mcvsshld.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [OASClnt] C:\Program Files\McAfee.com\VSO\oasclnt.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MSKAGENTEXE] C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MskAgent.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RemoteControl] "C:\Program Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_CC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe /STARTUP
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_EMC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINNT\system32\ctfmon.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [CursorXP] C:\Program Files\CursorXP\CursorXP.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background
    O4 - Startup: Adobe Gamma.lnk = C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Calibration\Adobe Gamma Loader.exe
    O4 - Global Startup: HotSync Manager.lnk = C:\Palm\HOTSYNC.EXE
    O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\OSA.EXE
    O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {39FD89BF-D3F1-45b6-BB56-3582CCF489E1} - c:\program files\mcafee\spamkiller\mcapfbho.dll
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: McAfee Anti-Phishing Filter - {39FD89BF-D3F1-45b6-BB56-3582CCF489E1} - c:\program files\mcafee\spamkiller\mcapfbho.dll
    O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmesus.dll
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Yahoo! Messenger - {4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmesus.dll
    O9 - Extra button: Real.com - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} - C:\WINNT\System32\Shdocvw.dll
    O9 - Extra button: MoneySide - {E023F504-0C5A-4750-A1E7-A9046DEA8A21} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\mnyside.dll
    O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    O12 - Plugin for .spop: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Plugins\NPDocBox.dll
    O16 - DPF: RaptisoftGameLoader - http://www.miniclip.com/hamsterball/raptisoftgameloader.cab
    O16 - DPF: {41F17733-B041-4099-A042-B518BB6A408C} - http://a1540.g.akamai.net/7/1540/52/20030530/qtinstall.info.apple.com/bonnie/us/win/QuickTimeInstaller.exe
    O16 - DPF: {4ED9DDF0-7479-4BBE-9335-5A1EDB1D8A21} (McAfee.com Operating System Class) - http://download.mcafee.com/molbin/shared/mcinsctl/4,0,0,99/mcinsctl.cab
    O16 - DPF: {6F750200-1362-4815-A476-88533DE61D0C} (Ofoto Upload Manager Class) - http://www.ofoto.com/downloads/BUM/BUM_WIN_IE_1/axofupld.cab
    O16 - DPF: {9A9307A0-7DA4-4DAF-B042-5009F29E09E1} (ActiveScan Installer Class) - http://acs.pandasoftware.com/activescan/as5free/asinst.cab
    O16 - DPF: {B38870E4-7ECB-40DA-8C6A-595F0A5519FF} (MsnMessengerSetupDownloadControl Class) - http://messenger.msn.com/download/MsnMessengerSetupDownloader.cab
    O16 - DPF: {B9191F79-5613-4C76-AA2A-398534BB8999} (YAddBook Class) - http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yahoo.com/dl/installs/suite/yautocomplete.cab
    O16 - DPF: {CE28D5D2-60CF-4C7D-9FE8-0F47A3308078} (ActiveDataInfo Class) - http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/SymAData.cab
    O16 - DPF: {E77C0D62-882A-456F-AD8F-7C6C9569B8C7} (ActiveDataObj Class) - https://www-secure.symantec.com/techsupp/activedata/ActiveData.cab
    O23 - Service: Adobe LM Service - Adobe Systems - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe Systems Shared\Service\Adobelmsvc.exe
    O23 - Service: AVG7 Alert Manager Server (Avg7Alrt) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
    O23 - Service: AVG7 Update Service (Avg7UpdSvc) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec Password Validation (ccPwdSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccPwdSvc.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec Settings Manager (ccSetMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
    O23 - Service: Creative Service for CDROM Access - Creative Technology Ltd - C:\WINNT\system32\CTsvcCDA.EXE
    O23 - Service: ewido security suite control - ewido networks - C:\Program Files\ewido\security suite\ewidoctrl.exe
    O23 - Service: iPod Service (iPodService) - Apple Computer, Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
    O23 - Service: Macromedia Licensing Service - Macromedia - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Macromedia Shared\Service\Macromedia Licensing.exe
    O23 - Service: McAfee WSC Integration (McDetect.exe) - McAfee, Inc - c:\program files\mcafee.com\agent\mcdetect.exe
    O23 - Service: McAfee.com McShield (McShield) - McAfee Inc. - c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcshield.exe
    O23 - Service: McAfee Task Scheduler (McTskshd.exe) - McAfee, Inc - c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mctskshd.exe
    O23 - Service: McAfee SecurityCenter Update Manager (mcupdmgr.exe) - McAfee, Inc - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\Agent\mcupdmgr.exe
    O23 - Service: McAfee Personal Firewall Service (MpfService) - McAfee Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MPFSERVICE.exe
    O23 - Service: McAfee SpamKiller Server (MskService) - McAfee Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MSKSrvr.exe
    O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect Service (navapsvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
    O23 - Service: Intel(R) NMS (NMSSvc) - Intel Corporation - C:\WINNT\System32\NMSSvc.exe
    O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Firewall Monitor Service (NPFMntor) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\IWP\NPFMntor.exe
    O23 - Service: Norton Unerase Protection (NProtectService) - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~2\NORTON~1\NPROTECT.EXE
    O23 - Service: NVIDIA Driver Helper Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINNT\System32\nvsvc32.exe
    O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPH11 - HP - C:\WINNT\System32\HPHipm11.exe
    O23 - Service: PrismXL - Lanovation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Lanovation\PrismXL\PRISMXL.SYS
    O23 - Service: SAVScan - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\SAVScan.exe
    O23 - Service: ScriptBlocking Service (SBService) - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\SCRIPT~1\SBServ.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec Network Drivers Service (SNDSrvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec SPBBCSvc (SPBBCSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe
    O23 - Service: Speed Disk service - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~2\NORTON~1\SPEEDD~1\NOPDB.EXE
    O23 - Service: Symantec Core LC - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
    O23 - Service: WAN Miniport (ATW) Service (WANMiniportService) - America Online, Inc. - C:\WINNT\wanmpsvc.exe
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    ok thanx alot guys i convinced my dad. the only thing he wants to know is if it would be worth it to buy a professional verison of avg? is it gonna be better than avg free?
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited October 2005
    ...the only thing he wants to know is if it would be worth it to buy a professional verison of avg? is it gonna be better than avg free?
    The paid version gives you more versatility for customising a few things, most notable scheduling full system scans. I do all my virus scanning manually, being somewhat of a night owl I don't want something popping up at 3AM while I'm doing other things. The default setting in the free version is for a daily scan in the wee hours of the night. Things like definition updates are automatic - and free - for life; none of this annual paid subscription business.

