HP dv8000t Taken Apart

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  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited October 2006
    Well if I could upgrade my CPU... I only have to remove a hatch and viola... I can replace the CPU :P Same goes for pretty much everything but the motherboard itself.

    But it appears that I cannot get a nice upgraded CPU like that... maybe in a couple years when the warrantee is up I'll try to do some modding and get something more powerful put into my lappy.
  • edited December 2006
    Hi Sledgehammer70, just bought myself this baby, the first one had a motherboard problem so they replaced it. The problem is in this part of the world (Africa|Kenya-Nairobi) HP support is quite far both at warranty & parts support (Middle East). I had a XP media & WSXGA (1680X10X0)on the machine that developed the MB prblem could not recognize the DVD-DRIVE completely!

    As it were in your investigations is it possible to replace the NVIDI Go7400 with something higher so as to be able to do this resolution?

    I look forwrd to the disassembley guide for this baby.

    What were the performance gains from the processor upgrade? could you post comparative benchmarks?

    Grateful
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited December 2006
    Another OCZ rep on S-M. Awesome! Welcome, Denasen.
  • edited December 2006
    thanx Thrax....
  • edited May 2007
    Hello,

    Looks like an old thread here, but it is relevant to my current problem. The fan over the CPU is making noises, and I suspect the baring is to blame. I know if I can get to it, I can grease it. I have taken it mostly apart, but couldn't get to the portion where I could access the fan.

    Do you still have any pictures or instruction in reaching the CPU fan?

    Thanks in advance.
  • Sledgehammer70Sledgehammer70 California Icrontian
    edited May 2007
    the problem is... to get to the fan you have to remove the mobo from the bottom plastic casing... only than can you get to the fan. It seems like a tight fit where the USB ports are but it semi forcibly will come out...
  • edited May 2007
    the problem is... to get to the fan you have to remove the mobo from the bottom plastic casing... only than can you get to the fan. It seems like a tight fit where the USB ports are but it semi forcibly will come out...

    Well, I guess it's just unclear how to separate the mobo. The grayish portion seems to have a snap system that I started to unsnap. One side unsnapped pretty easily, but the other end doesn't seem to want to come out at all and I'm afraid to really force it.

    Maybe you can see if I'm doing something wrong: I take out the battery and memory and disconnect the wireless card. Then I take the keyboard off and remove the screen from the base. After this is where I'm alittle hazy. The gray portion on the left side (AC power side) seems to snap off pretty easily, but the side that has the DVD-RW doesn't seem to want to budge.

    Is there something I should be doing differently here?
  • Sledgehammer70Sledgehammer70 California Icrontian
    edited May 2007
    take everything off, slide the dvd tray out and on the side with the media card reader is where your going to have to apply the most force... At one point i almost though I snapped the mobo, but with patience and doing it slowly i got the exp port and svideo and USB ports to come out...

    Just make sure all the sqrews holding the board down are removed... remove the speakers etc.. everything. the entire system has to be broken down to remove it.
  • edited May 2007
    Well, after about 2 hours of work, I was able to get to the cpu fan. I put some 3-in-1 oil on the baring as best I could, but alas it is still rattling away. Seems like it is still able to blow air out, so I guess I'll just have to live with the noise.

    Thanks for all the pointers.

    PS: I took some pics of it apart as well. Was pretty fun.

    EDIT: Seems as though I'm not quite privileged yet to post my picture. Oh well.
  • Sledgehammer70Sledgehammer70 California Icrontian
    edited May 2007
    I think there is a 5 post rule... I could be wrong.
  • edited May 2007
    =/

    Now that I got my comp up and running (posting from) I realized I have a few screws left over. Eek. Hope it doesn't fall apart >.,
  • LincLinc Owner Detroit Icrontian
    edited May 2007
    You can post pics now, all fixed.
  • edited May 2007
    LaptopDisassembly003.jpg

    So, after all this work, it looks like no amount of grease/oil was able to fix the problem. Looks like I'll need to get a new fan.

    Anyone have any idea what I could replace the fan with?

    EDIT: Well, I found the replacement part for it. Looks like you have to buy a new heatsink/fan assembly at the price of $70. Quite the headache.

