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L0k1L0k1
edited February 2006 in Hardware
Hi, Im trying to build the best PC ever, Money isnt a worry, help me design it and once its built ill give u the awesome specs!!!
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  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited February 2006
    You came to the right place... We need to know a bit about what you want.

    CPU preference - AMD, Intel
    Memory Requirements - 1 GB? 2 GB
    Money isn't a worry? $3000, $5000, $9000, &15,000??? We can help you build a $50,000 PC but why?

    What do you need to do with this PC? Game? Fold? Drafting/ AutoCAD? Movie editing.... all of these come into play when building a PC.

    Dow much hard drive space... Do you need built in data backup (RAID 1 or 5)?

    MORE INFO and we'll be more than happy to help!!!!
  • L0k1L0k1
    edited February 2006
    What Im attempting to do is build a PC able to handle the most demanding things possible while sacraficing nothing, im building in simple. THE PERFECT PC. Money isnt an issue because I have an income of about 2k a month and spend maybe 500 bucks... that 1500 dollars to blow a month... and Im not going anywhere. I want to be able to game, type, movie/music edit. and Yes sadly i know how to draft using auto cad after 10 credits worth of HS Technical Drafting.(4 of which were college credits earned). I want to get the ultimate PC, the fastest, best looking, most overclockable divine machine ever thought... and I think everyone here has always wondered what the best could do, hence i need ure help and once im done, Im going to stick what the baby can do here.. Mmmm
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited February 2006
    I expect this will be a popular thread. :p
  • DonutDonut Maine New
    edited February 2006
    How may procs. are we talking,1,2,4? Single/dual core? (multi-cores out soon)
    Disc system? ATA,SATA,SCSI, fiber?
  • NightwolfNightwolf Afghanistan Member
    edited February 2006
    fx-60 and dual 7800gtx's 512's...fill in the rest.
  • BadDevilBadDevil
    edited February 2006
    Lian Li Full tower a must have thing

    http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/S_V_S_PC-V2000plus.htm
  • L0k1L0k1
    edited February 2006
    You guys arent getting it, Its your guys as a group, along with me to think up the best computer for EVERYTHING. dual processor, dual core,blah blah. YOU GUYS NEED TO DECIDE WITH ME. but it has to rock.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited February 2006
    Here is a start to get things moving.

    Motherboard

    CPU- You will need 4 of these Dual Core Server CPU's to go in it.

    Memory -You will need 4 of these.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited February 2006
    No PCI-Express slots. Best you can do is an SMP Opteron rig on the nForce4 Professional chipset with a 7800GTX.
  • sfleurietsfleuriet Texas New
    edited February 2006
    This is going to get incredibly expensive... I read the whole thread already, but still - not having a budget is asking for financial problems. Shouldn't you save some money in case of emergency?
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited February 2006
    Look, basically the sky's the limit. You're not going to get any cohesive answers unless you set yourself a budget for us to work with. Like Q said, we could spend $15,000 of your money or $50,000. $1500 a month may seem like a lot, but not if we spec out a $20,000 computer. :rolleyes:

    So let's be realistic. First of all, your goals are to have the best computer money can buy. That's not really a realistic goal because I could send you to sun.com and have you spend a million dollars. Let's try to whittle it down to a range, like "i want to spend under $5000" or "i want to spend between $2000 and $4000".
  • DonutDonut Maine New
    edited February 2006
    Don't forget, whatever is big and bad now probibly won't be in 6mos.
  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited February 2006
    Donut wrote:
    Don't forget, whatever is big and bad now probably won't be in 6mos.
    Or tomorrow, for that matter.

    I'd say under a $10,000. Any thing over that is WAY over kill. Also realize that a gaming PC will take you in a different direction than a Video Editor and in a different direction from a AutoCAD PC.

    Gamers want a kick but Graphic card (ATI Radeon 1900XT for $600), a drafter may want a killer workstation card (Quadro FX4500 for $1800).

    A Workstation may want tons of disk space but running RAID 5. RAID 5 on a gamers rig is really a waste. The gamer would want RAID 0.

    We cannot create a "#1 PC of all time"... we can only build a "jack of all trades, master of none" or a PC that is good at one thing.

    I guess it’s like a vehicle. You want the best vehicle, money is not an issue. Well, do you want a Hummer military specs, rolls Royce, a Lamborghini.... they all are #1 in one way or another but the hummer will lose in speed to the Lamborghini... the Lamborghini cannot tow a semi...
  • L0k1L0k1
    edited February 2006
    Listen I understand how not setting a limit may seem silly, I have plenty of money saved up, you guys need not worry. As for the computer... It must be able to fit into a regular case, I dont want a room sized computer I was a regular looking computer ( Obviously there are a few bendable rules) but i dont want no full room sized computer.. think monster garage?(if uve seen it) It must llook as normal as possible while pwning all others.
  • L0k1L0k1
    edited February 2006
    About the hummer thing. Im sure if you all work together you can make a "jack of all trades" Like that truck with eth viper engine ( very fast) and could pull a semi! yay!
  • sfleurietsfleuriet Texas New
    edited February 2006
    Okay if you don't start agreeing that "The Ultimate PC" cannot be built, then nobody is going to help you any further.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited February 2006
    pilotwings119 wrote:
    Okay if you don't start agreeing that "The Ultimate PC" cannot be built, then nobody is going to help you any further.
    Speak for yourself only, chum. ;)
  • sfleurietsfleuriet Texas New
    edited February 2006
    profdlp wrote:
    Speak for yourself only, chum. ;)
    So if he insists on building The Ultimate PC that does everything better than any other computer, with no budget, you'll help him pick the components? And what about when he comes back in a month saying his Ultimate PC freezes up in Halo, but works fine in AutoCAD and it's all our fault for wasting his $10,000?
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited February 2006
    If money isnt an issue, then this computer will certainly kick ass. My bro's friend has this exact system below and it is amazing. Really damn expensive and a waste of money if you ask me, but these are really really fast parts.