    I've always wondered how AVG stays in business. Apparantly their corporate customers are footing the bill for the rest of us. The bottom line is that the free version should be just fine. That's what I am using on all my computers, plus those of the rest of my family. :)
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    Best I can make out, the free addition provides the same scanning engine as the pro version. I believe the pro version's scanning operation has more options; but the effectiveness, I believe, is not any better. AVG does not allow commercial or institutional use of the free version. If it's for business use, AVG wants the customer to pay for their service (and I think that's completely reasonable).

    AVG's virus definitions are rock solid - they work, but are not updated as often as Norton's or McAfee's. Your system will be secure though, if you do not miss updates. Not a problem; just set the AVG console to automatically poll for and download updates. Yes, I know, another service in the background, but one that requires a barely measurable amount of system resources.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited October 2005
    Leonardo wrote:
    ...Yes, I know, another service in the background, but one that requires a barely measurable amount of system resources.
    You can say that again.

    Compare this to Norton - this is everything AVG will run:
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    well i was trying to unsinstall some of mcaffe. cuz i didnt want the privacy service all i wanted was mcaffe firewall. but it wouldnt uninstall at all. i had to go into safe mode to unistall it. then when i restarted my computer to go into normal mode. it did that thing again. telling me to set my computer back. also since ive had the "veiw all hidden folders" checked there is a file on my desktop called. ~$umstuff.rtf , is this bad. it seems so rediculas lol.?
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    ?
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited October 2005
    ...then when i restarted my computer to go into normal mode. it did that thing again. telling me to set my computer back...
    I'm not 100% sure about this particular situation, but most (good) Anti-Virus programs will warn you if they are being turned off or uninstalled. There are viruses which try to disable your A-V program so they can get on with their dirty work unimpeded.

