Help Plz......................!!!

BaLLeRBaLLeR Boca Raton, Florida
edited November 2003 in Hardware
i recently bought a new GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x from ebay, brand new hasnt been used. When i install it and i need to restart, my comp locks up right after WinXp is done with that bar thing when u boot up ur comp. Also sometimes the screen does a bunch of weird stuff like green lines start and disortion. How can i fix this probleme. thx for you help.

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  • DogSoldierDogSoldier The heart of radical Amish country..
    edited October 2003
    Computer specs please. CPU/MOBO/RAM/Previous Vid Card

    Did you remove your old card drivers before installing?
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    First thing first:

    Always check your memory before proceeding with any diagnostics.

    www.memtest86.com to download the boot floppy maker, boot off of it (floppy or CD) and let it run all 7 tests.
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited October 2003
    format c:....

    Or a windows repair install.

    Update us and i'll update you on how to do the previous suggestions.
  • MediaManMediaMan Powered by loose parts.
    edited October 2003
    1) Did you install this card in a system that was already up and running?

    2) If yes to 1...then did you uninstall the previous drivers for the other video card. This could be hanging the process.

    3) Do you have the original video card? If so...put it back in and see if the problem clears itself. If it does...uninstall those video card drivers (preferably in safe mode) then shut down the PC and put the new one back in and reboot.

    Hope this helps.
  • DexterDexter Vancouver, BC Canada
    edited October 2003
    In addition to the above suggestions, check your mobo's BIOS settings for AGP mode, Video shadow, memory hole, etc. Make sure you give the video card 64 MB RAM to work with.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited October 2003
    Without more info, it's difficult to diagnose. Sounds like a video driver problem to me though, in which case a format and reinstall may be your only solution.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Before drastic measures:

    1. Download (freeware) and install RegCleaner.
    2. Uninstall video drivers.
    3. Run RegCleaner, removing anything relating to the video drivers. Look for key words pertaining to your card - I presume you are running detonator drivers.
    4. Reboot and reinstall drivers.
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited October 2003
    Welcome to Short-Media Baller! :D

    Baller, it sounds like 1 of 3 possible problems:

    1) Dead/dying video adapter. If you can, RMA the thing back to who you purchased it off of and request an exchange.

    2) Video drivers have not been properly installed. Boot into safe mode, remove your previous display drivers, restart and download the newest NVidia ForceWare 52.16 drivers for Windows XP from www.nvidia.com.

    3) This one depends on what type of video card you had BEFORE the GeForce 4 MX 440. What was your old card?
  • GobblesGobbles Ventura California
    edited October 2003
    Can you boot the system into safe mode?

    1. Try booting the system into safe mode.
    1a. If you can get into safe mode uninstall the old card from device manager and remove the drivers for the previous card.
    2. If that wont happen clear your cmos and run a repair on the os installation.
    3. If none of that works.. RMA the card..

    Goodluck... and Welcome to Short media.. Have you ever thought about folding..???

    Gobbles
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited October 2003
    I've had similar problems before. It's likely simply a bad video driver, and it most likely will NOT boot into safe mode (mine didnt'). You'll probably just have to do a repair install of windows (which I don't recommend) or a clean install (which is preferable)
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited October 2003
    A little redundant guys? :D
  • BaLLeRBaLLeR Boca Raton, Florida
    edited November 2003
    sry guys, i havent had the chance to get on lately. What i have tryed to do is flash the bios of the vid card through dos but that doesnt work. the previous vid card that was on the comp before was a nVidia TNT2 m64 w/ 32 mb of sdram, and i didnt remove the drivers from that older one before i put the new one in. and yes i can go into safe mode only when i have it in VGA mode. thx alot for support guys
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited November 2003
    Why are you flashing your video bios? There's no reason to do that that I can see...
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Geeky1 had this to say
    Why are you flashing your video bios? There's no reason to do that that I can see...

    Hard set clock and memory speeds is the only real reason (so it works all the time, not just after an OCing program has been loaded).

    NS
  • BaLLeRBaLLeR Boca Raton, Florida
    edited November 2003
    thats what the person i bought it from ebay told me to do... he said that the bios might have got "Zaped" when they were shipping it here. Btw, the comp i am running this on is a P3 1.0ghz 512 mb sdram Asus m/b with a via chipset at fsb of 133mhz (i forgot the name of the mother bored it self :/ ) and the previous vid card was a nVidia TNT2 m64 w/ 32 mb of sdram. thx againe
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    I think your old drivers, among other things, have the wrong directx for this card.