    $1030 cpu -AMD 64 FX60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103608

    $229 mobo - Asus A8N 32 SLI premium - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131568

    2 X $489 vid card - eVGA geforce 7800 GTX SLI - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130237

    $270 mem- OCZ titanium 2 gigs- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227056

    If i had unlimited money, this is what I would get.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited February 2006
    pilotwings119 wrote:
    So if he insists on building The Ultimate PC that does everything better than any other computer, with no budget, you'll help him pick the components? And what about when he comes back in a month saying his Ultimate PC freezes up in Halo, but works fine in AutoCAD and it's all our fault for wasting his $10,000?
    It's his money and his responsibility regarding how he spends it. My point was that saying "nobody is going to help you any further" is a little strong. Saying that you are unable to help without having a clearer idea of the ultimate objective is reasonable and fair. See the difference? :)
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited February 2006
    the way I see it, any high end cpu will do fine :) (since we dont know what he wants to do with it)
  • sfleurietsfleuriet Texas New
    edited February 2006
    profdlp wrote:
    It's his money and his responsibility regarding how he spends it. My point was that saying "nobody is going to help you any further" is a little strong. Saying that you are unable to help without having a clearer idea of the ultimate objective is reasonable and fair. See the difference? :)
    Yes I do - It's hard for me to work on something not knowing what it's for, just like you said.

    I say go with a Lian Li case and PC Power and Cooling PSU :respect:
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited February 2006
    I say...

    Build six or seven barebones, dual core, high performance Folding@Home rigs and join Team 93. Let the customer come over to your house play games while you rack up megapoints for Short-Media Team! ;)
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited February 2006
    tmh88 wrote:
    If money isnt an issue, then this computer will certainly kick ass. My bro's friend has this exact system below and it is amazing. Really damn expensive and a waste of money if you ask me, but these are really really fast parts.

    $1030 cpu -AMD 64 FX60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103608

    $229 mobo - Asus A8N 32 SLI premium - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131568

    2 X $489 vid card - eVGA geforce 7800 GTX SLI - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130237

    $270 mem- OCZ titanium 2 gigs- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227056

    If i had unlimited money, this is what I would get.

    I think that's a great starting point. I'd finish that off with two 8ms 19" LCDs (providing SLI works with dual monitors now, I'm not sure if drivers have fixed that yet).

    I'd also get fancy caching RAID controller with 4x Seagate NCQ SATAII drives in whatever capacity is available. The 7200rpm rotational speed will spare your ears, and the fancy controller set at RAID 0 or RAID 0+1 will give you the speed you need. You might use the array for programs and storage, and maybe a single small WD Raptor drive for Windows. Not sure if the separate Raptor will net you any performance gains or not, though. Tex?
  • AuthorityActionAuthorityAction Missouri Member
    edited February 2006
    I just looked really quick for the most expensive stuff...

    DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR - $189.99

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813136166

    AMD Athlon 64 FX60 Toledo - $1029.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103608

    (4x) Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATAII - $1348.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822148108

    OCZ Gold Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR 500 - $212.84

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227219

    Lian Li V PC-V2100B - $320.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811112094

    PC Power & Cooling 1000W PSU - $489.99

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817703003

    (2x) BFG Tech Geforce 7800GTX 256MB - $1,019.98

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143036

    (2x) HYUNDAI Silver 19" 8ms LCD Monitor - $599.98

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824179014
  • sfleurietsfleuriet Texas New
    edited February 2006
    I agree with AuthorityAction on everything. Except maybe the hard drives, but if you need that much space I guess it's good :p
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited February 2006
    ancy controller set at RAID 0 or RAID 0+1 will give you the speed you need
    Do NOT do a RAID 0 array for someone who may not have computer hardware skills. (Well, I guess the recipient does not have skills, or he'd be building a computer himself.) RAID 0 can be very easy to brake and even under normal conditions doubles the chances of data loss/files corruption.
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited February 2006
    I think this might be a joke
  • AuthorityActionAuthorityAction Missouri Member
    edited February 2006
    pilotwings119 wrote:
    I agree with AuthorityAction on everything. Except maybe the hard drives, but if you need that much space I guess it's good :p

    There is no such thing as too much storage.. ;)
  • sfleurietsfleuriet Texas New
    edited February 2006
    tmh88 wrote:
    I think this might be a joke
    No I think it's just a young guy that doesn't know very much about computers (which is perfectly okay, don't get me wrong), and is expecting too much from a custom rig. I don't want to sound mean, but he does need to do some research and know what he's getting into.
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