    Make sure there are no references to McAfee in your startup group by clicking Start>>Run, then typing msconfig in the box and saying "OK". Uncheck anything referring to McAffee (or any other program you no longer wish to have loaded automatically at startup). You'll get a reminder after you reboot that you've used the configuration utility to disable stuff. If everything is as you want it to be you can check the box marked "Don't warn me..." and it will go away for good.

    I would recommend using the built-in Windows Firewall, since this will allow you to get rid of McAfee altogether. Make sure you go into the Windows Security Center and update your Firewall settings and the A-V settings.

    If you still have traces of old programs (like McAfee) popping up, let us know and we'll point you to a good registry cleanup tool.
    ...checked there is a file on my desktop called. ~$umstuff.rtf , is this bad. it seems so rediculas lol.?
    I'd just delete it.

    Those are usually temporary files that for whatever reason didn't go away when they were supposed to. If you open a Word document you'll see something very similar while the document is open. Once you close it it should go away.
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    well mcaffe never came back up. but i couldnt find any mcaffe things on start-up. unless they have weird names that i wouldnt think of.
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    and when my comp WAS worse it would freeze and i would have to reboot. idk if this is normal but once i rebooted and it showed that screen with a running precess and it says "end now" well the file was like @#$^!% and a bunch of alt writing, then Mcaffe !$%^. i was like wtf is that. and it never happened since then. it was very weird.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited October 2005
    I know it's going to feel like you're back where you started...

    ...but a HijackThis log would be the easiest way for us to spot anything leftover which shouldn't be there. :p

    You could also download RegCleaner and delete all references to McAfee from the list (unles you are still using the McAfee Firewall). Careful - remove the wrong thing(s) and you'll be sorry - if in doubt, ask first. :eek:

    If you still have problems, re-open RegCleaner, then click on Tools>>Registry Cleanup>>Do Them All, put a check next to everything it finds and delete the works.
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    k im running hijack this right now. but avg poped up saying "autoPOP3:conectin to d211-31-180-47.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au" what is that. it wont go away now. it does that with my pop 3 mail but it doesnt have the website.its real messed up.
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
    Scan saved at 9:06:56 PM, on 10/18/2005
    Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
    MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

    Running processes:
    C:\WINNT\System32\smss.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\winlogon.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\services.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\lsass.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\spoolsv.exe
    C:\WINNT\Explorer.EXE
    C:\WINNT\system32\SK9910DM.EXE
    C:\WINNT\system32\CTHELPER.EXE
    C:\WINNT\System32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3\hpztsb05.exe
    C:\WINNT\System32\hphmon04.exe
    C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\HP Share-to-Web\hpgs2wnd.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\WkUFind.exe
    C:\Program Files\PhoneTools\CapFax.EXE
    C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_01\bin\jusched.exe
    C:\Program Files\D-Tools\daemon.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
    C:\Documents and Settings\NICKS\Desktop\nicks music\iTunesHelper.exe
    C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\HP Share-to-Web\hpgs2wnf.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MpfTray.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MskAgent.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\CTsvcCDA.EXE
    C:\Program Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\ctfmon.exe
    C:\Program Files\ewido\security suite\ewidoctrl.exe
    C:\Program Files\CursorXP\CursorXP.exe
    C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    c:\program files\mcafee.com\agent\mcdetect.exe
    c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mctskshd.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MpfAgent.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MPFSERVICE.exe
    C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
    C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\IWP\NPFMntor.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~2\NORTON~1\NPROTECT.EXE
    C:\WINNT\System32\nvsvc32.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Lanovation\PrismXL\PRISMXL.SYS
    C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~2\NORTON~1\SPEEDD~1\NOPDB.EXE
    C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
    C:\WINNT\wanmpsvc.exe
    C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
    C:\WINNT\System32\HPHipm11.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
    C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Free\avgcc.exe
    C:\WINNT\system32\winlogon.exe
    C:\Program Files\Trillian\trillian.exe
    C:\Program Files\Roxio\Easy CD Creator 5\Easy CD Creator\Creatr50.exe
    C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
    C:\Program Files\Azureus\Azureus.exe
    C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_01\bin\javaw.exe
    C:\Program Files\Creative\MediaSource\CTCMS.exe
    C:\Program Files\Creative\MediaSource\Detector\CTDetect.exe
    C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Free\avgemc.exe
    C:\hijackthis_199\HijackThis.exe

