Well, Intel's just smacked the crap outta AMD.

TemplarTemplar You first.
edited October 2003 in Hardware
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11785

5-7 Ghz, 4000mhz FSB (that's not a typo), 2mb+ Cache. Now get this, they stack like... lego's for 64bit architecture. All this about mid 2004 :D

Not to mention the (edit) 10.2ghz Nehalem in 2005 :o
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  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    4000Mhz fsb? If it seems too good to be true, it probably is :)

    Besides, you KNOW that's got to be a DDR or QDR setup, there's no way it'll run at 4000 REAL Mhz. Not that 1000 mhz fsb wouldn't be a great accomplishment though.
  • AnimalAnimal
    edited September 2003
    it will probably run equaly to the top Athlon FX at that time......
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    7GHz using a 42 stage pipeline with an IPC of .000002, featuring non-existent memory, or a grossly inefficient octuple-pumped bus, and 2mb+ of l2 cache on a grossly oversized .09u core requiring more power than a 1970 fuse box and radiating more heat than a 60w lightbulb!

    Chip stacking...Sigh. Way to place ultra-hot air pockets between overly-hot chips. Can you imagine the price of these half-assed 64 bit chips?

    <b>New Intel Pentium V Duo feat. Hyperthreading IX, 4mb l2 cache, netSUPERBURST cache, 64bit architecture - $2100 bundle</b>

    GG Intel.
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Thrax said
    7GHz using a 42 stage pipeline with an IPC of .000002, featuring non-existent memory, or a grossly inefficient octuple-pumped bus, and 2mb+ of l2 cache on a grossly oversized .09u core requiring more power than a 1970 fuse box and radiating more heat than a 60w lightbulb!

    Chip stacking...Sigh. Way to place ultra-hot air pockets between overly-hot chips. Can you imagine the price of these half-assed 64 bit chips?

    <b>New Intel Pentium V Duo feat. Hyperthreading IX, 4mb l2 cache, netSUPERBURST cache, 64bit architecture - $2100 bundle</b>

    GG Intel.
    Yet another reason Thrax has the best post of anyone! :respect:
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    I just realized that it wasn't much of an exaggeration. If it took 20 stages in a pipeline to hit 3.4GHz or so, it'd take approximately 40 stages to hit almost 7GHz...w00t!
  • MediaManMediaMan Powered by loose parts.
    edited September 2003
    Even if the chip fails to make it to reality in the next, what they say, 3 months.....it's a rumor with a knife. Just the thought of it will slice into AMD as people will say "why buy a 2.? Ghz AMD 64 now when just a short time away is something 3-4 times as fast."

    theoretically.


    Call this a marketing bomb that *ntel dropped on AMD.
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    MediaMan said
    Even if the chip fails to make it to reality in the next, what they say, 3 months.....it's a rumor with a knife. Just the thought of it will slice into AMD as people will say "why buy a 2.? Ghz AMD 64 now when just a short time away is something 3-4 times as fast."

    theoretically.


    Call this a marketing bomb that *ntel dropped on AMD.

    Good post. Thats exactly what AMD have done with all their paper-launches. (their paper-launches have been official, thats the only difference) . Now they have to taste their own medicine in a way. If i had the money and i was ready to buy a 3 ghz FX and this statement about a 7ghz chip was official, i would consider waiting.
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited September 2003
    Forgive me for not getting overly enthused, and, in fact, actually doubting this.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Not that 1000 mhz fsb wouldn't be a great accomplishment though

    "Quad pumped" 1000MHz FSB is already here with only minor overclocking. See System 1 below. 4000 real FSB, well, that's a pipe dream (pardon the pun).:rolleyes2

    Hey Thrax, what do you bet Thermaltake is already designing and working out a marketing tactic for another Super Dooper, Stupendous, Nuclear Powered, King of the World, Best-Overclocker-Evar Wonder Orb CPU cooler, to tame this fantasy Intel beast? :eek2:
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    ...
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    I don't want the dang cooler if it doesn't come bundled with a 450CFM, 187dB Delta screamer fan.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    It's got two of those inside!
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Leonardo said
    Not that 1000 mhz fsb wouldn't be a great accomplishment though

    "Quad pumped" 1000MHz FSB is already here with only minor overclocking. See System 1 below. 4000 real FSB, well, that's a pipe dream (pardon the pun).:rolleyes2

    Isnt it 250 fsb quad-bumped now for 1000 in total? Quad-bumped 1000 fsb is a little different.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Mackanz, you are correct.

    Current 1000 FSB is 250MHz x 4 (DDR500).

