What could it be?

MJOMJO Denmark New
edited October 2003 in Hardware
Strange noises have begun emerging from the innards of my rig.

Well they are not that strange, it is a fan dying.

But which one?
I have posted this poll and now you can vote.
I will post the answer in a couple of days.

Age of components
Radeon fan (early May this year)
Chipset fan (late April this year)
Case fan (1½-2 years old (Papst))
PSU fans (2 months old)
HSF (1½-2 years old)

Comments

  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    I voted chipset fan. They have definitely improved, but Abit used be known for northbridge fans that were either DOA or died at a young age. I myself had one go out within a month of purchase.

    All fairness - I don't think that problem still plagues Abit.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited October 2003
    Case fan esp if its a sleeve and not ball-bearing fans.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited October 2003
    I personally do not think it is the case fan.
    //Begin advertising
    It is a high quality very low-noise Papst fan.
    I don't know whether or not Papst is sold in the US.
    But in Europe it is regarded as one of the best.. if not the best fan.
    //End advertising
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    It is sold in the US. I have a few of them. Best quality, hands down. As for performance:noise ratio, they are up there with Panaflo L1A series, but in my opinion, don't surpass them.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited October 2003
    Here's an idea:
    Try unplugging a fan, if the noise is still there, plug it back in and repeat the process on another fan. Sooner or later, you'll find the culprit...
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    MJO had this to say
    I personally do not think it is the case fan.
    //Begin advertising
    It is a high quality very low-noise Papst fan.
    I don't know whether or not Papst is sold in the US.
    But in Europe it is regarded as one of the best.. if not the best fan.
    //End advertising

    They better be, they cost me like £15, but I do think they suck. Not worth this much more than normal fans, the difference is marginal at best.

    NS
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited October 2003
    NS, they're not worth $30 apiece, but they have a "made in Germany" sticker on them, which automatically doubles or triples the price. :D
  • McBainMcBain San Clemente, CA New
    edited October 2003
    Geeky1 had this to say
    NS, they're not worth $30 apiece, but they have a "made in Germany" sticker on them, which automatically doubles or triples the price. :D


    So they are the 'benz' of fans?
  • WuGgaRoOWuGgaRoO Not in the shower Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Leonardo had this to say
    I voted chipset fan. They have definitely improved, but Abit used be known for northbridge fans that were either DOA or died at a young age. I myself had one go out within a month of purchase.

    All fairness - I don't think that problem still plagues Abit.

    i totally confirm this..my kt7a-raid chipset fan died very early...like not even a year...well ti started and stoppped every few seconds and produced an annoying sound
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited October 2003
    MCBain, sort of, yeah. Except the 'Benzes are worth every penny ( :D); the fans, on the other hand, aren't always worth what they cost...
  • seversphereseversphere
    edited October 2003
    either your chipset fan or psu fan. Is the noise loud or soft hum/vibration. The NF7 chipset fan can easily loosen up and start a hum - from the "grille" loosening up. So maybe gently tighten it up. Psu fans are generally the cheapest and most of em love to make a louder knocking sound as they go out or get dust problems. If it's your heatsink fan then you need to check right away if you already haven't.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Seversphere,
    I think he knows what's wrong in his case; he's testing to see how many members guess the solution.

    RE: price of Papst fans. There are a number of warehouse/surplus outfits where you can find the Papst fans for about the same price as ordinary fans.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited October 2003
    I have not tested anything yet, the case has not been opened yet.
    The sound is not there all the time.

    Actually I haven't got a clue about what is the culprit.
    I am betting on the chipset fan though.
  • DogSoldierDogSoldier The heart of radical Amish country..
    edited October 2003
    Are you missing any small pets? Gerbils and hamsters and such?
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited October 2003
    I'm going to say that it might be the fan on your heatsink. It's getting some age on it and dust/dirt might have gotten up into the bearings or the mounting bolts might have gotten a little loose and it's rattling on the heatsink. The chipset fan is the other most likely possibility. I just changed the chipset fan out on my KG7-R about 3 months ago because the original froze up. Found a nice 40X15 mm fan for it at www.mpja.com along with 6-120 mm Panaflo M1A's and 6-80mm Panaflo H1A's. I noticed that they have some 92 mm Papst fans for sale right now for a real good price there. They also have some giant 24v EBM/Papst fans too; wonder if they'd start reliably on 12v?:hrm:
  • FormFactorFormFactor At the core of forgotten
    edited October 2003
    Every time I have had funny noise from a PC its always been the PSU fan.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited October 2003
    No furry pets.
    I had a fish die on me recently though. ;)
  • GobblesGobbles Ventura California
    edited October 2003
    just replace all the fans, why risk it, fans are cheap replace em. You can replace every fan in a case (excluding a psu) for 30 dollars or less...

    Gobbles

    (thats give or take based on # of fans in a system)
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited October 2003
    Bloody hell (can I say that?)
    The fan on the Radeon is dead.
    Im am pretty sure it is the fan that has been making odd noises.
    I noticed 20 minutes ago that none of my games worked.
    Then I changed back to Cat. 3.7 that did not help.
    Then I cracked my case open.
    Put my finger in between my Radeon and my SBLive.
    I put it in there to see whether or not the fan was turning.
    And I burned my poor finger.
    Damn it was hot, I'd say approx. 80-90 degress C.
    And it was idling.

    Now I am all in for damage control.

    I have underclocked the card to a minimum and I have mounted a 80mm case fan blowing at the card from the side.

    Topic for my next thread.
    What should I mount on the Radeon instead of the stock fan?

    To Shorty: What can I do regarding an RMA on the fan.
    I will not send the whole card again, that was quite expensive.
    Would they ship a replacement fan if I tell them it has died?
    Or am I better of finding my own replacement.
    I bought it at OCUK remember?
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