    R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.gateway.net
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Connection Wizard,ShellNext = http://aimtoday.aol.com/_ads/adsPopup2.htm?0
    O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.ocx
    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {243B17DE-77C7-46BF-B94B-0B5F309A0E64} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\mnyside.dll
    O2 - BHO: McAfee Anti-Phishing Filter - {41D68ED8-4CFF-4115-88A6-6EBB8AF19000} - c:\program files\mcafee\spamkiller\mcapfbho.dll
    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\SDHelper.dll
    O2 - BHO: UberButton Class - {5BAB4B5B-68BC-4B02-94D6-2FC0DE4A7897} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common\yiesrvc.dll
    O2 - BHO: YahooTaggedBM Class - {65D886A2-7CA7-479B-BB95-14D1EFB7946A} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common\YIeTagBm.dll
    O2 - BHO: CNavExtBho Class - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
    O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
    O3 - Toolbar: Yahoo! Toolbar - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn0\yt.dll
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Hot Key Kbd 9910 Daemon] SK9910DM.EXE
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE NvQTwk,NvCplDaemon initialize
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [GWMDMpi] C:\WINNT\GWMDMpi.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTHelper] CTHELPER.EXE
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Jet Detection] C:\Program Files\Creative\SBAudigy\PROGRAM\ADGJDet.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HPDJ Taskbar Utility] C:\WINNT\System32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3\hpztsb05.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HPHmon04] C:\WINNT\System32\hphmon04.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HPHUPD04] "C:\Program Files\HP Photosmart 11\hphinstall\UniPatch\hphupd04.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Share-to-Web Namespace Daemon] C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\HP Share-to-Web\hpgs2wnd.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Microsoft Works Update Detection] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\WkUFind.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CapFax] C:\Program Files\PhoneTools\CapFax.EXE
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_01\bin\jusched.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DAEMON Tools-1033] "C:\Program Files\D-Tools\daemon.exe" -lang 1033
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Symantec NetDriver Monitor] C:\PROGRA~1\SYMNET~1\SNDMon.exe /Consumer
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MCAgentExe] c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mcagent.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MCUpdateExe] c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mcupdate.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MPFExe] C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MpfTray.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MSKAGENTEXE] C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MskAgent.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RemoteControl] "C:\Program Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_CC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe /STARTUP
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MSConfig] C:\WINNT\PCHealth\HelpCtr\Binaries\MSConfig.exe /auto
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_EMC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINNT\system32\ctfmon.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [CursorXP] C:\Program Files\CursorXP\CursorXP.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background
    O4 - Startup: Adobe Gamma.lnk = C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Calibration\Adobe Gamma Loader.exe
    O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\OSA.EXE
    O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {39FD89BF-D3F1-45b6-BB56-3582CCF489E1} - c:\program files\mcafee\spamkiller\mcapfbho.dll
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: McAfee Anti-Phishing Filter - {39FD89BF-D3F1-45b6-BB56-3582CCF489E1} - c:\program files\mcafee\spamkiller\mcapfbho.dll
    O9 - Extra button: Yahoo! Services - {5BAB4B5B-68BC-4B02-94D6-2FC0DE4A7897} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common\yiesrvc.dll
    O9 - Extra button: Real.com - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} - C:\WINNT\System32\Shdocvw.dll
    O9 - Extra button: MoneySide - {E023F504-0C5A-4750-A1E7-A9046DEA8A21} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\mnyside.dll
    O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    O12 - Plugin for .spop: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Plugins\NPDocBox.dll
    O16 - DPF: RaptisoftGameLoader - http://www.miniclip.com/hamsterball/raptisoftgameloader.cab
    O16 - DPF: {30528230-99F7-4BB4-88D8-FA1D4F56A2AB} (YInstStarter Class) - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common\yinsthelper.dll