    We're talking something approximately 40% faster than the fastest DDRII-667 chips (333.66MHz actual). DDRII-1000..Cough..impossible by then..cough.
  • WuGgaRoOWuGgaRoO Not in the shower Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    the stackable thing...i dont get it...wouldnt the die of one of them become wayyyy overcooked?

    or are they going to use something like heatpipe technology in order to transport the heat efficently
  • ArmoArmo Mr. Nice Guy Is Dead,Only Aqua Remains Member
    edited September 2003
    they have been developing the prescott for about 3 years now, last time i heard it was only supposed to push 4-5 ghz and 1mb l2, its supposed to be the size of a dime too, or at least when i read it
  • ArmoArmo Mr. Nice Guy Is Dead,Only Aqua Remains Member
    edited September 2003
    wtf am i like a conversation disrupter?
    ive noticed after i post a thread it takes like week for any 1 to say anything
  • MediaManMediaMan Powered by loose parts.
    edited September 2003
    It's just that scary sig you got going...frightens people away. :eek2:

    Why doesn't Thermaltake just get a hold of the ceramic heat shielding material that the space shuttle uses and go with that. No fan needed. Can take 8,000,000,000,000,000,000 degrees yet you can hold it in your hand.

    The problem with a 7, 8 or 10 GHz processor is it is like putting a dragster engine in a Pinto. The only way you can truly benefit is if the rest of the system catches up. We know that video cards and ram will have the faster pipelines....but here comes the boat anchor...the hard drive. SATA won't do much, RAID 0 SATA won't do much.

    Until someone comes up with an affordable mainstream hard drive that can push 1 GB/sec transfer speeds....the data will remain coming off the drives just the same and windows won't boot much faster.

    Although I think we'll rip those DVDs a bit faster. :)
  • croc_croc_ New
    edited September 2003
    Pentium 4 type-r 16valve dohc vtec with nitrous?
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Pentium 4 type-r 16valve dohc vtec with nitrous?

    Don't forget the ground affects package that scrapes the ground over anything higher than a fallen leaf.
  • KhaosKhaos New Hampshire
    edited September 2003
    Oh man, that leaf just ripped the tinfoil off my Folgers Type-R exhaust TIPS. :(
  • TemplarTemplar You first.
    edited September 2003
    Khaos said
    Oh man, that leaf just ripped the tinfoil off my Folgers Type-R exhaust TIPS. :(

    Pwned :D
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited September 2003
    You could be running with housing gutters for the ground-effects . . . you know, if you want to be hip and all.
  • ArmoArmo Mr. Nice Guy Is Dead,Only Aqua Remains Member
    edited September 2003
    MediaMan said
    It's just that scary sig you got going...frightens people away. :eek2:

    im not scaww-e its the misfits, they are scary :)

    dont yall know who the misfits are?! i bet u heard them and didnt know it, every 1 knwos the misfits, Last Carress?? American Psycho?? Hybrid Moments?
  • croc_croc_ New
    edited September 2003
    Don't hate on body kits! I work for a body kit company. :P
  • MediaManMediaMan Powered by loose parts.
    edited September 2003
    errr...this thread is wandering a bit off topic.

    /mm gives it a thump in the right direction.
  • ArmoArmo Mr. Nice Guy Is Dead,Only Aqua Remains Member
    edited September 2003
    1 time at band camp......


    naw but i wanna see what kind of HS this kind of processor is gonna need.
  • kanezfankanezfan sunny south florida Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    this is just crap, intel trying to rain on AMD's parade.
  • GobblesGobbles Ventura California
    edited September 2003
    well I never presume anything as you never know what engineers at either camp have hidden away in the darkest recesses of the R&D labs...

    The next few years are going to be exciting is all I can say..

    :)
  • FAH_WWFAH_WW Training in Indianapolis, IN
    edited September 2003
    Show me the money - SHOW ME THE MONEY - sorry Jerry McGuire moment ;)

    Replace money by P4 7GHz and I believe ya :D

    The same site also posted summit about AMD64 being forced down Intel's throat by our friends ;) M$. I can see why ;) but that would hurt Intel badly, as it's like endorsing AMD64 properly (sorry but Linux won't do that, good as it is/will be).

    Intel has two real benefits over AMD - high clockspeed numbers are easy to sell, and secondly, HyperThreading or ACTUAL dual core technology (soon).

    AMD is likely to follow with their own dual-core stuff at some stage. AMD has the benefit of AMD64.

    Annoyingly in real life HT has more benefits for most people most of the time...

    I don't think the P4 pipeline will need to be much longer than about 25 to hit that kinda speed. The P4 was designed for high clocks, at a cost (as already mentioned).

    The AMD chips have had an increase in their pipelines too, but it's shorter. Who knows if they need to step up their pipeline sizes to get those massive clocks too ;)

    It's gonna be a good race. Expect prices to drop. Those who bought a P4EE have really rubbed those with the Xeons up the wrong way (price wise) (BAD PR move, Intel ;))

    The gloves are off now, I reckon the PR machines are warming up slowly. Once AMD has enough volume production things get interesting ;)
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