    For anyone else that has this problem, the part number for reference is [FONT=helvetica, arial, helvetica, courier]407862-001 .
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  • Sledgehammer70Sledgehammer70 California Icrontian
    edited May 2007
    I so remember all those parts....
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian
    edited May 2007
    That picture makes my teeth hurt...
  • edited May 2007
    I got my HP dv8321tx upgraded to T7200 too. :bigggrin:

    In order to break it down, you need the 'Service and maintenance manual' from HP.

    ==> google: c00701888.pdf

    And thanks Sledgehammer70, the first useful stuff I found was the article post by him.

    (I am not allowed to post the links :mad: )

    Cheers!
  • Sledgehammer70Sledgehammer70 California Icrontian
    edited May 2007
    Glad to hear I could help... in some sort of way :) how's the new CPU running...
  • BezBez
    edited July 2007
    Hello every one,

    hey Sledgehammer70, bravo! i am sure it took allot of guts.
    great stuff.

    I was searching today in google so long, to find exactly this.
    I own a dv8391ea (sorry, can't post links yet even as plain text?)
    it looks like yours, but I was wondering what is your
    model specific name? do you think it's the same?

    my specs are,
    cpu: is T2500, video: nVidia 7600 256 mb, monitor: 17 inch 1440*900,
    storage: 2 hdd 100 gb.

    I was chatting earlier today with an HP online tech, guy,
    I asked him about what chipset I have? he said nVidia 7600.
    I told him that I mean the mainboard, cpu chipset?
    maybe I don't know some terms when it comes to lappi's,
    like what is a mobo? anyways,
    he couldn't really help me there, but he did say that the cpu is soldered,
    and I won't be able to upgrade, I didn't believe him.

    cpuz say the following in my laptop:
    CPU:
    T2500
    Package: Socket 479 mPGA
    Mainboard:
    Chipset: i945PM
    Southbridge 82801GHM(ICH7-m-DA)
    Memory:
    DDR2
    Frequency: 332.5 MHz (is that ok?)

    A bios update was issued to my specific model at may 25 2007,
    but I did not install it yet.

    It would be so cool if it would be possible to also overclock
    the new chips to around 2.7Ghz, maybe 3Ghz :rarr:?
    they produce less heat, those chips, no?
    and you also replaced to a better cooling sink,
    did I understand that correct?
    it's a shame that upgrading graphics is not possible,
    Or do you think someone crazy enough might be able to?

    I won't try any thing soon, but maybe one day I will.
    you all sure inspire me, fantastic job!

    Hope to hear more news about how are performance wise was it really?
    do you really see a big performance boost in games and such?
    if you would be able to overclock your cpu maybe it will be even better.
    it's a shame because this laptop is really good but the cpu is not a gamer cpu,
    if it's possible to overclock this to 3Ghz, do you think it would make
    allot of a difference in performance?

    in short: is it worth the hassle?

    Again, fantastic effort,

    thank you in advance,
    Bez.

    -EDIT-

    fucintosh, I have googled the user manual number you posted
    and also found a different one named --> c00637497.pdf
    I found it in a post in a site called "r3000forums"
    I am going to check if they look the same...

    they are different a bit, I didn't check everything but
    in the PDF you mentioned it's written about AMD processor,
    while the PDF I have found show a strange thing in processor section:

    Processors (include thermal paste)

    407763-001 Intel Pentium M 21.7-GHZ
    407662-001 Intel Pentium M 2.0-GHz
    407661-001 Intel Pentium M 1.83-GHz
    407660-001 Intel Pentium M 66-GHz Dual Code <-- (what is that?)


    I don't find a manual like this in HP site under my laptop model, dv8391ea,
    But I do know that the PDF I have found in the other site
    is for the dv8300 serie, so,
    I am assuming I can upgrade with out any fears, right?

    sorry for the very long replay.

    thank you for all your help.
    it was allot of time until I found your post here, pure luck!
  • Sledgehammer70Sledgehammer70 California Icrontian
    edited July 2007
    I had the dv8000t CTO it sported the T2600 Core Duo processor.