    O16 - DPF: {41F17733-B041-4099-A042-B518BB6A408C} - http://a1540.g.akamai.net/7/1540/52/20030530/qtinstall.info.apple.com/bonnie/us/win/QuickTimeInstaller.exe
    O16 - DPF: {4ED9DDF0-7479-4BBE-9335-5A1EDB1D8A21} (McAfee.com Operating System Class) - http://download.mcafee.com/molbin/shared/mcinsctl/4,0,0,99/mcinsctl.cab
    O16 - DPF: {6F750200-1362-4815-A476-88533DE61D0C} (Ofoto Upload Manager Class) - http://www.ofoto.com/downloads/BUM/BUM_WIN_IE_1/axofupld.cab
    O16 - DPF: {9A9307A0-7DA4-4DAF-B042-5009F29E09E1} (ActiveScan Installer Class) - http://acs.pandasoftware.com/activescan/as5free/asinst.cab
    O16 - DPF: {B38870E4-7ECB-40DA-8C6A-595F0A5519FF} (MsnMessengerSetupDownloadControl Class) - http://messenger.msn.com/download/MsnMessengerSetupDownloader.cab
    O16 - DPF: {B9191F79-5613-4C76-AA2A-398534BB8999} (YAddBook Class) - http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yahoo.com/dl/installs/suite/yautocomplete.cab
    O16 - DPF: {CE28D5D2-60CF-4C7D-9FE8-0F47A3308078} (ActiveDataInfo Class) - http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/SymAData.cab
    O16 - DPF: {E77C0D62-882A-456F-AD8F-7C6C9569B8C7} (ActiveDataObj Class) - https://www-secure.symantec.com/techsupp/activedata/ActiveData.cab
    O23 - Service: Adobe LM Service - Adobe Systems - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe Systems Shared\Service\Adobelmsvc.exe
    O23 - Service: AVG7 Alert Manager Server (Avg7Alrt) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
    O23 - Service: AVG7 Update Service (Avg7UpdSvc) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec Password Validation (ccPwdSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccPwdSvc.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec Settings Manager (ccSetMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
    O23 - Service: Creative Service for CDROM Access - Creative Technology Ltd - C:\WINNT\system32\CTsvcCDA.EXE
    O23 - Service: ewido security suite control - ewido networks - C:\Program Files\ewido\security suite\ewidoctrl.exe
    O23 - Service: iPod Service (iPodService) - Apple Computer, Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
    O23 - Service: Macromedia Licensing Service - Macromedia - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Macromedia Shared\Service\Macromedia Licensing.exe
    O23 - Service: McAfee WSC Integration (McDetect.exe) - McAfee, Inc - c:\program files\mcafee.com\agent\mcdetect.exe
    O23 - Service: McAfee.com McShield (McShield) - Unknown owner - c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcshield.exe (file missing)
    O23 - Service: McAfee Task Scheduler (McTskshd.exe) - McAfee, Inc - c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mctskshd.exe
    O23 - Service: McAfee SecurityCenter Update Manager (mcupdmgr.exe) - McAfee, Inc - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\Agent\mcupdmgr.exe
    O23 - Service: McAfee Personal Firewall Service (MpfService) - McAfee Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MPFSERVICE.exe
    O23 - Service: McAfee SpamKiller Server (MskService) - McAfee Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MSKSrvr.exe
    O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect Service (navapsvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
    O23 - Service: Intel(R) NMS (NMSSvc) - Intel Corporation - C:\WINNT\System32\NMSSvc.exe
    O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Firewall Monitor Service (NPFMntor) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\IWP\NPFMntor.exe
    O23 - Service: Norton Unerase Protection (NProtectService) - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~2\NORTON~1\NPROTECT.EXE
    O23 - Service: NVIDIA Driver Helper Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINNT\System32\nvsvc32.exe
    O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPH11 - HP - C:\WINNT\System32\HPHipm11.exe
    O23 - Service: PrismXL - Lanovation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Lanovation\PrismXL\PRISMXL.SYS
    O23 - Service: SAVScan - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\SAVScan.exe
    O23 - Service: ScriptBlocking Service (SBService) - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\SCRIPT~1\SBServ.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec Network Drivers Service (SNDSrvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec SPBBCSvc (SPBBCSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe
    O23 - Service: Speed Disk service - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~2\NORTON~1\SPEEDD~1\NOPDB.EXE
    O23 - Service: Symantec Core LC - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
    O23 - Service: WAN Miniport (ATW) Service (WANMiniportService) - America Online, Inc. - C:\WINNT\wanmpsvc.exe
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    O23 - Service: McAfee.com McShield (McShield) - Unknown owner - c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcshield.exe (file missing) is that a bad entrie? seems weird to me. ?

