New HSF, maybe

MJOMJO Denmark New
edited October 2003 in Hardware
Can you guys recommend me a new HSF.

My Silent Viking is Silent but it is getting a little hot in there.

I would like a new HSF that has the same noise level as the Silent Viking and does a better job at cooling the processor.

Would it help anything to change the fan?
Change it to one pushing some more air that does not make more noise.

It is an aluminium HS with a copper insert, it is not the optimal solution.
But I belive that the pure copper HSF are too expensive.

BTW. I do not want it to cool my entire apartment. ;D
Just the CPU.
I would like to reach 2.2Ghz maybe even 2.3Ghz.
Can I do that, without increasing the noise?

Would extra airflow in my case help me?
It is not flowing much around the cpu, and I have a Radeon underneath.
It gets pretty hot around there.
How can I move that air out of the way?
Should I drill a hole in the backplate right next to the cpu and mount a 60mm fan there?
Would that do any good?

Comments

  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Thermalright SK-7 and a Thermaltake SmartFan II. 16-80+ cfm adjustable by potentiometer. It would allow you to have an excellent heatsink, and strike the balance between noise and performance as you see fit.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited September 2003
    Actually I have looked at the Thermalright.
    It looks very good.

    Can you move your computer around with it mounted?
    Sometime my computer gets moved around a little [LAN]
    Well I have moved it around with my Silent Viking (Silent Volcano 7) mounted. Let's just say, that is not recommended by the manufacturer.

    Hmm I wonder if it is available in Denmark.
    I haven't seen Thermalright anywhere yet.

    I tripped upon a ThermalTake SilentBoost.
    Is that any good?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Don't know about the silentboost, but I know my Thermalright SK-7 goes with me to LAN parties twice a month and never a problem in over nine months! :D
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited September 2003
    Hmm the ThermalTake Silent Boost sure look nice.
    It has an all copper base and isn't too expensive.

    Only thing bugging me is that I really like the blue design on my silent viking.
    That and the chrome shield on it.
    It sure looks nice.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited September 2003
    I just checked, the ThermalRight SK-7 is nowhere to be seen in Denmark.
    Hmm that means that I have to go shopping internationally.
    Or choose another HSF.

    There are ThermalRight HSF units availble.
    SK6 Scream Edition $70
    SLK800 $53
    SLK900A $55
    SLK900U $59
    SLK947U $62

    I have converted the Danish prices to Dollars.
    They are all more expensive than the Silent Boost.
    And I have to add a fan too.
    Are they any good?
    OCUK has the SK-7, cheap, but I wonder what the shipping would be?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Basically, no heatsink by thermaltake is good. Period. I hate to be so generalised, but they're dinky, poorly-manufactured heatsinks sold at low prices because they're complete crap.

    If you can get the SK-7 for cheap from OCUK, go for it. If you can and WANT to afford the SLK-800, you won't be regretting that either.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited September 2003
    What is the difference between ThermalRight 800 and the 900U except the pricetag?
    I know the U model uses mounting holes instead of a clip.
    Should I buy the 800, the 900A/U or the 947?
    What is the difference?
    Except for different mounting techniques they all look quite similar.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    The 900 is bigger than the 800 and provides slightly higher cooling capacity, and the 947 is a revision on the 900 for increased compatability with motherboards.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited September 2003
    Hmm okay then.
    If I were to choose between the SLK800 and SLK900A.
    What would be the better choice?
    The difference in price is quite small.
    The difference is bigger if you compare SLK800 and SLK900U.
    I think I can live with clip mounting.
    I noticed that it uses all three clips on the socket, that is a good thing.