    I hate to break the news but you can OC the CPU :( but you can download and install many different utilities to OC the GPU. While i never OC'ed mine I know it is possible with any Nvidia GPU.

    If you could honestly upgrade the GPU and still have a working Laptop I would be amazed. The chip is by no means removable or upgradeable...
    DDR2
    Frequency: 332.5 MHz (is that ok?)

    Right on par with what it can do. The Core Duo can only support upto 667MHz Memory which is 333Mhz Single channel.... so your good to go.

    Bios updates are always good, but HP will never unlock the mobo for OC'ing. if soemone could find away to enable it I would pay some cash for it :)
  • BezBez
    edited July 2007
    hey Sledgehammer,
    thank you for your quick replay,
    I hate to break the news but you can OC the CPU :( but you can...

    now, I am assuming you meant can't, and that is ashame,
    though I have seen here and there in the net some people that
    claim to OC thier laptop to the around 3GHz clockspeed,
    should I believe it? I don't know.

    regarding the GPU,
    since you and maybe a few others are the only one that
    actually have seen this baby from the inside and won't lie about it,
    did you manage to see if this laptop use the MXM module?

    I do know that some of the NX9000 models are on the list in the
    MXM-upgrade website.
    I would like to believe that the dv8000 has MXM,
    if so, an upgrade would be possible, no?


    hope to see a guide on upgrading the CPU,
    that would be great,
    Ho, and I am really interested to know,
    do you see allot of perfformance boost? was it worth it all?

    again thank you for sharing your info,
    Bez.

    -EDIT-
    Sledgehammer, did you ever read this article? "Mobile CPU Wars: Core 2 Duo vs. Core Duo" in the AnanDTech website?
    can't post links yet, sorry. interesting article.
  • edited July 2007
    Bez wrote:
    hey Sledgehammer,
    thank you for your quick replay,



    now, I am assuming you meant can't, and that is ashame,
    though I have seen here and there in the net some people that
    claim to OC thier laptop to the around 3GHz clockspeed,
    should I believe it? I don't know.

    regarding the GPU,
    since you and maybe a few others are the only one that
    actually have seen this baby from the inside and won't lie about it,
    did you manage to see if this laptop use the MXM module?

    I do know that some of the NX9000 models are on the list in the
    MXM-upgrade website.
    I would like to believe that the dv8000 has MXM,
    if so, an upgrade would be possible, no?


    hope to see a guide on upgrading the CPU,
    that would be great,
    Ho, and I am really interested to know,
    do you see allot of perfformance boost? was it worth it all?

    again thank you for sharing your info,
    Bez.

    -EDIT-
    Sledgehammer, did you ever read this article? "Mobile CPU Wars: Core 2 Duo vs. Core Duo" in the AnanDTech website?
    can't post links yet, sorry. interesting article.

    I actually did some research on upgrading the CPU, and I concluded that it wasn't worth it. Right now, we have a desktop version of the core duo. You'd have to upgrade to the core 2 duo mobile which is a weak version of the chip. Sure it's an upgrade, but it's so minute that it's not worth the cash or effort of installing.

    Also, overclocking the GPU is very easy. Google "Coolbit". If you have 9xxx+ drivers, overclocking software is included, which also contains a temperature reader for the GPU. I have successfully overclocked the GPU by about 100 mhz with no major change in temperature and no graphical anomalies.

    Good luck if you decide to upgrade the CPU though. :)

    EDIT:

    To clarify the GPU overclock. You have to make some additions to the registry, then the nVidia control panel will be available. (which contains the stated tools)

    Edit 2:

    bah, coolmax -> coolbit

    Found a link: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=29541
    This is a good guide to getting it running and how to use it.
  • BezBez
    edited July 2007
    Wow, thank you steelclash,

    I was actually just thinking of doing that to my GPU,
    I have forceware 84.54, they are the original drivers I got from HP,
    never changed them, never needed to.
    I have the 7600 256 mb, do you think it would work?
    should I update my forceware even if nothing is broken?

