Opteron 170 Experiment
Well, with all the hoopla about the new socket 939 Opterons I decided to try out one of the new dual core Opti's in my Epox board. I just ordered it from the Egg and hopefully it will be in by around Tuesday of next week. Even though the Opteron microcode isn't specifically written into the bios I think it should work with no problems as the board will run an X2 with no problems. I'm curious to see what kind of overclock I can get out of it, since I've been reading of some really good overclocks on the DC Opti procs. 
I just might have an X2 4400 up for sale real soon if the Opti works out OK. Will make a good deal on it too.
I just might have an X2 4400 up for sale real soon if the Opti works out OK. Will make a good deal on it too.
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Can't wait.. keep us posted mudd
Chris, what price increase are you talking about? AFAIK, the retail Opti 170 has been around $400 for a while. As far as default multi is concerned, it should be a 10, since it's a 2.0 GHz part. The 175 is the 2.2 GHz version and the 165 is the 1.8 GHz version.
Hell I think I'm gettin a semi!
I was just reading at xtremesystems where this guy is claiming to run 3.2g on that proc and that ram but on the dfi. 270 @ 3-3-2-8
http://209.58.227.163/forums/showthread.php?t=76672&page=4
I was in the middle of filling out the order form and I stopped myself. Damn this it tough. I just know I'll regret it if I don't order now cause prices on the good stuff are jumping left and right and supplies are dwindling on everything.
I'll wait and see if newegg puts them up on black friday.
chit
As far as the Mushkin goes, it will do 250 fsb at it's programed spd timings of 3-3-2-8 with no problems, but doesn't seem to have much extra headroom. I tried to go to 260 fsb and memtest gave massive errors. I then went down to 257 MHz in 1 MHz increments, where it gave just 6 errors in 1 pass on test 7. I had dropped the multi back to minimise any problems caused by an overclocked processor while doing this. I then gave up memtesting and went ahead and booted up to see how it would fold.
What about the Crucial Ballistic 4000 ram, Mack? Have you messed with it any or do you know about how it's holding up? It seems from what I've read that it seems to be hit or miss, holding up over time, from what I've read. I would love to get the OCZ EB Plats, but according to their forums they are having problems getting the chips and from what csimon posted, it sounds like Atacom is trying to butt**** everyone on price too. IMO, it's a crying shame that OCZ has chosen some crap company like Atacom to be their leadoff vendor for new products. :shakehead OCZ would be smart to do like Mushkin and also sell direct to the customer, IMO.
About the Opti procs, you might be right Mack. I've been reading that AMD is most probably going to pull them from the retail channel and just sell them to systems integrators because they want to differentiate the workstation and desktop lines (which sounds like doubletalk saying they are robbing sales from their overpriced X2 line to me). So if you all want to get either single or dual core socket 939 Opteron, it might be smart to buy it now. BTW, this info is coming from the owner of Tankguys, posted in a thread at the overclockers.com forums. He say that this information is being given to his distributor directly from an AMD sales rep. Here's the post he notes this information.
I'm glad i bought a kit when they come as well cause i had a feeling they would get popular.
Can you throw up a A64 tweaker? You do know that the 4000 Mushkin is their PC2700 Value part originally right?
I don't think these are the ram you are thinking of, Mack. This is something new they came out with recently and I think they are using the Infineon CE-6 chips on it. I do know that Mushkin also has another PC4000 2 GB kit with looser timings than these Redline 4000's I have.
I'll have to download an updated A64 Tweaker on that machine first, Mack. It's been a dedicated cruncher for the last year or so, until my latest upgrade on it. It will become my main rig though, since I've dropped the 170 in it and I also have an X800XT-PE to put in it for a decent vid card. I also have a new case and hard drive for it I'm getting for Christmas too. Let me go download the Tweaker, then I'll post a screenie.
Leo, with 2 p1481's on it that machine is averaging almost 950 points/day folding rate.
ok ...someone convince me not to order the 170 or it's a done deal w/in the next hour.
EDIT: I'm running 2T timings because this 9NDA3+ doesn't seem to like 1T with my DC procs (either one). With that said, I actually haven't tried 1T with this ram, just the previous 2 pairs of ram I had in the board (PC4000VX and Value VX).
It's a done deal! I got the OEM for $410 + $3.99 shipped. I have a mail-in rebate for pc-mag or some crap like that worth $19.95 so essentially I payed $390.05 for this opti. Still not the $356.00 since the price gouge but hey ...I may have missed out altogether if I had waited any longer.
What stepping did you get? These babies at 2.9 ghz/core would do damage on the folding charts. I'm THIS close ordering one myself. Anyone know the stepping of the 175 contra the 170 at monarch, newegg etc?
E6 stepping.
mudd, I don't think you can give that Redline enough voltage to make it run @ spec with your Epox board.
Mudd, to the left in the tweaker:
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3 link Frequency (you must have 3 or less above 250)
The right:
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Try that and see. If you have old chips, they may like 2.9 volts. My first kit is one of the first that we released and they like 2.9 volts while the newer kit i have, likes 2.65-2.7 better.
The vdimm voltmod on your board is very easy if you can't get more volts.
pft I cancelled the order first thing when I woke up this morning and got this instead.
AMD Opteron 175 Dual-Core 2.2GHz 1MB (per core) 64/32-Bit (939) (OEM) $461.63 + $5.90 Shipping.
Go for it Larry ...heck it's christmas!
I'm after the higher multi for some Phase action. 200mhz more stock speed for $50 isn't a bad deal either.
Edit: The steppings people have got within the last weeks from monarch are:
CCBWE 0530TPMW (YAY if we get this one, best week ever)
Mine hasn't shipped yet ...I hope we get something decent cause the outlook at xs doesn't look that good. They've got to be out of week 30 by now ...what week are we in anyway?
I got a CCBWE 0541 RPMW. As far as overclocking to 2.9, I have a feeling this one won't though.
I did find out recently that they don't clock as well on the DFI as they do on the Asus Premium. 280 was 3d stable on the Asus. Can't get more than 267 on the DFI. I wonder what the Asus could do with BH5 and a vdimm mod/booster. Hmmm. Infineon=Winbond. X-Files?
OK, I pushed the button on mine.
Week 39 should be in the food chain about now.
BTW
I'm thinking this may be #4 as opposed to just upgrading an existing CPU.
Who knows what week we will get ...cause mine still hasn't shipped and may not til next week.