    You never said if you could boot into safe mode, so here is how to try:

    1. As soon as computer makes the white writing on black disappear, tap the F8 key once every 2-3 seconds until you get a boot menu that has safe mode as an option.

    2. Use arrow keys on keyboard to move down to safe mode with networking (or just safe mode), try that.

    3. Remove video drivers if can do that, or reboot and try this--
    in XP, it is possible to have XP revert to the predriver install, and this will probably lose you some things but can also get you back to a situation where the nVidia drivers are not active. What you do is as in 1, then choose Last Know Good Configuration instead of Safe Mode (yes, this carried over from 2000 and is still available).

    IF that does nto work, I woudl stick the old video card in, then remove the drivers with it in, reboot once to make sure uninstall took and do NOT let it run the new hardware thing on reboot of XP, then if basicly normal video, shut down computer.

    THEN pull old video card, let XP come up if it can using new video card. If STILL no boot, it could be RAM onb card or BIOS got totally zapped on card and then it DOES need to be RMA'd for sure along with a note explaining why you think it will not work at all and what you did to isolate it down to the card itself.

    John.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    What exactly do you mean "Wrong DirectX"?

    NS
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited November 2003
    Don't flash the BIOS yet. If you do, and it's done wrong, you'll probably kill the card. Back up your documents, and do a clean install of windows with the latest version of nVidia's drivers, available from www.nvidia.com

    I'll bet that will fix your problem.
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited November 2003
    It sounds like the motherboard is either an Asus P3V4X or an Asus CUV4X, depending on whether the CPU is Socket 370 or Slot 1. Chipset is the VIA Apollo Pro 133A.

    If you have flashed the BIOS with an incorrect version from another card, you could have actually damaged the card.

    I just thought of something that may pertain here.

    When my main-rig was an Asus P3V4X and P3-550E Slot 1 system, I attempted to install an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro (AGP8x) into it. The problem was that it could not run in Windows XP at all, not AGP 8x, 4x, 2x or 1x or any driver revision would work. There may be a compatability problem with video cards that support AGP8x and the Via Apollo Pro 133A chipset. The card worked fine in other systems (i820-based and i440BX-based).

    Do you have a friend that you could borrow an AGP 4x card off of (preferrably an NVidia card) or a spare one lying around? I'd suggest the TNT2 M64, but it's only AGP2x. How about testing the card in another system? If the GeForce 4 MX works in another system, it could be your motherboard giving you issues, or a software problem. The only way you will really know is if you do a format and reinstall.

    If the problem doesn't go away after that, I'd say that the card is incompatable with the motherboard and you're S.O.L. on this one.
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited November 2003
    NightShade737 had this to say
    What exactly do you mean "Wrong DirectX"?

    NS

    I concur. What exactly do you mean by wrong DirectX version? Every DirectX package since DX3 is backwards compatable all the way back to DX3, no matter what driver is installed or device is installed.

    I've got an old NVidia Riva 128ZX installed in an old 440LX P2 Klamath system running on DirectX 9.1 Beta 1 SDK with Windows NT 5 Workstation Beta 1877. It works fine, as the drivers installed support the device and the DX version, as the DX version is 100% backwards compatable with DX3 extensions.

    You can't have the "wrong DirectX" version for a card. It couldn't happen, as the GF4 MX this individual is having trouble with is an NV17-compatable part (DX7) and Windows XP, as a default, ships with DX8.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Yes, I concur with Wim. Every card I have had going from a Ati Rage Pro Turbo and Voodoo 3 to a Radeon 9700 Pro has worked fine with DX9. There really is no reason to use an older version of DirectX.

    NS
  • CreepCreep Hell Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Have you guys ever thought that he just got a bad card? Could be the reason why the guy was selling it on EBAY!
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Could have got damaged in Postage. My GeForce 3 I sold was perfect before I sent it, how it has huge green lines down the screen :(

    NS
  • BaLLeRBaLLeR Boca Raton, Florida
    edited November 2003
    well guys, all has failed, nothing is workin and im gettin to the conclusion that this video card is eather diffective or is damaged beyond repair. lol it was only $40 on eaby so i decided to get it, (anyways its not my comp or vid cards its my dads and it really needs a vid card). Thx alot for your help guys and support i really appreciate it
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Sorry to hear the about the failure. Ebay is OK; but recommend you purchase from our very own Deal Depot & Trading Post next time. We aren't infallible, and we don't always have the parts available that may be needed, but we care about each other.

    I hope you find what you need at an affordable price!

    Leo
  • BaLLeRBaLLeR Boca Raton, Florida
    edited November 2003
    ok ill try it out, thx againe :)
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