    Just yesterday I bought "R6 Vegas" and that
    is the most intensive game I had to date on my laptop.
    would be nice to overclock my gpu just for this game!

    thanks for the link
    Bez.
  • edited July 2007
    Bez wrote:
    Wow, thank you steelclash,

    I was actually just thinking of doing that to my GPU,
    I have forceware 84.54, they are the original drivers I got from HP,
    never changed them, never needed to.
    I have the 7600 256 mb, do you think it would work?
    should I update my forceware even if nothing is broken?

    Just yesterday I bought "R6 Vegas" and that
    is the most intensive game I had to date on my laptop.
    would be nice to overclock my gpu just for this game!

    thanks for the link
    Bez.

    I'm using driver 91.33. They are the most optimal and most recent available for this particular GPU.

    It's kind of hard to come by. That being said, the best place to get them is http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ . Find forceware 91.33, download the driver, then you will need to download the .inf file. They are both located there.

    You'll unpack the driver into a folder, then copy the .inf into that folder. Since nVidia isn't so keen on supporting laptop go cards, all forceware drivers support pretty much every nVidia card product, but for legal reasons, they don't include most go cards in the inf file.

    I've been using these drivers for the past 2 months, and they work very well. Much better then the stock 84.54 drivers.

    Hope that helps.

    EDIT:

    I have my GPU overclocked to the following:

    433 MHz on the Memory Clock and
    471 MHz 3D clock

    You can go higher then these, but you will start to see some texture corruption.
  • Sledgehammer70Sledgehammer70 California Icrontian
    edited July 2007
    Try these drivers...

    XtremeG MobileForce- Windows Vista 32bit & 64bit

    - XtremeG MobileForce 32bit - 101.70 WHQL - 33.5MB

    Also the GOU is built onto the motherboard and not based on a MXM Board... As far as I know Non of HP's laptops use a MXM board. :(

    Also while you can get the memory boosted it is only the provided memory, You are not able to OC or boost the shared system memory. so if it is a 7600 with 256MB your only OC'ing the 256MB not the shared memory. ( Most of these chips will use 370+MB of system memory....)
  • BezBez
    edited July 2007
    Thanks Sledgehammer, steelclash,
    Try these drivers...

    XtremeG MobileForce- Windows Vista 32bit & 64bit

    - XtremeG MobileForce 32bit - 101.70 WHQL - 33.5MB


    I am using xp sp2, not vista, are they ok for xp also?
    also, how can I check what is my stock clock/memory clock speed?
    rivatuner?

    I went to their site and it is mostly for desktops,
    didn't find any real answers for notebooks.

    and since you guys have the notebook as I have,
    I was wondering maybe you know what software is best
    for finding out with out frying the gpu?

    never OC anything before not even my desktop,
    should be fun though,

    thanks.

    -EDIT-
    Sledgehammer, I found only 101.17 for xp 32 bit not 101.70 did you mean those?
    Steelclash, I have found 91.33 but it does not state support for Go 7600,
    How safe is it to do these things assuming I don't OC to much,
    can I really fry my GPU, or is it only myths?

    I really appriciate all your help, thanks.
  • edited July 2007
    Bez wrote:
    Thanks Sledgehammer, steelclash,




    I am using xp sp2, not vista, are they ok for xp also?
    also, how can I check what is my stock clock/memory clock speed?
    rivatuner?

    I went to their site and it is mostly for desktops,
    didn't find any real answers for notebooks.

    and since you guys have the notebook as I have,
    I was wondering maybe you know what software is best
    for finding out with out frying the gpu?

    never OC anything before not even my desktop,
    should be fun though,

    thanks.

    -EDIT-
    Sledgehammer, I found only 101.17 for xp 32 bit not 101.70 did you mean those?
    Steelclash, I have found 91.33 but it does not state support for Go 7600,
    How safe is it to do these things assuming I don't OC to much,
    can I really fry my GPU, or is it only myths?

    I really appriciate all your help, thanks.
    No drivers out there specifically support 7600 go other then the 84.54. Reason is, nVidia left it up to the manufacturers of the laptop to provide driver updates. nForce drivers support all gforce cards, however they took out the 7600 go from the inf file.

    You can download the inf file that people have modified to add all of the go cards out there and the installer will fix you up.