    also this one seems bad to me

    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {243B17DE-77C7-46BF-B94B-0B5F309A0E64} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\mnyside.dll

    but i know NOTHING about this thats why im asking, is that one bad to? because the same thing is also in this 09 entri

    O9 - Extra button: MoneySide - {E023F504-0C5A-4750-A1E7-A9046DEA8A21} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\mnyside.dll
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited October 2005
    I don't think mnyside.dll is a problem.

    The mcshield.exe entry looks like it probably is the one giving you the error messages, since it's part of the (now uninstalled) McAfee A-V program.

    Either way, make sure you are running HijackThis from its own folder so your backups will be handy. :)
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited October 2005
    And to add that the 023 entry is completely safe. HJT has a bug were is lists 'File Missing' and does not remove it.
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    hmmmmm, man i just cant figure it out. and it happens so unexpectedly. i know its a virus. because my freind got it from me. and i never sent them files or anything. but now their computer does the same exact thing on start up. i just hope it doesnt come back like it did that last 2-3 times :confused:
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited October 2005
    Hey Trumandrummer, can you explain whats happening so we can get a clearer picture please :)
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    ok. when i first notcied it. my computer got slow. everything i brought up got stuck . if i clicked the start menu and clicked somewhere els it was also stuck. and it didnt go away. so i restarted my computer. everthing was goign find. says windows xp. has the blue loading bar moving. then it stops says "power saving mode" then goes to the screen that says that a file or a sofware change. go to safe mode, safe mode with networking, or set computer back to a recent time, or start windows normally (tried, doesnt work) heres the pic(s) again

    Picture6363794.jpg

    Picture6363793.jpg


    now somehow my freind got the same thing. i never sent them a file transfer or anything but it happening to them now. but i do realize that after i had all the problems with aim. and how someone or some computer kept sending me links and files. but i never clicked them accept for once on accident. well they said they have the same problem with aim. so basically they are going through the same thing i am. very weird/ frustrating. even thought my computer has been fine the past week. it was fine like a week ago. and one day i restarted and it did it again. thats why i brought this topic back up. its just frustrating :mad:
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited October 2005
    I doubt its a virus but can you do the following scans and post the results of each please.

    ---Anti-Virus scans---
    Panda Activescan
    BitDefender Virus Scan

    ---Trojan Scan---
    Trojan Scanner
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    k man thanx, ill run those. thats the one thing. i was thinkin maybe a hardware issue. but how come it happened right after i cli ked the link, and how does my freind end up with the same thing. its so weird. lol
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited October 2005
    I doubt the AIM Virus would do this. As for your friend having the same problems, its maybe a coincidence :)
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    yea, i know. its just weird. and now trillian keeps signing me off and then back on like every 5 minutes for no reason. i just dont understand why it would do that. it cant be normal.
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited October 2005
    Have you run the scans yet?
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    well so far ive ran the trojan scan and found nothing. have yet to do the other ones. lives busy this time of year . lol
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    its getting serious :bawling: . i restarted my computer today only to see that screen once again. but its worse. everytime it happens avg gets messed up and i have to reinstall it. well this time i unistalled it (restarted like recomended. computer turned on fine) then re installed it. but viruse updates wouldnt work. it said i have to restart my computer to finish the updates. well when i restart again , that screen comes up and i have to start over from scratch. that screen comes up EVERY OTHER TIME i restart my computer. making it nearly impossible for me to install avg and get updates now. and i just got rid of nortan, so needless to say ................ im unprotected. what should i do? is it possible that whatever virus WAS on my comp messed up a system file? or shoud i go to the hardware forum for this?
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited October 2005
    Look through your list of Services and see if any of them are related to components of Norton/Symantec, McAfee, or any other software you are sure you no longer have installed. If so, Disable them.

    I say "sure", because while you may have gotten rid of the A-V software you may still be running other software (like a firewall) from the same company. If in doubt - ask first! :)

    AVG just released an update to the software itself, which is why you are being asked to reboot. You may want to download the latest version and start over, since it seems that the update is causing you grief.
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