    BTW. Will the beast fit my motherboard?
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Buy the SLK800 for the lower price, and put a good 80MM fan on it.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited September 2003
    Yes I was considering that GHoosdum.
    But the difference between the 800 and the 900A is hardly noticable.
    It is only 2 dollars.
    I think I can afford that difference ;D
    That is if I gain anything by choosing that instead of the other.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    For only two dollars, I'd say get the 900A then, as long as it'll fit your motherboard.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    For silent cooling while overclocking, the 900 would be better than the 800. The thermaltake silent boost is actually ok (despite what Thrax says, it's real hard to screw up a solid-copper heatsink + 80mm fan combo...) but it's not anywhere near as good as a slk-800 or 900. Get the 900.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited September 2003
    Well the 900A excluding a fan is 10 dollars more expensive than the Silent Boost.
    That is not much, I think I have made my choice then.
    Now all I need is the money. ;D
    Gotta work on that now.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    "Ok" is not sufficient for me. You must realize that. ;D
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    You asked if you can increase airflow volume without increasing noise. Yes, you can. The best way to accomplish that is by using lower RPM, larger fans. The SLK 900, aside from having more thermal transfer surface area (it's bigger), will also accept 92mm fans. There are a number of 92mm fans that put out reasonable airflow, barely audible. I've got one, and am quite impressed with it.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    My favorite 92mm fan is the Sunon KD1209PTB2, which does ~45cfm but is barely audible in free-air applications, and isn't much louder on a heatsink. I'd suggest that or a YSTech 60cfm. They're not silent, but they're quieter than AMD's retail hsfs, and they're far less annoying.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited October 2003
    How about this fan?

    Papst 92mm low noise 23db P3412NGL 92mm
    db: 23 db(A)
    Speed: 1950rpm
    CFM: 35,9 CFM

    Would that be sufficient paired with the SLK900A?

    Sufficient meaning, better than my present HSF.
    Providing sufficient cooling and allowing OC.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    I try to recomend at least 50 CFM if you plan on any O/C'ing and 42CFM period.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited October 2003
    MJO, look at this in perspective. Compare a stock AMD retail HSF to a SLK-900 and that Papst fan.

    The retail HSF is either aluminum or copper and aluminum, and has (at best) a 20cfm 60mm fan. You're going to a much larger heatsink, that's made totally out of copper, and a fan that flows ~2x as much. It's going to be a hell of a lot better than a stock heatsink, and more than enough @ stock speeds. How well it overclocks... you know the rule- more cfm is better. I doubt it'll be THAT big of a deal, unless you want the absolute most from your chip.

    I can't overclock my 1800+ to 2.5GHz without a 92mm Vantec Tornado (120cfm) fan on my SLK-900 because I have to push 1.93v through it to get it stable at that speed, and the SLK-900 can't handle it with anything less than the Tornado. However, it runs perfectly fine at 2.3, and even 2.4GHz with a much, much MUCH more reasonable 60cfm YSTech. It all depends on what you want- if you want the absolute most from your chip, you're gonna need an insane fan. If you can settle for a bit less, that Papst should be fine.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Geeky,

    That's preceisly why I like variable speed fans or a high output with a rheostat. then you get the best of all worlds. Quiet when you want peace and high airflow when you need it, like those O/C sreaks and terror runs.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited October 2003
    Normally, I do too (all of the 80mm fans in my NF7 system are SmartFan2s...). However, for the 1800+, it NEEDS that tornado. There is simply no other fan that will fit on that thing that can handle the heat output of a 1.53GHz/1.5v CPU @ 2.51GHz/1.93v.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited October 2003
    Ok Geeky thanks for the explanation.

    My present Silent Viking is an aluminum HS with a copper insert.
    And has a 32 cfm fan.
    I do believe it is not the fan itself that is the problem.
    It is more likely the heatsink itself.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Why not a Tornado with a Rheostat???
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    MJO,

    If you go for a 80mm heatsink, then Alpha Pal 8045 is the one. Best heatsink i have ever had and it is still ranked in the top 3 or 4 heatsinks if you look at all reviews. It does need the 4 holes in the mainboard though. I used that with a 80-92mm adapter with that papst fan you wrote about. No noise but superb cooling. The results was the same as a 80mm delta on that same heatsink but half the noise compared to with the adapter and the 92mm fan.

    If you have a tornado, mod it to run at 7 volts instead and you will be happy.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited October 2003
    Hmm that is a good question.
    But how noisy are Tornado fans at lower RPM?

    I have found two fan controllers.
    Zalman ZM-MFC1 Multi Fan Controller
    Vantec Nexus NXP-205

    Which one is the better choice?
    I lean towards the Zalman it can control up to six fans.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Have you been to the SVC controller page? They have a lot of neat stuff all in one place and some real good prices. This is where I have been buying most of my cooling stuff for almost 2 years now. They are the Newegg of cooling!
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited October 2003
    *cough*cough* I am in Denmark
    If I order anything from outside the E.U I'll get ripped off when it passes through customs. :(
    If my purchase, including everything, does not exceed $13 it will pass through customs.
    But I cannot buy much with $13. ;)
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