    91.33 is about the best ones out there for 7600 go, after that most of the drivers are focused on issues unrelated to 7600 go cards (especially features that aren't included on the card). Sledge may know more about this then me, so correct me if I'm wrong here. I've tried a lot of different drivers including 100.xx+ drivers, and I have found 91.33 to be the most stable and best performing so far.

    Keep in mind, I don't have Vista, so if you plan to upgrade, you might wanna go with Sledge's driver suggestion. On XP, I think these are gold.

    It's very difficult to fry the gpu, you have to "test" the OC settings you use prior to applying them. There is also an option to only use the settings until you restart, that way if your gpu overheats and shuts down or freezes, then you can just restart back with normal settings. Either way, most of the time you will see memory corruption if you set it the frequencies too high.

    EDIT:

    Also when changing your drivers, it may be best to download some driver cleaner software to get rid of all the old driver components prior to installing the newer drivers.
  • Sledgehammer70Sledgehammer70 California Icrontian
    edited July 2007
    For Windows XP these driver seemed to work the best for me

    XtremeG MobileForce- Windows XP 32bit & 64bit

    - XtremeG MobileForce 32bit - 97.92 WHQL - 37.3MB

    The drivers are rock solid for the 7600Go and should work for you overall...

    Also you won't fry your GPU with a driver update, and in most cases (99%) you will not fry the GPU when overclocking. Nvidia has some nice shut down features when the core gets to hot. Worst case, your laptop will just shut off.
  • BezBez
    edited July 2007
    Hey Sledgehammer,

    I know this is not the place for this but
    I registered in the tweaksrus forum but it will take some time
    until I could post, so,
    I was hoping you could help me,

    I installed ForceWare 97.92 M4 just like they explain in the site,
    (didn't find WHQL)
    with Driver cleaner and Ccleaner and so on...
    but I fear I might got a virus from that,

    after rebooting with the new drivers,
    there is a process called wmiprvse.exe,
    I googled it and as you probably know it's some Microsoft s**t.
    But the strange thing is that the process is always jumping,
    as in blinking in the task manager, and it is there 2 times every
    time it's appearing, more over my mouse cursor
    is now having the "thinking" icon (sand clock) every few seconds (flicker)
    I have seen in google that this process could also be a virus,

    Did I do something wrong? ;..(

    every thing is working fine, games also,
    with out overclocking, my core is 450 and
    memory at 600!!! is that for real?

    To how much did you OC your GPU?

    Again, sorry for totally changing this thread into OC help forum.
    I hope you could help me with this last question, (I hope)

    thank you all very much.

    -EDIT-
    I OC to core: 585MHz memory: 876MHz,
    I did not touch any bios stuff, should I?
    I just clicked the detect optimal frequencies button and hop!
    temp in idle mode is 56 cel. looks promising! : )
    will check later in Rainbow6 vegas.

    thank you again.
  • Sledgehammer70Sledgehammer70 California Icrontian
    edited July 2007
    detect optimal frequencies is the best way to go with coolbits :)

    as far as the (wmiprvse.exe) I think you should be fine, It is just a MS service... I hear some say get ride of it and some say keep it. Might have been something Nvidia tacked on. It is not a virus :)

    Thanks to Nvidia I am unable to get the coolbits hack to work in Vista. (well at least the version I have now). I think I will go on a hunt for a Version that will work in Vista & with Nvidia's new dumb control panel.
  • BezBez
    edited July 2007
    ok, I don't get this anymore,

    Lost cost video stress test:
    84.54 --> 48.37fps
    97.92 --> 47.41fps
    97.92 (OC with detect optimal frequencies) --> 7.73fps

    After seeing the fps in lost cost are so bad when OC
    I decided to try R6 vegas, it was the same as in the
    84.54 more or less about 30fps average by eyeballing it,

    And now the strange part comes in,
    when I quited R6, I saw that the core/memory
    went down to the stock 450/600
    and now I can not change the OC at all,
    any settings I put in manually it says: test failed try lower the speed,
    but even lower than the stock speed is not possible.
    when I try to press the detect optimal frequencies again,
    it just put me back at stock 450/600.
    what gives?
    Does it mean that my BIOS or videoBIOS is locked?
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